Is Vegas OK with 24H2?

Howard-Vigorita wrote on 10/12/2024, 12:21 PM

The 24H2 Windows build is rolling out. I've seen reports Windows crashes and not being able to log in while offline without a temporary patch Microsoft promises to negate later. Out of an abundance of caution, I've blocked it in WinUpdate on one of my win11 machines where it tried installing last night. Roll-back is possible but is not as easy as install. Has anyone here installed it and does Vegas run OK?

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bitman wrote on 10/12/2024, 12:30 PM

I have installed the 24H2 Windows build a few days back, and I have worked successfully with Vegas 365 VP22.

However I have now issues with hub login (see my other post:

https://www.vegascreativesoftware.info/us/forum/vp22-hub-login-nok-vp21-hub-login-still-ok-since-yesterday--147460/

But I have used the Vegas HUB successfully in the days after 24H2, but now since yesterday the hub will not start up (3 balls keep circling). Strangely enough Vegas HUB on VP21 does work on the same PC...

Last changed by bitman on 10/12/2024, 12:31 PM, changed a total of 1 times.

APPS: VIDEO: VP 365 suite (VP 22 build 194) VP 21 build 315, VP 365 20, VP 19 post (latest build -651), (uninstalled VP 12,13,14,15,16 Suite,17, VP18 post), Vegasaur, a lot of NEWBLUE plugins, Mercalli 6.0, Respeedr, Vasco Da Gamma 17 HDpro XXL, Boris Continuum 2025, Davinci Resolve Studio 18, SOUND: RX 10 advanced Audio Editor, Sound Forge Pro 18, Spectral Layers Pro 10, Audacity, FOTO: Zoner studio X, DXO photolab (8), Luminar, Topaz...

  • OS: Windows 11 Pro 64, version 24H2 (since October 2024)
  • CPU: i9-13900K (upgraded my former CPU i9-12900K),
  • Air Cooler: Noctua NH-D15 G2 HBC (September 2024 upgrade from Noctua NH-D15s)
  • RAM: DDR5 Corsair 64GB (5600-40 Vengeance)
  • Graphics card: ASUS GeForce RTX 3090 TUF OC GAMING (24GB) 
  • Monitor: LG 38 inch ultra-wide (21x9) - Resolution: 3840x1600
  • C-drive: Corsair MP600 PRO XT NVMe SSD 4TB (PCIe Gen. 4)
  • Video drives: Samsung NVMe SSD 2TB (980 pro and 970 EVO plus) each 2TB
  • Mass Data storage & Backup: WD gold 6TB + WD Yellow 4TB
  • MOBO: Gigabyte Z690 AORUS MASTER
  • PSU: Corsair HX1500i, Case: Fractal Design Define 7 (PCGH edition)
  • Misc.: Logitech G915, Evoluent Vertical Mouse, shuttlePROv2

 

 

Steve_Rhoden wrote on 10/12/2024, 1:36 PM

The real question is, What added benefit does this 24H2 update brings to Windows ?

Phil_P wrote on 10/12/2024, 4:37 PM

Been running here since pre-release, no issues.

RogerS wrote on 10/12/2024, 9:56 PM

Oddly Windows just installed 23H2 for me recently.

bitman wrote on 10/13/2024, 1:53 AM

 

Oddly Windows just installed 23H2 for me recently.

@RogerS I assume 23H2 is probably a prerequisite for 24H2, do not be surprised getting 24H2 soon.

APPS: VIDEO: VP 365 suite (VP 22 build 194) VP 21 build 315, VP 365 20, VP 19 post (latest build -651), (uninstalled VP 12,13,14,15,16 Suite,17, VP18 post), Vegasaur, a lot of NEWBLUE plugins, Mercalli 6.0, Respeedr, Vasco Da Gamma 17 HDpro XXL, Boris Continuum 2025, Davinci Resolve Studio 18, SOUND: RX 10 advanced Audio Editor, Sound Forge Pro 18, Spectral Layers Pro 10, Audacity, FOTO: Zoner studio X, DXO photolab (8), Luminar, Topaz...

  • OS: Windows 11 Pro 64, version 24H2 (since October 2024)
  • CPU: i9-13900K (upgraded my former CPU i9-12900K),
  • Air Cooler: Noctua NH-D15 G2 HBC (September 2024 upgrade from Noctua NH-D15s)
  • RAM: DDR5 Corsair 64GB (5600-40 Vengeance)
  • Graphics card: ASUS GeForce RTX 3090 TUF OC GAMING (24GB) 
  • Monitor: LG 38 inch ultra-wide (21x9) - Resolution: 3840x1600
  • C-drive: Corsair MP600 PRO XT NVMe SSD 4TB (PCIe Gen. 4)
  • Video drives: Samsung NVMe SSD 2TB (980 pro and 970 EVO plus) each 2TB
  • Mass Data storage & Backup: WD gold 6TB + WD Yellow 4TB
  • MOBO: Gigabyte Z690 AORUS MASTER
  • PSU: Corsair HX1500i, Case: Fractal Design Define 7 (PCGH edition)
  • Misc.: Logitech G915, Evoluent Vertical Mouse, shuttlePROv2

 

 

bitman wrote on 10/13/2024, 1:59 AM

The real question is, What added benefit does this 24H2 update brings to Windows ?

@Steve_Rhoden Progress I assume (or hope...)!

And a few things like: Windows 11 24H2 adds a new "sudo" command that lets you do things as if you were on a Linux computer. It sports a new Start menu, features improvements for the File Manager, and lets you handle 7z and RAR files without any third-party apps. Plus, 24H2 is when Microsoft moves to smaller updates that don't need a restart every time.

APPS: VIDEO: VP 365 suite (VP 22 build 194) VP 21 build 315, VP 365 20, VP 19 post (latest build -651), (uninstalled VP 12,13,14,15,16 Suite,17, VP18 post), Vegasaur, a lot of NEWBLUE plugins, Mercalli 6.0, Respeedr, Vasco Da Gamma 17 HDpro XXL, Boris Continuum 2025, Davinci Resolve Studio 18, SOUND: RX 10 advanced Audio Editor, Sound Forge Pro 18, Spectral Layers Pro 10, Audacity, FOTO: Zoner studio X, DXO photolab (8), Luminar, Topaz...

  • OS: Windows 11 Pro 64, version 24H2 (since October 2024)
  • CPU: i9-13900K (upgraded my former CPU i9-12900K),
  • Air Cooler: Noctua NH-D15 G2 HBC (September 2024 upgrade from Noctua NH-D15s)
  • RAM: DDR5 Corsair 64GB (5600-40 Vengeance)
  • Graphics card: ASUS GeForce RTX 3090 TUF OC GAMING (24GB) 
  • Monitor: LG 38 inch ultra-wide (21x9) - Resolution: 3840x1600
  • C-drive: Corsair MP600 PRO XT NVMe SSD 4TB (PCIe Gen. 4)
  • Video drives: Samsung NVMe SSD 2TB (980 pro and 970 EVO plus) each 2TB
  • Mass Data storage & Backup: WD gold 6TB + WD Yellow 4TB
  • MOBO: Gigabyte Z690 AORUS MASTER
  • PSU: Corsair HX1500i, Case: Fractal Design Define 7 (PCGH edition)
  • Misc.: Logitech G915, Evoluent Vertical Mouse, shuttlePROv2

 

 

Howard-Vigorita wrote on 10/13/2024, 10:47 AM

Any trouble running 24H2 from a private local network with a local-machine Windows login? I normally run my desktops that way and only breach security periodically for updates and Vegas license-checks.

john_dennis wrote on 10/13/2024, 4:01 PM

I'm currently running an OTB Windows Pro 11 system and Vegas 22 trial while dual booting with an in-place Windows Pro 11 upgrade of my old Windows Pro 10 image and Vegas Pro 21. Both Windows 11 systems are at 23H2 and I haven't been offered 24H2 in the twenty-one days I've been in this state.

Most of my efforts with Windows 11 have been undoing all the new features that are supposed to make my work easier.

Examples:

  • Right+Click context menus that bury Mediainfo on the second page under More Options.
  • Print Screen key that requires that I select whether to capture a portion of the screen or the full screen every time.
  • I have multiple Microsoft accounts, but building a system with a local account is difficult these days.
  • All of these issues and all the others can be overcome or worked around, it just makes my life more tedious with every update.

I don't usually build a system to run the operating system all day. Rather, to use the applications.

Dexcon wrote on 10/13/2024, 9:44 PM

@john_dennis  ... Re:

Print Screen key that requires that I select whether to capture a portion of the screen or the full screen every time.

Alt-Print Scrn captures the full screen and, in my case, saves it to OneDrive in the Pictures\Screenshots folder named with the date: e.g. "2024-10-14.png", "2024-10-14 (1).png", etc.

Agreed with the MediaInfo and Microsoft Accounts issues, the latter used to be so simple years ago.

Cameras: Sony FDR-AX100E; GoPro Hero 11 Black Creator Edition

Installed: Vegas Pro 15, 16, 17, 18, 19, 20, 21 & 22, HitFilm Pro 2021.3, DaVinci Resolve Studio 19.0.3, BCC 2025, Mocha Pro 2025.0, NBFX TotalFX 7, Neat NR, DVD Architect 6.0, MAGIX Travel Maps, Sound Forge Pro 16, SpectraLayers Pro 11, iZotope RX11 Advanced and many other iZ plugins, Vegasaur 4.0

Windows 11

Dell Alienware Aurora 11:

10th Gen Intel i9 10900KF - 10 cores (20 threads) - 3.7 to 5.3 GHz

NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2080 SUPER 8GB GDDR6 - liquid cooled

64GB RAM - Dual Channel HyperX FURY DDR4 XMP at 3200MHz

C drive: 2TB Samsung 990 PCIe 4.0 NVMe M.2 PCIe SSD

D: drive: 4TB Samsung 870 SATA SSD (used for media for editing current projects)

E: drive: 2TB Samsung 870 SATA SSD

F: drive: 6TB WD 7200 rpm Black HDD 3.5"

Dell Ultrasharp 32" 4K Color Calibrated Monitor

 

LAPTOP:

Dell Inspiron 5310 EVO 13.3"

i5-11320H CPU

C Drive: 1TB Corsair Gen4 NVMe M.2 2230 SSD (upgraded from the original 500 GB SSD)

Monitor is 2560 x 1600 @ 60 Hz

andyrpsmith wrote on 10/14/2024, 5:18 AM

Every day comes a new issue with Windows 11 24H2 blue screen of death, today is WD SSD drives and an issue with cache. Needs a registry key to fix. Best not to change yet in my view.

(Intel 3rd gen i5@4.1GHz, 32GB RAM, SSD, 1080Ti GPU, Windows 10) Not now used with Vegas.

13th gen i913900K - water cooled, 96GB RAM, 4TB M2 drive, 4TB games SSD, 2TB video SSD, GPU RTX 4080 Super, Windows 11 pro

J-Toresen wrote on 10/14/2024, 6:21 AM

@john_dennis

How did you build a system with a local account?

Jøran

john_dennis wrote on 10/14/2024, 8:24 AM

@J-Toresen

I didn't build it with a local account since the Windows 11 installation executables changed. Microsoft keeps plugging the hacks and I don't want to make that kind of effort my life's work. My original strategy was to create a Microsoft account that's indicative of the particular hardware, i.e. sillyname-Z790@outlook.com, configure the system, then add a local Administrator account and install the applications. I have yet to delete the Microsoft user from the machine leaving only the Local User account, however I have deleted quite a few sillyname-HWname@outlook.com accounts since I've been building Windows 11 system images for all of my machines that are capable of running Windows Pro 11. In spite of the commonly-held belief that I am a Luddite, I will have moved or replaced all of my running systems to Windows Pro 11 by the last week of support next year.

J-Toresen wrote on 10/14/2024, 9:02 AM

@john_dennis

Thanks for the answer. I asked because I want to install Windows 11 when support for Windows 10 ends. Microsoft's philosophy seems to be: Why make things simple when you can make them complicated.

Jøran

john_dennis wrote on 10/14/2024, 7:03 PM

@J-Toresen If you have a Windows 10 image that you would like to use as a base for Windows 11, an in-place upgrade "tends" to keep many of your settings as they were. I always enshrine an out-of-the-box image with my preferences so I don't have to go through the Windows gauntlet every time I want to start fresh with the latest version of Vegas, etc. When it rains, I even mount the image and do updates if I'm exceptionally bored.

  1. Download the Windows 11 installation files and create a bootable Windows 11 USB drive.
  2. Restore the "Gold" Windows 10 image.
  3. Boot to Windows 10 and do any updates or changes you wish to do.
  4. Insert the Windows 11 USB drive, navigate to the setup file and follow the bouncing ball.

Doing the upgrade from USB is quicker for me than accepting the offer of the upgrade from Windows Update since I always keep installable media around and the files don't have to be downloaded each time.

So far, I haven't had to create a Microsoft Account for any of my in-place upgrades. That could change in the future.

I haven't kept any of the Windows 11 images from this last round of tinkering. I'll do the process in earnest when I'm done testing Vegas 22.

J-Toresen wrote on 10/15/2024, 4:31 AM

@john_dennis

Thank you very much for the detailed description. One last question: what program do you use to create these images?

Jøran

john_dennis wrote on 10/15/2024, 9:15 AM

Macrium Reflect

J-Toresen wrote on 10/15/2024, 12:05 PM

@john_dennis

Thank you. I bought Macrium Reflect in 2010, it must have been one of the firste editions. I payed 19.99 GBP. But I haven't used such programs in many years. I see that the price is now € 41.99 / year. I will consider what is appropriate for me.

Jøran

john_dennis wrote on 10/15/2024, 12:24 PM

Create a bootable rescue disk in your 2010 version and see if it still works when booting standalone. I used AOMEI Backupper free version in the past and only switched to Macrium when my son bought a laptop with Intel's now defunct storage phenomenon which I can't remember the name of now (Optane?).

I do all my image manipulation standalone.

J-Toresen wrote on 10/15/2024, 1:26 PM

Hello again. I have deleted the exe file, and only kept the license file and the order confirmation etc. Otherwise I would have tested the 2010 version.

Jøran

Howard-Vigorita wrote on 10/16/2024, 3:13 PM

As an fyi, Microsoft has a published workflow it calls Out Of Box Experience that many techs use to set up Windows machines. Folks having issues with the 24H2 online login requirement are using OOBE to bypass the online login requirement as described here:
https://answers.microsoft.com/en-us/insider/forum/all/set-up-windows-11-without-internet-oobebypassnro/4fc44554-b416-4ecb-8961-6f79fd55ae0f

If I understand the 1st line of the post, Microsoft is denying they will remove the bypass. I have not installed 24H2 myself yet or tried that command.

john_dennis wrote on 10/16/2024, 6:53 PM

Thank you @Howard-Vigorita. I tried the command and was able to get a Windows Pro 11 desktop without a Microsoft Account or network connection.

Steve_Rhoden wrote on 10/17/2024, 2:20 AM

@john_dennis I wish i had the time and patience for all that you have suggested above (smile).