Hello,

Yes, I rendered video according youtube uploading encoding settings, but i checked recently that, because of my new channel, im getting bad codec for video, so i think, we can close this question.

but i checked recently that, because of my new channel, im getting bad codec for video, so i think, we can close this question.

That's right, unfortunately that's the answer, not a lot more to say, 1080P VP9 is about the same quality as 1080P AVC now, Youtube reduced the quality of VP9, so the old trick of uploading in 4K or 1440P for a high quality VP9 1080P no longer works. You need to have a popular channel in terms of views, that will initiate high quality 1080P.

Some hints that point to you being 'on the list' are AV1 encodes, and fast re-encodes of live streams. currently for you it will take hours to most of a day for a re-encode to take place. I have wondered if instead of increasing detail in a video for best quality you reduce detail where it doesn't matter especially around the borders may help IF a given amount of bandwidth is allowed, but IF Youtube are encoding based on bitrate and quality that may not help.

I guess a video as clean as possible, noise reduction on noisy video, don't add film grain, vignettes combined with softness towards edges, don't want your video really dark, that will fall apart more readily then well exposed, etc, etc. I haven't done any of these experiments so if you find people that have done make sure to come back to thread and update.

I think I'm still getting high quality vp9 on my YouTube personal account with only a few hundred subscribers. Stats for nerds looks like this on a single png slide-show audio track AI Upscaled to 4k hevc w/vp22 and uploaded a few days ago:

Sorry if the stats are difficult to read... just figured out how to copy as text:

Video ID / sCPN        U9IehEaqpaM / QKJT 6KMP 4SJB RCCT 5RVG
Viewport / Frames    953x536*2.50 / -
Current / Optimal Res    3840x2160@30 / 3840x2160@30
Volume / Normalized    100% / 54% (content loudness 5.4dB)
Codecs            vp09.00.51.08.01.01.01.01.00 (313) / opus (251)
Color            bt709 / bt709
Connection Speed    36126 Kbps
Network Activity    0 KB
Buffer Health        20.00 s
Mystery Text        SABR, s:44c t:0.00 b:0.000-20.001 P
Date            Sun Sep 01 2024 12:19:30 GMT-0400 (Eastern Daylight Time)

Yesterday, I uploaded a video for review by a small group of people. It's currently "unlisted" with <10 views and I'm being offered AVC when I take the link anonymously.

Viewport / Frames 2560x1440 / 513 dropped of 19982
Current / Optimal Res 1920x1080@60 / 1920x1080@60
Volume / Normalized 100% / 100% (content loudness -1.1dB)
Codecs avc1.64002a (299) / opus (251)
Connection Speed 55599 Kbps
Network Activity 0 KB
Buffer Health 29.37 s
Mystery Text SABR, s:8 t:782.56 b:554.654-811.744 pbs:648

Yesterday, I uploaded a video for review by a small group of people.

Volume / Normalized 100% / 100% (content loudness -1.1dB)

Heh. OT, but nice job on the audio. It's probably my OCD, but there is nothing worse than YouTube reprocessing the audio.

I usually upload in Cineform, which allows me to duplicate my camera bit rates, and YouTube ingests it just fine, immediately going to vp09. No such luck with ProRes.

I'll get my coat....

@ChrisD

Loudness Log for the uploaded file:

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Results:

Mom. (max):      -2.32 (LUFS) at 00:29:58.485
Short (max):      -6.25 (LUFS) at 00:29:59.680
Integrated:     -15.10 (LUFS)

I wanted to close this question, but recently, I saw this codec in the video "(avc1.64002a (299) / opus (251)" how can I also put a video on render with this codec on YouTube? the author of the video also uses vegas pro. I believe that this codec is better than vp09

I think I'm still getting high quality vp9 on my YouTube personal account with only a few hundred subscribers. Stats for nerds looks like this on a single png slide-show audio track AI Upscaled to 4k hevc w/vp22 and uploaded a few days ago:

@Howard-Vigorita Is that your S23Ultra video that you shared on this forum, have to admit it did look good, but VP9 used to ALWAYS be obviously higher quality if you download the AVC and VP9 version are you able to see a difference?

@mrflenty avc1 is how YT describe AVC or H.264, it used to be the bad codec, and I don't believe it got any better, but rather VP9 got worse for 1080P for low view/sub channels. Here's an example. watch from about 1minute onwards at 1080P, marvel at how bad the quality is, then look at 4K version, which doesn't look great either but it's much better than the 1080P version. Never used to see that with VP9, all VP9 resolutions were good quality for everyone

Viewport / Frames 1280x720*1.50 / 0 dropped of 1161
Current / Optimal Res 3840x2160@30 / 3840x2160@30
Volume / Normalized 65% / DRC (content loudness -14.6dB)
Codecs vp09.00.51.08.01.01.01.01.00 (313) / opus (251)
Color bt709 / bt709
Connection Speed 129100 Kbps
Network Activity 0 KB
Buffer Health 21.57 s
Mystery Text SABR, s:8 t:38.57 b:0.000-60.060 L pbs:1854
Date

@john_dennis @Howard-Vigorita @ChrisD

Hi, this is one of my YT vids, don'y know much about some of this, have you any thoughts?

(YT member since 2012, 27.9K subscribers)

I use these settings for Vegas for 4K YouTube uploads and get VP09 encoding after it is processed in 4K. It encodes pretty fast on YouTube (in about 10 minutes).

@Former user so ,is it possible to get better quality in 1080p on new channel? For example, I'm recording Minecraft, and recording in Full HD 1080p, so, is there any methods to get better codec or just use other video platforms?

VP9 probably isn't worse than H.264, it's just not noticeably better at 1080P, You may as well upload at 4K, even if your media is 1080P, so people with TV's and 4K monitors see the 4K VP9 version and will see better quality, but your 1080P VP9 most likely will look worse, although traditional Minecraft would probably look better than other material

This is good, but i just needed to upload minecraft videos in 1080p quality without 2k, 4k and other, just in full hd with vp09, I also recently saw that i can set 2048 to 1152 and then the video will be full HD in the VP09 codec

Hi, this is one of my YT vids, don'y know much about some of this, have you any thoughts?

@Gid I am facinated with audio, though my understanding of DRC is limited. I am guessing it is dynamic range compression, compensating for wide fluctuations in loudness? Probably not unusual for certain content.

Here's one of mine (GoPro vlog). Yes 4K, so codec-wise it's irrelevant.

Current / Optimal Res 3840x2160@30 / 3840x2160@30
Volume / Normalized 100% / 100% (content loudness -0.6dB)
Codecs vp09.00.51.08.01.01.01.01.00 (313) / opus (251)
Color bt709 / bt709

That's with a touch of Wave Hammer compression, and volume capped at -6db for some headroom.

In Vegas I target around -14.2db LUFS Integrated.

I also use mLoudnessAnalyzer for real-time measurement, and shoot for zero or a few tenths under.

also, maybe my obs settings not good for full hd? because im using interval keyframes: 0s, and b-frames: 0s. Is someone knows how many should i set for full hd?

Viewport / Frames 1280x720*1.50 / 0 dropped of 1161
Current / Optimal Res 3840x2160@30 / 3840x2160@30
Volume / Normalized 65% / DRC (content loudness -14.6dB)
Codecs vp09.00.51.08.01.01.01.01.00 (313) / opus (251)
Color bt709 / bt709
Connection Speed 129100 Kbps
Network Activity 0 KB
Buffer Health 21.57 s
Mystery Text SABR, s:8 t:38.57 b:0.000-60.060 L pbs:1854
Date

Hi, this is one of my YT vids, don'y know much about some of this, have you any thoughts?

(YT member since 2012, 27.9K subscribers)

@Gid You are getting AV1 encodes at 1080P so that's a good sign you get high quality VP9 at 1080P

@ChrisD Gid's audio levels are too loud, he would not have normalised them for YouTube so YT reduced the volume of his entire video.

@mrflenty

It pains me to tell you that the 10,000 pound elephant in the room is not your excellent encoding settings in either OBS or Vegas, but in the quality ceiling that is imposed by Youtube's upload servers, where the delivery bitrate, and thus motion and detail quality, is chopped off in favor of streaming playability. Unfortunately, the tail can't wag the big dog.

The best alternative I can suggest is Vimeo, with better reproduction, the collateral possibly being a smaller viewing audience.

@Gid You are getting AV1 encodes at 1080P so that's a good sign you get high quality VP9 at 1080P

@Former user Thanks, why does your image show the av01 & mine says vp09 in UHD & 1080p? Or is this a dumb question & I'm missing something 🤦‍♂️🙃😂

Audio - I rarely travel beyond the volume button, my system & amps are in a constant state so when I make my videos I can tell if they're loud enough, 🙉😂 I've asked my subs but they say the sound is fine, I guess that is YT fixing it for me. @john_dennis Helped me reduce noise in some of my machining vids but this one is a quite vid so no tweaking of volume etc. 🤷‍♂️,

One of my noisier vids,

I wanted to close this question, but recently, I saw this codec in the video "(avc1.64002a (299) / opus (251)" how can I also put a video on render with this codec on YouTube? the author of the video also uses vegas pro. I believe that this codec is better than vp09

You are confusing a video codec with an audio codec.

The download from Youtube with the VP9 video codec and Opus audio codec is slightly better than downloading the MP4 video codec and AAC audio codec. Fortunately, one is faced with only two choices natively that I know of.

Is that your S23Ultra video that you shared on this forum, have to admit it did look good, but VP9 used to ALWAYS be obviously higher quality if you download the AVC and VP9 version are you able to see a difference?

@Former user No. The next day I used a similar approach on a png I mashed together from a couple of jpegs to front a live 2002 performance. Vp22 did a nice job on a vintage 1969 b&w photo of Jack Bruce... used AI Colorize, Upscale, and Sharpen on that simple little thing. The better vp9/opus encoding by YouTube seems to have kept them from wrecking the audio which I was trying to match to a 2014 studio recording for a/b comparison.

I wanted to close this question, but recently, I saw this codec in the video "(avc1.64002a (299) / opus (251)" how can I also put a video on render with this codec on YouTube? the author of the video also uses vegas pro. I believe that this codec is better than vp09

You are confusing a video codec with an audio codec.

The download from Youtube with the VP9 video codec and Opus audio codec is slightly better than downloading the MP4 video codec and AAC audio codec. Fortunately, one is faced with only two choices natively that I know of.

So, is it possible to render video in full hd vp09 and opus audio codec, or did I misunderstand your question?