Need advice best PC-build editing/rendering Vegas Pro 20

Lei-sko wrote on 2/9/2023, 3:43 AM

I am building a new pc for editing with Vegas Pro 20. My 10 years old computer is too slow when editing/rendering in 4K. Today I have the case, power supply 850W and ATX Asus Prime Z790-P. From here I'm not sure but I suppose to use 32GB RAM 1.2V or 1.35V. I think I'll use an Intel i7-37000F CPU and a RTX 3060 (TI) or 3070 (TI) GPU. Does anyone have a build like this og does someone have a good advice to me about this? I wonder if any of this is unnecessary, and if I should replace some of the parts with others for better functionality with VP20 and 4K? Which of the parts gives the best effect, and which parts have less importance with Vegas Pro 20?

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Dexcon wrote on 2/9/2023, 3:53 AM

The starting point is to have a look at the system specifications recommended by Vegas for Vegas Pro 20:

https://www.vegascreativesoftware.com/us/specifications/#productMenu

It details the recommendations for HD, 4K and above.

Cameras: Sony FDR-AX100E; GoPro Hero 11 Black Creator Edition

Installed: Vegas Pro 15, 16, 17, 18, 19, 20, 21 & 22, HitFilm Pro 2021.3, DaVinci Resolve Studio 19.0.3, BCC 2025, Mocha Pro 2025.0, NBFX TotalFX 7, Neat NR, DVD Architect 6.0, MAGIX Travel Maps, Sound Forge Pro 16, SpectraLayers Pro 11, iZotope RX11 Advanced and many other iZ plugins, Vegasaur 4.0

Windows 11

Dell Alienware Aurora 11:

10th Gen Intel i9 10900KF - 10 cores (20 threads) - 3.7 to 5.3 GHz

NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2080 SUPER 8GB GDDR6 - liquid cooled

64GB RAM - Dual Channel HyperX FURY DDR4 XMP at 3200MHz

C drive: 2TB Samsung 990 PCIe 4.0 NVMe M.2 PCIe SSD

D: drive: 4TB Samsung 870 SATA SSD (used for media for editing current projects)

E: drive: 2TB Samsung 870 SATA SSD

F: drive: 6TB WD 7200 rpm Black HDD 3.5"

Dell Ultrasharp 32" 4K Color Calibrated Monitor

 

LAPTOP:

Dell Inspiron 5310 EVO 13.3"

i5-11320H CPU

C Drive: 1TB Corsair Gen4 NVMe M.2 2230 SSD (upgraded from the original 500 GB SSD)

Monitor is 2560 x 1600 @ 60 Hz

Wolfgang S. wrote on 2/9/2023, 4:05 AM

Would use an intel processor wtih an i-GPU. Maybe an Intel Core i9 12900K 16 (8+8) 3.20GHz So.1700 WOF

And an RTX 3070TI or 3080TI with 12GB ram would be great, too.

 

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Desktop: PC AMD 3960X, 24x3,8 Mhz * RTX 3080 Ti (12 GB)* Blackmagic Extreme 4K 12G * QNAP Max8 10 Gb Lan * Resolve Studio 18 * Edius X* Blackmagic Pocket 6K/6K Pro, EVA1, FS7

Laptop: ProArt Studiobook 16 OLED * internal HDR preview * i9 12900H with i-GPU Iris XE * 32 GB Ram) * Geforce RTX 3070 TI 8GB * internal HDR preview on the laptop monitor * Blackmagic Ultrastudio 4K mini

HDR monitor: ProArt Monitor PA32 UCG-K 1600 nits, Atomos Sumo

Others: Edius NX (Canopus NX)-card in an old XP-System. Edius 4.6 and other systems

RogerS wrote on 2/9/2023, 5:28 AM

Here are the results of one benchmark: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1b3ggVifKsuT-cp2kQHjum_KnQ4-2jBmUIvzmu7BQZ34/edit?usp=sharing

Here's a second that is specific to 20. https://forms.gle/amLAS3WiDVo49uo49

You can see what I went with in my signature and how it performed in both benchmarks (13th gen Intel i5). I'd get a i7-13700K over an F processor.

john_dennis wrote on 2/9/2023, 6:27 AM

A comparison I did when I was looking.

https://www.vegascreativesoftware.info/us/forum/system-upgrade-2023--137456/#ca862041

Both processors are cheaper, now.

Reyfox wrote on 2/9/2023, 8:00 AM

@RogerS, the VP20 benchmarks do not include Render (FHD, UHD) so it's hard to tell where a computer ranks?

RogerS wrote on 2/9/2023, 8:21 AM

The VP 20 benchmark is sorted by render time, column P, shortest time is best. At the moment I have both the best and worst times : )

There is no FHD or UHD as the project is neither, and having fewer options results in more comparable data and a more useful benchmark. Options are streamlined from the previous benchmark to avoid user error and based on what I learned from it (95% of renders were AVC so why include HEVC, etc.)

Reyfox wrote on 2/9/2023, 8:31 AM

@RogerS, thanks!

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Lei-sko wrote on 2/9/2023, 10:29 AM

Thanks for all the good advices . I can see that an i7-13700K is a better choice than i7-13700F.

I tested the project file , VEGAS Pro Fanmade Ad. When selecting a MagixAVC template and then changed frame size to width: 2160 and height: 2700, the rendering time was 28 min on my old computer. This is far too much for me.

My new computer should be much faster than this, but I don't want to buy parts that are not that important. Will there be any bigger differences in rendering time if I choose 64mb RAM instead of 32mb RAM (DDR5- 5600)? The best choice for my Asus MB says 5600 without OC.

Wolfgang S. wrote on 2/9/2023, 10:40 AM

No.

Desktop: PC AMD 3960X, 24x3,8 Mhz * RTX 3080 Ti (12 GB)* Blackmagic Extreme 4K 12G * QNAP Max8 10 Gb Lan * Resolve Studio 18 * Edius X* Blackmagic Pocket 6K/6K Pro, EVA1, FS7

Laptop: ProArt Studiobook 16 OLED * internal HDR preview * i9 12900H with i-GPU Iris XE * 32 GB Ram) * Geforce RTX 3070 TI 8GB * internal HDR preview on the laptop monitor * Blackmagic Ultrastudio 4K mini

HDR monitor: ProArt Monitor PA32 UCG-K 1600 nits, Atomos Sumo

Others: Edius NX (Canopus NX)-card in an old XP-System. Edius 4.6 and other systems

Howard-Vigorita wrote on 2/9/2023, 5:24 PM

@Lei-sko It might be because that motherboard is new, but the qvl seems a little light on qualified 4-dimm ram kits. Only Colorful-brand is listed. All the rest max out at 2-dimm kits with a warning not to combine 2 kits even if the specs are identical. That suggests only 2 dimms can be used with name brands even though there are 4 slots. The 2x 16gig latency specs (32gb) are substantially better than for 2x 32gig. Personally, I'd go with 64gb total on the theory NLE's like Vegas will improve their memory use in the future. But I would wait for 4-dimm 16gb kits to be qualified.

RogerS wrote on 2/9/2023, 8:07 PM

Please submit your benchmark time so others can also see the type of improvement they'll see upgrading from hardware like yours.