nested timeline issues

Drew-Morris wrote on 2/27/2021, 12:38 AM

HI all

i having a issues with the VP18 nested timeline, following a tutorial



to make a timer.

at about 1:45, he makes this nested timeline.

following along i get to that point and follow along, but nothing happens, no nested timeline is created, the two tracks don't merge into one.
its a simple merge timeline, the video is for VP17, have the steps changed?

also, in the video, while he is adding the timecode video FX, he says pick the "time" option, i noticed in VP18 there is no "time" option, is "time" now the default ?

i highlight the 2 tracks and no matter which way i select the." create a nested timeline", nothing happens when i do
i have gotten a warning a few times, but nothing happened after clicking yes.

its just joining a simple PNG and a video track with the empty media event with the video fx timecode.

any thoughts on what i am doing wrong, it works in his video?

Drew
 

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Drew-Morris wrote on 2/27/2021, 2:03 PM

Greeting My Fellow Mammals

i tried it differently, simpler form then the example, it still didn't work.

i tried doing it their way with the 2 clips on 2tracks nothing happens. i tried 2 clips on one track, that worked, then i went back into the nested timeline and moved the timer clip up to another track, to make it match the tutorial.

i also tried doing it this way, i did everything up to the addition timecode Videofx , then tried nested them together. got a save project window.

VEGAS Pro 18.0
Version 18.0 (Build 434)
Exception 0xC0000005 (access violation) READ:0x000000002C5E4798 IP:0x00007FF693AC16C6
In Module 'vegas180.exe' at Address 0x00007FF6937B0000 + 0x00000000003116C6
Thread: VideoCache ID=0x1208 Stack=


i click ok, and it shut down VP
Am i missing something here? i get nowhere trying the something on two different computer, with the same results, what gives?

A somewhat confused
Drew
 

 

john_dennis wrote on 2/27/2021, 10:55 PM

@Drew-Morris

I suspect you want to learn the new geegaws introduced in later versions of Vegas, but you can always do nesting the old fashioned way.

  1. Open another instance of Vegas.
  2. Create the project to be nested and save.
  3. Drag the project (nested project.veg) that you just saved to the timeline of your main project.

You can keep both projects open and work on them as needed. The changes will show when you save.

For the visual among us...

Drew-Morris wrote on 2/27/2021, 11:35 PM

HI
@john_dennis

is there a video tutorial on "the old way"?

Thanks
Drew

Jack S wrote on 2/28/2021, 4:49 AM

@Drew-Morris One of my Youtube tutorials deals with the old way of nesting. Take a look.

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Drew-Morris wrote on 2/28/2021, 11:53 AM

HI
@Jack S

Thanks for the link.

very good,😎 i will ingest your videos!!

😀 I Say!!, like the way you explain,it was very informative and the way you set up you projects layout, very helpful in understanding whats going on. plus, i learned a few other things as well, excellent!

Thank you Jack S.
Drew

walter-i. wrote on 2/28/2021, 2:46 PM

@Jack S

I also praise your tutorial, which also creates a lot of background knowledge!

I have a question:
You surely have a reason why you shorten Solid Color and title and text by entering numbers and not just pushing them together with the mouse.
I would be very interested in this reason.

Thank you in advance
Walter

Jack S wrote on 2/28/2021, 3:09 PM

@Drew-Morris Thanks for your positive comments.

@walter-i. Thanks also. In answer to your question, to keep the tutorials as short as possible, I create the title beforehand and note the various parameter values as I'm creating it. It's then just a matter of entering the relevant values in the correct place as I'm doing the tutorial. I don't know whether that's what you're talking about when you state 'You surely have a reason why you shorten Solid Color and title and text by entering numbers and not just pushing them together with the mouse'. On the other hand, if you mean when I change the event length with the Event Length duration parameter, I like to point out in my tutorials the many ways of changing certain values. Another reason is that my mouse hand isn't as steady as it used to be, so changing the value is more accurate than just dragging with the mouse.🙁

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walter-i. wrote on 2/28/2021, 3:21 PM

In answer to your question, to keep the tutorials as short as possible, I create the title beforehand and note the various parameter values as I'm creating it. It's then just a matter of entering the relevant values in the correct place as I'm doing the tutorial.

@Jack S
I got that - I just thought there was a reason why you were typing numbers for the duration of the Solid Color and Title and Text (7 seconds) instead of simply using the mouse (from the default 10 seconds) to 7 seconds to shorten.
It's probably just more exact if you enter the numbers - and not, as I thought, could possibly have an impact on the preview or rendering performance.

harry-worth wrote on 3/1/2021, 2:33 AM

Just make a quick Tut to add another way to make a count down timer,

The last upload did not go so well.... : Hope this works(

alifftudm95 wrote on 3/1/2021, 6:34 AM

You can create another VEG file for that part and just import it into ur master timeline like @john_dennis said.

for the timecode OFX, you can click the preset dropdown menu on the top to choose the "time" setup, or just go thru video OFX tab and just drag & drop the time preset into the media

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harry-worth wrote on 3/1/2021, 9:35 AM

Hi alifftudm95 . Yes I know about the veg and other ways to add bits but was just offering other ways of doing it just in case. Vegas is so versatile...