VEGAS Pro 17 Update 4 (Build 421) - General Discussion

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john_dennis wrote on 2/21/2020, 9:43 AM

@Former user

"Could you do a test to see if hardware decode reduces cpu and/or increases preview fps in comparison between hardware decode on and off?"

See other posts just after mine.

tripleflip18 wrote on 2/21/2020, 9:45 AM

anyone ever test QSV from latest intel cpu vs NVIDIA preview ? which one does better?

David-Jodon wrote on 2/21/2020, 1:15 PM

I tried to install & failed, as well. Then I attempted to direct download and that failed too. Let me know when you guys make an install program that works, please.

fr0sty wrote on 2/21/2020, 2:32 PM

It works for the rest of us... try to do a clean install. Completely uninstall Vegas (use a program like Revo Uninstall to make sure all traces of it are removed from the registry as well), and then try to install the latest version.

Systems:

Desktop

AMD Ryzen 7 1800x 8 core 16 thread at stock speed

64GB 3000mhz DDR4

Geforce RTX 3090

Windows 10

Laptop:

ASUS Zenbook Pro Duo 32GB (9980HK CPU, RTX 2060 GPU, dual 4K touch screens, main one OLED HDR)

Karsten-Semmer wrote on 2/21/2020, 2:54 PM

Thanks - but I was talking about the FX Panel Window´s size and position (it means the GUI Element) - so it must be a bug in the windows layout functionality.

Don't know if you can call it a bug.
The reason is a Windows DPI i.c.w. the Vegas Display High DPI scaling setting.
In my Dutch version that Windows setting looks like this.
Is it chequed you can see your "bug", uncheque it stays as you changed the window of Pan/Crop, FX , a.s.o.

 

check or uncheck does not have any effect on my system. But anyway this strange behaviour was introduced with Update 3 - with the first version and update 1 and 2 there was no issue. So I guess something broke it.

Robert Johnston wrote on 2/21/2020, 3:04 PM

Vegas White Balance FX: Amount of Correction is zero after using eyedropper to select white point. It doesn't matter what color I click on. There is no amount of correction. I have to move the Amount of Correction slider myself while watching RGB amounts of point in a third party utility.

Intel Core i7 10700K CPU @ 3.80GHz (to 4.65GHz), NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2060 SUPER 8GBytes. Memory 32 GBytes DDR4. Also Intel UHD Graphics 630. Mainboard: Dell Inc. PCI-Express 3.0 (8.0 GT/s) Comet Lake. Bench CPU Multi Thread: 5500.5 per CPU-Z.

Vegas Pro 21.0 (Build 108) with Mocha Vegas

Windows 11 not pro

fifonik wrote on 2/21/2020, 3:21 PM

@Karsten-Semmer have you sent bug report to Magix?

UPDATE: Reported on 22/02 (Ticket#2020022117006294) and got reply today (25/02):

I was able to reproduce the issue given the steps provided.  This issue is now escalated to development and QA to be resolved in a future application update

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NLE: Vegas Pro [Edit] 11, 12, 13, 15, 17, 18, 19, 22

Author of FFMetrics and FFBitrateViewer

monoparadox wrote on 2/21/2020, 3:29 PM

BUG REPORT

The Position and Size of the "Video Event FX" Panel WINDOW is not stored properly.

 

Possible workaround is setup your FX window the way you want it and save as a layout. I have a layout assigned just for compositing and FX application. Open your FX in that layout and it will go to a screen location and size as it was saved. Very handy.

-- tom

Radomir wrote on 2/21/2020, 4:11 PM

Crash after too quickly use "ctrl+z / undo" still exists.

fifonik wrote on 2/21/2020, 4:55 PM

Possible workaround is setup your FX window the way you want it and save as a layout.

@monoparadox This does not work for me: as soon as I save layout, the pan/crop windows size reset to default.

Camcorder: Panasonic X1500 + Panasonic X920 + GoPro Hero 11 Black

Desktop: MB: MSI B450M MORTAR TITANIUM, CPU: AMD Ryzen 5700X, RAM: G'Skill 32 GB DDR4@3200, Graphics card: MSI RX6600 8GB, SSD: Samsung 970 Evo+ 1TB (NVMe, OS), HDD WD 4TB, HDD Toshiba 4TB, OS: Windows 10 Pro 22H2

NLE: Vegas Pro [Edit] 11, 12, 13, 15, 17, 18, 19, 22

Author of FFMetrics and FFBitrateViewer

ALO wrote on 2/21/2020, 6:28 PM

NVENC Render broken. FX window size resets on startup. And what on Earth are you doing with that white balance plugin ???

David Johns wrote on 2/22/2020, 3:23 AM

David & Nick,

But in that case there is a bug because it sometimes works. The last time was just after I had written that story I tried it one more time and it worked. That was itt, never again, Any idea for a working workaround besides renaming the file? I'll try deleting it and rewriting on the spot and see how that goes. But thanks for the replies; it shows that you guys care.

This is just a guess based on my own test; the first time I did it, it appeared to work but I realised my default audio rendering template was set to use .wav and the source was .mp3 and even though I selected the existing filename when rendering, Vegas added the .wav as part of the name so it came out as “test.mp3.wav” which was not the same as the original file “test.mp3”. Thus it appeared to have worked but in fact had created a new file. Is there any chance that’s what you were seeing when it seemed to work?

David Johns wrote on 2/22/2020, 3:26 AM

Thanks to the developers for fixing the bug not saving the track audio plugins when archiving a project. At last I can archive safely and happily! Much appreciated.

Howard-Vigorita wrote on 2/23/2020, 6:06 PM

Currently on the road for another 2 months but I pulled this update down (install now option) on my Intel Hades Canyon NUC and went w/o incident and is stable. Tried out the new AMD decoding (the NUC has a mini 4gb/hbm2 version of the AMD Vega) and it seems slightly lower in performance compared to the Intel HD630 also onboard. When I get over my Home Again Blues, I'll give it a spin on my full-sized 9900k/Radeon VII system. Anyone know if Vegas17 is supporting h.265 decoding of Canon XF705 or Panasonic EVA1 footage yet?

Film_Digital wrote on 2/23/2020, 6:17 PM

Update to 421 just simply...fails. OK, fired up the direct download link. Wasn't really paying attention; after all, this is SOP right? Message requesting activation popped up. OK, must be the update triggering the usual. Activated just fine. Load up V17. Lo! Still at build 387 and wanting to update! Any further attempt ( and I made many ranging from another direct download to let the program do it) results in the message: "Vegas Pro 17 is already installed. If you want to reinstall the program, please uninstall the existing version before reinstalling." Not a fan of doing that as I assume I will crawl my way back to build whatever. Any suggestions greatly appreciated.

fr0sty wrote on 2/23/2020, 6:20 PM

Uninstall the previous build (you can always download it again if needed), re-install using the download link provided in the update thread OP. That's what I usually have to do when Windows programs won't install/update properly.

Off topic: This has not been linked to Vegas issues, but it's worth noting, if you've updated Windows recently, might want to see if you need to uninstall that update as well.

https://betanews.com/2020/02/15/windows-10-kb4524244-recall/

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Systems:

Desktop

AMD Ryzen 7 1800x 8 core 16 thread at stock speed

64GB 3000mhz DDR4

Geforce RTX 3090

Windows 10

Laptop:

ASUS Zenbook Pro Duo 32GB (9980HK CPU, RTX 2060 GPU, dual 4K touch screens, main one OLED HDR)

Film_Digital wrote on 2/24/2020, 2:37 AM

Thanks for the response - I didn't realize the update was basically a full install. Uninstalling and using the download link didn't solve the problem unfortunately. It is interesting to note that the expanded view of uninstall shows 17.0.421 while the about screen shows 387 which the program seems to agree with as it wants to update. Looking through the fix list, I can't find anything non-trivial to see if 421 might be lurking under the surface. Thanks for the Windows pointer. I'm a bit past the KB referenced which is therefore installed. Uninstalling that KB looks dicey as they want a PC Reset. Looks like 387 for the duration.

VEGASDerek wrote on 2/24/2020, 8:32 AM

@Film_Digital, Often times install problems of this sort are the result of lack of disk drive space. May not be the problem here, but something to look at.

Christian de Godzinsky wrote on 2/24/2020, 11:37 AM

Just tried for the second time to update from VP 17 387. Started VP17, it said there was an update, I said go for it. Took it 10+ minutes to download. I said install immediately, VP17 window disappeared, security window appears (allow VP install...) I clicked yes, and then I get an error - Installer unable to update while VP is running!...

Ok, I tried it again - UGHHH it started the download again from the beginning. and I get the exact same error message - cannot install with VP running. It's not running - the install shut it down and the window disappeared before the security window opened!!!

Trying the direct download and install now!

The Install Immediately feature seems to be broken, exact the same behaviour here. The direct download worked, hopefully for you too :)

Christian

PS: In my case, the ldisk space was surely not a problem...

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Film_Digital wrote on 2/24/2020, 8:35 PM

@VEGASDerek Thanks for that suggesting that possibility; I did a check and there should be enough disk space. @john-rappl, @Christian de Godzinsky. Taking a cue of john-rappl (and finally realizing what direct download really meant from Christian's post also, i.e. not the link posted in the announcement), I went to the Magix site and direct downloaded using their Vegas 17 Pro link. Voila! 421 is now installed. Thanks to all who took valuable time to offer help.

 

 

TTTT wrote on 2/25/2020, 4:37 AM

Hello. I'm looking for the direct link to down latest build .exe installation file. (Not the online installer.)
If it's already been posted, sorry, I missed it. Thank you.

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Updated on 2022-01-18, some things may change

MAIN COMPUTER

System:

CPU: AMD Threadripper 2950x

GPU: Nvidia Geforce GTX 1080 Ti - Drivers on 2022-01-18: "Studio Drivers" 30.0.15.1109, 2021-12-29

RAM: 32 GB

Drive (for OS) : Samsung 980 Pro NVMe 2 TB

Drives (for performance) : Samsung 980 Pro NVMe 2 TB + Samsung 970 Pro nVME 1 TB

Drive (for storage) : Western Digital Gold 12 TB

Extra drives (for archives) : 4x SATA "cold" swap slots

MB: AsRock X399 Taichi

OS: Windows 10 Pro x64 19043.1466

Monitors: 3

Monitor used as colour reference: Asus ProArt PA329 (UHD 4K)

Secondary monitor: BenQ (UHD 4K) monitor that was supposed to have accurate colours, but after they replaced it twice, it looks like a different series and colours aren't that good.

Third monitor: Old Sony TV (Full HD) (approx. 10 years old)

Extra soundcard: Asus Xonar Essence STX

Extra soundcard (usually off): M-Audio Air 192|14

Vegas Related Software

Current version of Vegas Pro : 19.0 (Build 458)

Ignite Pro (full plug-in suite), NeatVideo

SECONDARY COMPUTER (often used as rendering maching)

CPU: Intel i7 6700k

GPU: Nvidia Geforce GTX 980

RAM: 32 GB

Drive (for OS): Samsung 850 Pro 512 GB

Drive (for storage): Westen Digital Black 6 TB (likely an "old" one)

Drive (for performance): Samsung 850 Pro 512 GB

Extra drives (for archives) : 4x SATA "cold" swipe slot

OS: Windows 10 Pro x64 19043.1466

Monitor: LG Flatron E2342

Vegas Related Software

(Same as for main computer)

 

TTTT wrote on 2/25/2020, 4:39 AM

Found it in here, tahnks: https://www.vegascreativesoftware.info/us/forum/vegas-pro-17-update-4-build-421--118954/

Updated on 2022-01-18, some things may change

MAIN COMPUTER

System:

CPU: AMD Threadripper 2950x

GPU: Nvidia Geforce GTX 1080 Ti - Drivers on 2022-01-18: "Studio Drivers" 30.0.15.1109, 2021-12-29

RAM: 32 GB

Drive (for OS) : Samsung 980 Pro NVMe 2 TB

Drives (for performance) : Samsung 980 Pro NVMe 2 TB + Samsung 970 Pro nVME 1 TB

Drive (for storage) : Western Digital Gold 12 TB

Extra drives (for archives) : 4x SATA "cold" swap slots

MB: AsRock X399 Taichi

OS: Windows 10 Pro x64 19043.1466

Monitors: 3

Monitor used as colour reference: Asus ProArt PA329 (UHD 4K)

Secondary monitor: BenQ (UHD 4K) monitor that was supposed to have accurate colours, but after they replaced it twice, it looks like a different series and colours aren't that good.

Third monitor: Old Sony TV (Full HD) (approx. 10 years old)

Extra soundcard: Asus Xonar Essence STX

Extra soundcard (usually off): M-Audio Air 192|14

Vegas Related Software

Current version of Vegas Pro : 19.0 (Build 458)

Ignite Pro (full plug-in suite), NeatVideo

SECONDARY COMPUTER (often used as rendering maching)

CPU: Intel i7 6700k

GPU: Nvidia Geforce GTX 980

RAM: 32 GB

Drive (for OS): Samsung 850 Pro 512 GB

Drive (for storage): Westen Digital Black 6 TB (likely an "old" one)

Drive (for performance): Samsung 850 Pro 512 GB

Extra drives (for archives) : 4x SATA "cold" swipe slot

OS: Windows 10 Pro x64 19043.1466

Monitor: LG Flatron E2342

Vegas Related Software

(Same as for main computer)

 

richard-p wrote on 2/25/2020, 3:01 PM

It is the worst ever....it crash all the time for not specific reason....it is so bug out I'm unable to finish projects I started.....I wish I did never install the update....and total lack of support from tech support create it total nightmare

gary-rebholz wrote on 2/25/2020, 3:10 PM

@richard-p, clearly whatever is happening for you is unusual as no one else has reported such terrible problems. Please post your tech support ticket number here so I can talk to our guys and find out more about the issue you've created with them.