i know about PNG sequence export thing.
but can we export in video format too with transparent background?
as i tried the MOV file export with including alpha ProRes template
but it is exporting too big file
@iEmby These render with an alpha channel, (there might be others) I know nothing of the Quicktime 7 & MagicYUV is paid for but I just use the native ProRes.
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Yep big files, MagicYUV creates an AVI that is just as big as ProRes if not bigger (I'll test that again), with Voukoder I had problems with it rendering with an alpha but that was prob user error & that was a long time ago, I gave up on that & just stuck with ProRes.
@iEmby said: "alpha ProRes template but it is exporting too big file"
There's a hardware solution to that problem.
@Former user
i don't have those renderer in my VEGAS.
@iEmby A simple trial, no effects or animation. MagicYUV was lightning fast compared to the others but you can see the size of the file.
All load into Vegas no prob, Quicktime & Voukoder needed the alpha changing in Properties once dragged into Vegas but that was again prob user render error.
Voukoder https://www.voukoder.org/forum/thread/783-downloads-instructions/
MagicYUV https://www.magicyuv.com/
ProRes should be in your list & I don't know about Quicktime, I have Quicktime installed on my PC but whether its a native Vegas option or because I have Quicktime installed I don't know.
There's an option in Preferences
@iEmby said: "alpha ProRes template but it is exporting too big file"
There's a hardware solution to that problem.
how will that help? sir?
😂 I think he's just saying don't worry about the file size & get a bigger hardrive
You can use uncompressed AVI with alpha channel in any version of Vegas. You can minimize the file size if the animation doesn't traverse the whole screen by rendering to a pixel dimension that just covers the animation.
Apple ProRes seems to be the only workable option, apart from QuickTime which has been deprecated for some time. Could it be that files are large because transparency is not possible in an efficient high compression codec.
I find it odd that we are so dependent on Apple. I asked MS Copilot "Why are there no windows video encoding format which supports an alpha channel?"
Part of it's reply: " The absence of native Windows video encoding formats that directly support an alpha channel (transparency) is indeed a limitation. However, there are some workarounds and alternative approaches:
Existing Formats with Alpha Channels:
While Windows does not have a built-in format specifically designed for alpha channels, you can use existing formats that support transparency. For example:
Its diappointing that AV1 doesnt (yet?) support alpha channel and I see no way to use H.265 or FFV1 in Vegas so thank you Apple!
Voukoder, Apple ProRes, MagicYUV
The fastest Voukoder, even with alpha, even without.
i know about PNG sequence export thing.
but can we export in video format too with transparent background?
as i tried the MOV file export with including alpha ProRes template
but it is exporting too big file
When you created the logo animation entirely in Vegas, instead of rendering to a huge video format with alpha channel for using the animation in another Vegas project, just NEST that logo animation VEG into another Vegas project. Saves the money to buy a new HD.
i know about PNG sequence export thing.
but can we export in video format too with transparent background?
as i tried the MOV file export with including alpha ProRes template
but it is exporting too big fileWhen you created the logo animation entirely in Vegas, instead of rendering to a huge video format with alpha channel for using the animation in another Vegas project, just NEST that logo animation VEG into another Vegas project. Saves the money to buy a new HD.
i know these methods but i need to send a logo animation to one of my client.
he can't use Nest files. so need something like alpha channel.
i know these methods but i need to send a logo animation to one of my client.
he can't use Nest files. so need something like alpha channel.
When you have to send the logo animation, to be used in another NLE, than probably a zipped file with the png image sequence is the easiest solution. Otherwise you have to install Quicktime to get a video sequence with alpha channel at normal/usable size.
Quicktime Animation is by far the smallest file size of all transparent video file types with alpha.
Created in Vegas with Quicktime
General Complete name : Animate This! QT Animation.mov Format : MPEG-4 Format profile : QuickTime Codec ID : qt 2005.03 (qt ) File size : 18.7 MiB Duration : 10 s 10 ms Overall bit rate : 15.7 Mb/s Frame rate : 29.970 FPS Performer : John Dennis Composer : John Dennis Encoded date : 2024-05-02 06:21:30 UTC Tagged date : 2024-05-02 06:21:30 UTC Writing library : Apple QuickTime Copyright : 2024 Video ID : 2 Format : RLE Format/Info : Run-length encoding Codec ID : rle Duration : 10 s 10 ms Bit rate : 14.2 Mb/s Width : 3 840 pixels Height : 2 160 pixels Display aspect ratio : 16:9 Frame rate mode : Constant Frame rate : 29.970 (30000/1001) FPS Color space : RGBA Bit depth : 8 bits Bits/(Pixel*Frame) : 0.057 Stream size : 16.9 MiB (90%) Language : English Encoded date : 2024-05-02 06:21:23 UTC Tagged date : 2024-05-02 06:21:30 UTC Audio ID : 1 Format : PCM Format settings : Little / Signed Codec ID : sowt Duration : 10 s 10 ms Bit rate mode : Constant Bit rate : 1 536 kb/s Channel(s) : 2 channels Channel layout : L R Sampling rate : 48.0 kHz Bit depth : 16 bits Stream size : 1.83 MiB (10%) Language : English Encoded date : 2024-05-02 06:21:23 UTC Tagged date : 2024-05-02 06:21:30 UTC
Created in Shutter Encoder from Uncompressed AVI with Alpha
General Complete name : Animate This! QT Animation by Shutter Encoder from Video for Windows.mov Format : MPEG-4 Format profile : QuickTime Codec ID : qt 0000.02 (qt ) File size : 22.4 MiB Duration : 10 s 10 ms Overall bit rate : 18.7 Mb/s Frame rate : 29.970 FPS Encoded date : 2024-05-02 05:28:46 UTC Tagged date : 2024-05-02 05:28:46 UTC Writing application : Lavf60.20.100 Copyright : 2024 Video ID : 1 Format : RLE Format/Info : Run-length encoding Codec ID : rle Duration : 10 s 10 ms Bit rate : 17.2 Mb/s Width : 3 840 pixels Height : 2 160 pixels Display aspect ratio : 16:9 Frame rate mode : Constant Frame rate : 29.970 (30000/1001) FPS Color space : RGBA Bit depth : 8 bits Scan type : Progressive Bits/(Pixel*Frame) : 0.069 Stream size : 20.5 MiB (92%) Encoded date : 2024-05-02 05:28:46 UTC Tagged date : 2024-05-02 05:28:46 UTC Audio ID : 2 Format : PCM Format settings : Little / Signed Codec ID : sowt Duration : 10 s 10 ms Bit rate mode : Constant Bit rate : 1 536 kb/s Channel(s) : 2 channels Channel layout : L R Sampling rate : 48.0 kHz Bit depth : 16 bits Stream size : 1.83 MiB (8%) Default : Yes Alternate group : 1 Encoded date : 2024-05-02 05:28:46 UTC Tagged date : 2024-05-02 05:28:46 UTC
If you don't want to load Quicktime in Vegas Pro, you could:
Quicktime Animation is by far the smallest file size of all transparent video file types with alpha...
Can you show your quicktime encoding settings?
Thanks.
Quicktime Animation is by far the smallest file size of all transparent video file types with alpha...
Can you show your quicktime encoding settings?
Thanks.
I use always these settings:
Voukoder, Apple ProRes, MagicYUV
The fastest Voukoder, even with alpha, even without.
i install Voukoder i dont see renderer in my VEGAS after installing it,
this is the software what i got
Have you installed the Voukoder connector for your Vegas Pro version as well? - https://www.voukoder.org/forum/thread/783-downloads-instructions/
i installed it succefully but when i test render
https://www.swisstransfer.com/d/80359423-795e-4502-a56d-eb1984a25e8b
these files it give as output which i cant import.
one of them file was showing .mp4 while rendering but after that it was avi. and i dont know avi in not importing in my vegas... guide me pls.
@iEmby I can't open your 2 files in Vegas either. I get the black circle with a line through it.
I can into MS2024 tho, is he meant to be walking slowly?
I don't have the Pro version, but this is what I used for the test I posted earlier.
I can into MS2024 tho, is he meant to be walking slowly?
yes it is a slowmotion video shot on samsung phone
https://www.swisstransfer.com/d/80359423-795e-4502-a56d-eb1984a25e8bthese files it give as output which i cant import.
one of them file was showing .mp4 while rendering but after that it was avi. and i dont know avi in not importing in my vegas... guide me pls.
Downloaded and MediaInfo-checked, Video AVC - Audio PCM.
Usually when video stream is AVC h.264 stream, that is also followed with Audio stream AAC compressed as well. Audio PCM is WAV uncompressed equal (so far I know), so probably why these didn't read well by VP21.
Also, usually the container for this AVC is MP4 besides of AVI.
OT: Resolve can't read the media as well.
Just tried the Boy Walk avi and it would not load in vp21 b208 or 300. MediaInfo says it's 4:2:0, not any kind of 4:4:4. Repackaged into a mov and Vegas recognizes it with it's pcm audio stream. But aspect ratio is all messed up in b300 unless I manually change it from square to 1.7778 in project properties. Looks fine in vp21 b208 but gives an edit-ability warning... inspection of the gop histogram indicates a single gop for the entire clip.