Dock it in the docking area.

I'd rather have it floating around the middle of the screen. On VP11 this seemed to be a remembered option but cant make it do so in 17

You need the preview window uncovered to see the results when making adjustments in the pan/crop window. For me this works best when pan/crop window is docked beside the preview window.

Best option would be when adjustments could be done directly in the preview window instead of a separate pan/crop tool window, like in my other NLE.

@djrikki2 Would setting a custom window layout work for what you need? Put your windows where you want them, go into View -> Window Layouts -> Save Layout As and choose a slot and give it a name.

It's known bug of VP17. Saving layout does not help.

Already reported and confirmed by Magix.

It's known bug of VP17. Saving layout does not help.

Already reported and confirmed by Magix.

Brilliant! now I know Im not going mad! Good work arounds in those threads too - thank you and to everyone else.

This is a very good forum for helpful folks :)

Rikki

It's known bug of VP17. Saving layout does not help.

Already reported and confirmed by Magix.

@fifonik @djrikki2 IMO saving a custom layout *does* help because when VP fails to restore the last layout or ganks it when you go into color grading, you can restore your layout with a keypress.

If you working with popup pan/crop/filter window (not docked one) and closing it when not needed, saving layout does not help.

When you restart VP and restore the layout, the size of opened pan/crop/filters windows is still small.

@fifonik That's not happening for me but perhaps you're not working in a multi-monitor configuration?

When I restore my layout, all my windows are where I put them and the size they were when I saved the layout

We are talking about different usage scenarios.

You suggested dock the window, keep it opened and save layout.

I'm (and OP) working with floating (not docked) window.

@fifonik You're confusing me with someone else. I never suggested using docked windows. All my layouts are floating as I'm running multi-window. Saving and restoring a layout works perfectly for me.

Integrating pan/crop window with OFX parameter window is a wrong design.

Pan/crop need big window (handy for pan/crop, drawing mask and so on).

OFX parameter need narrow-long window (almost VGEAS user's OFX parameter UI is narrow-long).

Therefore, VGEAS users have to change the window's size all the time when they switch between pan/crop and OFX parameter. This is a big time waste.

Saving layout resets the size of Pan/Crop window in my case without restart. Steps to re-produce:

- Open VP and add checkboard on timeline

- Open Pan/Crop window by clicking event's icon => window size is small

- Resize Pan/Crop window to required size

- Close Pan/Crop window

- Open Pan/Crop windows by clicking event's icon again => window is normal size

- Close Pan/Crop window

- View | Windows Layout | Save Layout As | specify name | OK

- Open Pan/Crop windows by clicking event's icon => window is small again

- Switch to another layout and then switch to last saved layout

- Open Pan/Crop windows by clicking event's icon => window is still small

- Resize Pan/Crop window to required size

- Close Pan/Crop window

- Open Pan/Crop windows by clicking event's icon again => window is normal size

- Close Pan/Crop window

- Restart VP

- Open Pan/Crop windows by clicking event's icon => window is still small

P.S. in the discussion that can be found from my first post it was already mentioned that the bug exist when window is closed. In known issues it is also mentioned as "[VP17+] If closed, the Video Event FX window last position & size are not remembered on exit.". In previous builds this works fine.