How to Render my project in 4k to put on a Hard drive for TV viewing

set wrote on 11/21/2016, 6:13 PM

What is your TV type?

Also, what render settings have you tried?

Newer build 201 is available: https://www.vegascreativesoftware.info/us/forum/vegas-pro-14-update-3-build-201--104523/

Quitter wrote on 11/21/2016, 6:35 PM

You have to look at the TV manual, and find out which file formats your TV supports

john_dennis wrote on 11/21/2016, 7:01 PM

Here's how I do it for my Sony XBR49X850B.

Kinvermark wrote on 11/21/2016, 7:04 PM

For sure, TV playback can be frustrating. I have a samsung TV that for the longest time wouldn't play anything I rendered out of resolve, or handbrake, or gopro studio.... but did work nicely with Vegas intel HEVC.

I updated everything I could (playing back through twonky media player from a QNAP NAS) and now most h.264 and HEVC renders work fine.

NickHope wrote on 11/21/2016, 11:28 PM

In the video above, john_dennis is using Vegas2Handbrake, which automates the process of frameserving to Handbrake, which uses the x264 codec in this case, which gives you better quality per bit than the AVC encoders available in Vegas. If you have VP14 you need to read this.

Kinvermark wrote on 11/22/2016, 8:30 AM

I recommend you try a short Handbrake h264 render before you go to all the trouble of setting up the vegas2handbrake workflow just to make sure your TV will play the files. Mine did not. The frustration is that you can set all the encoder levels/profiles etc according to your TV manufacturers specifications and it still may not work, so you just have to keep testing.

diverG wrote on 11/23/2016, 8:49 AM

Surely if the timeline is rendered out to any standard BD format the TV should play the file.
For PAL 1920x1080 50i (mpeg2) or 1280x720 50P (mp4). For NTSC use comparable formats.

Audio PCM 48K hz Stereo. Seem to remember a bespoke template

megabit wrote on 11/23/2016, 9:02 AM

If you have a HDR10-complient TV, just let me know and I'll share with you how to properly encode your movies so that they switch the TV into HDR mode :) Works here like a charm - I can play h.265 movies either from an USB drive/stick, or cast them onto my Samung SUHD TV through wi-fi.

JJKizak wrote on 11/23/2016, 10:59 AM

I don't have a 4K tv yet but I don't like what I am seeing here.

JJK

fr0sty wrote on 11/23/2016, 5:24 PM

According to this site, Sony's TVs support AVC playback, so try the main concept AVC encoder, but customize the template so that you are rendering a 3840x2160 frame size output (make sure your project settings are set to that as well). Make your bitrate around 100mbps, try to play with different bitrates if you have trouble. There are no AVC 4K templates in Vegas, but I have used custom settings like that to render 4K to play back online or with a computer/game console.

https://esupport.sony.com/US/perl/support-info.pl?info_id=799

john_dennis wrote on 11/23/2016, 7:10 PM

Mainconcept AVC/MVC gets it done but I have been unable to customize any of the Sony AVC/MVC templates to render 4K in Vegas 13-453.

spacedog wrote on 11/24/2016, 4:29 AM

If you have a HDR10-complient TV, just let me know and I'll share with you how to properly encode your movies so that they switch the TV into HDR mode :) Works here like a charm - I can play h.265 movies either from an USB drive/stick, or cast them onto my Samung SUHD TV through wi-fi.

Hello megabit!

I have also a Samsung 4k TV and would like to know your workflow to render 10bit h.265 files.

Thank you.

megabit wrote on 11/26/2016, 12:19 AM

Here you go:

Assuming your clip has both video+audio, use ffmpeg (make sure it ccontains 10-bit x265 encoder - not all versions do):

ffmpeg -i "source" -pix_fmt yuv420p10le -c:v libx265 -preset fast -b:v 50M -x265-params keyint=60:bframes=3:vbv-bufsize=75000:vbv-maxrate=75000:colorprim=bt2020:transfer=smpte-st-2084:colormatrix=bt2020nc:master-display="G(13250,34500)B(7500,3000)R(34000,16000)WP(15635,16450)L(10000000,500)" -c:a aac -b:a 192K "output.ts"

Remember about correct file paths for ffmpeg.exe, input and output - I didn't use them in the above syntax! Source can be anything, but it's best to stay with YUV based format. You can adjust output bitrate by changing from -b:v 50M, to e.g. 75M for 75mbits average bitrate. You should also change vbv-bufsize=75000:vbv-maxrate=75000 both from 75000 to 100000 to never exceed maximum peaks above 100Mbits. You can also change preset from fast preset to medium or slow but encoding speed will then be lower for the quality to be slightly better.

Have luck!

Piotr

PS. The chunk starting with "colorprim" through "master-display" is responsible for triggering HDR mode in your Samsung SUHD; do NOT switch the latter into the fake HDR+ viewing mode! When playback starts, you will know the true HDR10 mode is active from the pop-up diplayed in the upper-right corner of the screen for a couple of seconds. Of course, if you want to see a picture in its full HDR glory, you must grade for HDR first - so really, your "source" file in the above ffmpeg command line should come from some NLE other that VP....