Convert Regions To Nests? Simples!!

Grazie wrote on 12/23/2021, 9:03 PM

(Apologies if this is somehow already available . . . )

In Project A (PA) I've got 6 Regions. I now wish to capitalize on the time and creative effort I've made in producing these 6 Regions and go ahead and automatically make/convert these 6 Regions to 6 external Veggies as Nests! Yes, I know I can go the long route:

Select Media in a Region in PA >> Make a Selection of Media >> Copy Selection >> Open a New Veg >> Insert a Track >> and Paste >> Name and Save in the same or an alternative Folder

But!!! Wouldn't it be astonishing, time-saving, reduce "mistakes", keeping the creative flow going if I could just do this:

Open Edit Details View > Right Click on Region > Create Nest - DONE!!

Many of us are utilizing Nesting more and more often these days, and daily recognize the valuable creative flow and plain management of assets and outcomes by utilizing Parents and Nests. As I said, if this is already available, I'm willing to learn.

So, Convert Regions to Nests or CRN!

Comments

Grazie wrote on 12/23/2021, 9:49 PM

useful suggestion 😊👍

@lan-mLMC - Thanks! Well, I think so, but only if it is then converted to a CRN Utility/Script. I want this badly.

 

Grazie wrote on 12/23/2021, 9:52 PM

@lan-mLMC - @wwaag I just splashed Wayne in the Otter Pool!

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john_dennis wrote on 12/23/2021, 11:27 PM

"I agree that would be slick though I'm unlikely to ever use it since my brain is wired backward." said the Nesting King.

3POINT wrote on 12/23/2021, 11:28 PM

@Grazie I'm not sure if I understand you're proposal, but instead of making a region you can select the timeline media that you want to be nested instead and use the nesting tools to create/save/open/edit nests.

Grazie wrote on 12/24/2021, 12:23 AM

@Grazie I'm not sure if I understand you're proposal, but . . .

@3POINT - Well, I believe you do!! Except for . . .

instead of making a region you can select the timeline media that you want to be nested instead and use the nesting tools to create/save/open/edit nests.

@3POINT - You see, I lay ALL my Captured Media out on the T/L. I then Select/Grade my Stuff, Days/Weeks, etc, garner ideas within Regions, and make a Primary CUT. For me it's my way of keeping the Creative Narrative relevant, urgent, focussed, and intense - well I think so. That's me. Your offer has to have me make an EXACT Selection, where already I've got a baked-in Selection, my Region/s done. This also takes into account any "other" audio I could quite easily miss during selection. Do you see?

@3POINT - That's a great tool! Yes, it is. It does almost everything I want. But for the Filename-ing. I want my Region name/s preserved within the Named Nest as part of that Nest. I know where I am then.

So, is there a Make a Selection and use the Region Name? Script? I like the Keystrokes for the Nest Tool, maybe I could include these as part of a Contour Shuttle Pro2 Macro? - Oooo.... that'd be really neat! 😎

 

Grazie wrote on 12/24/2021, 12:25 AM

"I agree that would be slick though I'm unlikely to ever use it since my brain is wired backward." said the Nesting King.


@john_dennis - And also, in the tradition of ALL Good Christmas Pantomimes: "Oh no it isn't!"

3POINT wrote on 12/24/2021, 12:59 AM

@Grazie I probably never understand you're way of editing.😁 I sometimes use nesting to combine several standalone nests into one large main project. Never start a main project and divide this into nests. The nesting tools in the timeline just help to simplify a main project while it becomes complicated during editing. Selection the events or grouping events on the timeline for nesting has the advantage that events can be excluded, which is not possible when creating a nest from a timeline selection.

What Filename-ing concerns, you just name your nest while creating. That nestname shows up in the nested event in the main project, no need to have a named region.

Also take in account that nesting, whilst it's a great tool, always slows down the preview and rendering experience. That's the reason I use nesting rarely.

Grazie wrote on 12/24/2021, 1:30 AM

@Grazie I probably never understand you're way of editing.😁

@3POINT - And you think I do? Seriously, I’ve developed this way of sculpting, whittling and bashing the Media over twenty years of mix n match. It’s not for everybody, but I’ve found the Zen type plain sheet of paper that VP provides me with is always exciting and truly a non linear, type of thinking too, which in turn, allows me to try all types of narrative approaches to my stuff.

I sometimes use nesting to combine several standalone nests into one large main project. Never start a main project and divide this into nests.

@3POINT - Well, what you call a Main Project is made up of ALL my stuff and from here I extract what the hell I’m trying to put across. Viewing and reviewing. It’s within this process I discover just what the hell I’m doing. Look, I’ve had one particular client who’d openly didn’t know what he wanted, but my style was what he liked. It was then that it would be he who’d edit HIS words so I could then move on. It was a great learning experience, for us both. It was VegasPro that allowed us to be enormously flexible.

The nesting tools in the timeline just help to simplify a main project while it becomes complicated during editing. Selection the events or grouping events on the timeline for nesting has the advantage that events can be excluded, which is not possible when creating a nest from a timeline selection.

@3POINT - Yeah, I suppose that’s more along my lines too.

What Filename-ing concerns, you just name your nest while creating. That nestname shows up in the nested event in the main project, no need to have a named region.

@3POINT - Well, on the contrary for me it would be good so I could,wrangle in more of my outlandish contrivances.

Also take in account that nesting, whilst it's a great tool, always slows down the preview and rendering experience. That's the reason I use nesting rarely.

@3POINT - Valid points all. But until I get more and more of this Nesting, under my belt, I’ll make a note of your advice. However, now I have this MONSTA! PC and Wayne’s excellent Preview scripts AND the improvements to SHIFT+B and SHIFT+M, the story lines do flow nicely.

@3POINT - As always, thank you. Many ways to skin this particular feline!

walter-i. wrote on 12/24/2021, 3:53 AM

It is sooo a pleasure to listen to you both!
The chaotic creative and the stringent logician - just beautiful!

Nevertheless - Merry Christmas!

PS: and not to forget - the objection of John - the down-to-earth realist

Grazie wrote on 12/24/2021, 4:23 AM

@walter-i. - Would you say J S Bach was a chaotic creative or a stringent logician? Or, heaven to Betsy, could be both?

"The important thing is to not stop questioning. Curiosity has its own reason for existing." Einstein

Constant questioning is an easy way to make curiosity a habit. One way to practice this is to consider the subject from an alternate viewpoint: a 5 year old, a scientist, a pilot, a dancer. These perspectives can help keep your curiosity piqued.

@walter-i. The "pleasure" is all mine - dear boy. 😉

walter-i. wrote on 12/24/2021, 4:35 AM

@Grazie

100% Agree - just wanted to add some lighten up to this beautiful creative process!
I'm sure you're familiar with Walt Disney's approach of taking 3 points of view when developing new ideas:
The visionary, the critic and the realist.
And he was overly successful at it.

So please:
Continue in the process - please don't let me stop you.

Grazie wrote on 12/24/2021, 7:06 AM

@walter-i. 🙏

diverG wrote on 12/25/2021, 8:46 AM

You have done the hard work in creating specific regions. Can you not open 6 instances of Vegas. Copy Region 1 to new instance, name & close. Repeat for next 5 regions. Open new Vegas & added the 'region' veg files to create the 'main" nested veg file. I've used this process over 3 regions in the past when I felt the original project was unwieldy. Maybe I have misunderstood your objective.

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jetdv wrote on 12/25/2021, 8:55 AM

You have done the hard work in creating specific regions. Can you not open 6 instances of Vegas. Copy Region 1 to new instance, name & close. Repeat for next 5 regions. Open new Vegas & added the 'region' veg files to create the 'main" nested veg file. I've used this process over 3 regions in the past when I felt the original project was unwieldy. Maybe I have misunderstood your objective.

@diverG I think I'd do it a different way. Just open the project 6 times. Delete all but one region from each one, Move the events to the front of the timeline, and then save them all under different names. No need to copy/paste and track level effects/changes would also be kept.

@Grazie, yes this could be done via script. Not sure how long it would take to create it, though.

diverG wrote on 12/25/2021, 9:18 AM

@jetdv

Agreed.

Your method is more logical. Something we only do once. Thereafter plan your project as nested .veg.

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Grazie wrote on 12/25/2021, 10:09 AM

@Grazie, yes this could be done via script. Not sure how long it would take to create it, though.

@jetdv - I live in hope. The whole purpose of my post is not to open six veggies, and then copy ( make a mistake!) and so on… Logic has it purpose. I understand. What I want is something that is above this.

jetdv wrote on 12/25/2021, 10:22 AM

@Grazie, I fully understand.

Grazie wrote on 12/25/2021, 10:36 AM

@Grazie, I fully understand.

@jetdv - 🙏

wwaag wrote on 12/30/2021, 6:50 PM

Just added a new script to the Happy Otter Free Tools Library which enables the creation of projects from regions. Here's the dialog

and a link to the Free Tools thread where a demo can be found. https://www.vegascreativesoftware.info/us/forum/happyotterscripts-free-tools--118349/?page=4#ca832589

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Grazie wrote on 12/30/2021, 11:02 PM

@wwaag - You’ve gone and done it again! Thank you, and, I can announce it is Grazie-Proof!

What Wayne continues to do is to “reach-out” to a non-IT person, me, and firstly get a handle on my wishes, no mean task in itself, he’s a very patient guy, and then work with me to produce a Script that “gets me”, ultimately, to my Video Narrative. I’m sure this Regions to Project Script will receive further tweaks as Users incorporate it into their own work-flows. Essentially I’m using it to make my Nests, from Story Telling Regions, for input into my Final Assemblage veggies.

Reyfox wrote on 12/31/2021, 6:40 AM

@wwaag how to do you add that script to the OtterInfoBar?

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