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j-v wrote on 3/9/2020, 11:57 AM

I can only come up with probably not definitive but only my personal answer that CUDA rendering by GPU is ancient and it was for me very faulty.
Today the newer Magix codecs render with help of decoding and encoding with GPU help especially with NVDEC resp. NVENC and it works pretty good and fast with GPU besides the CPU.

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vegaseditor wrote on 3/9/2020, 12:08 PM

J-V, can you direct me to a specific link/location/YouTube video which describes your assessment of your answer? Thanks for chiming in on my query.

j-v wrote on 3/9/2020, 12:21 PM

No, I have only my own proof for my experiences and how I do that by using Vegas Pro 17 rendering with Magix AVC or HEVC codecs in all sorts of MP4 export


Rendering with the NVENC option goes upto 6 times faster than the common Mainconcept codec on my desktop from signature.
 

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fr0sty wrote on 3/9/2020, 9:41 PM

These days, gpu rendering is done by dedicated hardware on the gpu that does nothing but encode. The cuda/compute cores are used for effects acceleration on the timeline. As for which is better, that's debatable.

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Howard-Vigorita wrote on 3/10/2020, 12:34 PM

@vegaseditor your question really relates to Nvidia vrs AMD because Nvidia calls its graphics cores Cuda processors while AMD calls its stream processors. But Nvidia and AMD architectures are so different. So Cuda and Stream processor counts do not compare 1 for 1. Also the depth of open-source support (AMD tends to be open while Nvidia tends to license). As well as Vegas versions which are optimized differently. Suggest you just go by comparing benchmarks, reviews, and/or user testimonials of the best cards you can afford.

vegaseditor wrote on 3/10/2020, 1:15 PM

Howard, thank you for your input. But....."yes," I was comparing based on equivalents. Your mentioning to go by what's already published still leaves me (and others) still questioning which is more efficient/faster. If you can direct me to a link in which someone has published a side-by-side of comparable Nvidia vs AMD GPU's which would show direct comparisons, then you will have done what no one, so far, has been able to post.

Chief24 wrote on 3/10/2020, 3:04 PM

Try these articles:

Techgage

Puget Systems #1

Puget Systems #2

If none of the above satisfy you, and you can't find within these "Forum Halls of Wisdom" from all of the contributing members, then time to do your own testing.

Oh, and here is some Bench-marking results from the actual members in this forum, thanks to @JN- for keeping it "fresh & updated" :).

Self Build: #1 MSI TRX40 Pro Wi-Fi w/3960X (be Quiet! Dark Rock Pro TR4) @ stock; 128GB Team Group 3200 MHz; OS/Apps - WDSN850X PCI-e 4.0x4 4TB, Documents/Extras - WDSN850X PCI-e 4.0x4 4TB; XFX AMD Radeon 7900XTX (24.12.1); Samsung 32 Inch UHD 3840x2160; Windows 11 Pro 64-Bit (24H2 26100.2894); (2) Inland Performance 2TB/(2) PNY 3040 4TB PCI-e on Asus Quad M.2x16; (2) WD RED 4TB; ProGrade USB CFExpress/SD card Reader; LG 16X Blu-Ray Burner; 32 inch Samsung UHD 3840x2160.

VEGAS Pro 20 Edit (411); VEGAS Pro 21 Suite (315); VEGAS Pro 22 Suite (239) & HOS (Happy Otter Scripts); DVD Architect 7.0 (100);

Sound Forge Audio Studio 15; ACID Music Studio 11; SonicFire Pro 6.6.9 (with Vegas Pro/Movie Studio Plug-in); DaVinci Resolve (Free) 19.1.3

#2: Gigabyte TRX50 Aero D w/7960x (Noctua NH-U14S TR5-SP6) @ stock; 128GB Kingston Fury Beast RDIMM @4800 MHz; OS/Apps - Seagate Firecuda 540 2TB PCI-e 5.0x4; Documents/Extras/Source/Transcodes - 4TB WDSN850X PCI-e 4.0x4; 4TB Inland Performance PCI-e 3.0x4; 2TB Inland Performance PCI-e 4.0x4; BlackMagic PCI-e Decklink 4K Mini-Recorder; ProGrade USB SD & Micro SD card readers; LG 32 Inch UHD 3840.x2160: PowerColor Hellhound RX Radeon 7900XT (24.12.1); Windows 11 Pro 64-Bit (24H2 26100.2894)

VEGAS Pro 20 Edit (411); VEGAS Pro 21 Suite (315); VEGAS Pro 22 Suite (239) & HOS; DVD Architect 7.0 (100); Sound Forge Audo Studio 15; Acid Music Studio 11

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Howard-Vigorita wrote on 3/11/2020, 9:47 AM

I would just add to the links @Chief24 posted above Bench-marking results I've obtained on my own systems which are mostly AMD.

vegaseditor wrote on 3/11/2020, 12:52 PM

Chief24 & Howard, thank you both for your input. This data has given me some new info to consider when deciding on what brand/version to purchase. I know these results are a little outdated, but it's still a great guide.