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TheRhino wrote on 6/6/2021, 7:46 AM

Unfortunately, however, all the AMD boards I have can only render 8-bit color to an output file and none of them even pretend to render lossless. The Nvidia and Intel gpus can do 10-bit and Nvidia presets have "lossless" selections which yield high quality (but a far cry from lossless) output.

@Howard-Vigorita What 10-bit preset are you using with Nvidia that does not work with AMD or have an AMD equivalent?

 

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Workstation C with $600 USD of upgrades in April, 2021
--$360 11700K @ 5.0ghz
--$200 ASRock W480 Creator (onboard 10G net, TB3, etc.)
Borrowed from my 9900K until prices drop:
--32GB of G.Skill DDR4 3200 ($100 on Black Friday...)
Reused from same Tower Case that housed the Xeon:
--Used VEGA 56 GPU ($200 on eBay before mining craze...)
--Noctua Cooler, 750W PSU, OS SSD, LSI RAID Controller, SATAs, etc.

Performs VERY close to my overclocked 9900K (below), but at stock settings with no tweaking...

Workstation D with $1,350 USD of upgrades in April, 2019
--$500 9900K @ 5.0ghz
--$140 Corsair H150i liquid cooling with 360mm radiator (3 fans)
--$200 open box Asus Z390 WS (PLX chip manages 4/5 PCIe slots)
--$160 32GB of G.Skill DDR4 3000 (added another 32GB later...)
--$350 refurbished, but like-new Radeon Vega 64 LQ (liquid cooled)

Renders Vegas11 "Red Car Test" (AMD VCE) in 13s when clocked at 4.9 ghz
(note: BOTH onboard Intel & Vega64 show utilization during QSV & VCE renders...)

Source Video1 = 4TB RAID0--(2) 2TB M.2 on motherboard in RAID0
Source Video2 = 4TB RAID0--(2) 2TB M.2 (1) via U.2 adapter & (1) on separate PCIe card
Target Video1 = 32TB RAID0--(4) 8TB SATA hot-swap drives on PCIe RAID card with backups elsewhere

10G Network using used $30 Mellanox2 Adapters & Qnap QSW-M408-2C 10G Switch
Copy of Work Files, Source & Output Video, OS Images on QNAP 653b NAS with (6) 14TB WD RED
Blackmagic Decklink PCie card for capturing from tape, etc.
(2) internal BR Burners connected via USB 3.0 to SATA adapters
Old Cooler Master CM Stacker ATX case with (13) 5.25" front drive-bays holds & cools everything.

Workstations A & B are the 2 remaining 6-core 4.0ghz Xeon 5660 or I7 980x on Asus P6T6 motherboards.

$999 Walmart Evoo 17 Laptop with I7-9750H 6-core CPU, RTX 2060, (2) M.2 bays & (1) SSD bay...

Howard-Vigorita wrote on 6/6/2021, 1:38 PM

I've never seen an amd preset for 10-bit anywhere. The driver has a 10-bit color depth setting but I think it only applies to the display... on my little navi it turns on 10-bit and 12-bit display options. But has no effect on render color depth. Not even with the amf ffmpeg libs. For accelerated 10-bit rendering, Nvidia and Intel hevc are pretty much the only games in town... all their hevc presets have the 10-bit option which is greyed out for amd presets.

IAM4UK wrote on 6/24/2021, 2:58 PM

This is not a particularly favorable time for many computer upgrades. But my 5-year-old i7 CPU is dragging relative to newer, less-expensive i5 ones, so I decided to do an incremental upgrade: I purchased a Z590 mobo (less-expensive MSI "Pro" type; not "Gamer" type nor super-overclocker type) and an intel Core i7-11700K.

I had been debating between a Ryzen 9 5900X and an i9-11900K. The former is only available at inflated prices, and the latter is getting absolutely savaged by online reviewers. But then I decided to check out one step lower on the CPU scale, since I was not going to upgrade other parts of my editing machine... and I feel confident that the 11700K will give me sought-after improvement in VEGAS Pro 18 responsiveness. It has the great advantage of being available and far less expensive than the other ones I thought I wanted. The main advantages of the i9 in this generation over the i7 are likely of marginal practical value for me, and the cost difference is more than I think is appropriate for my specific circumstance.

Fingers crossed...

Hulk wrote on 6/24/2021, 8:23 PM

This is not a particularly favorable time for many computer upgrades. But my 5-year-old i7 CPU is dragging relative to newer, less-expensive i5 ones, so I decided to do an incremental upgrade: I purchased a Z590 mobo (less-expensive MSI "Pro" type; not "Gamer" type nor super-overclocker type) and an intel Core i7-11700K.

I had been debating between a Ryzen 9 5900X and an i9-11900K. The former is only available at inflated prices, and the latter is getting absolutely savaged by online reviewers. But then I decided to check out one step lower on the CPU scale, since I was not going to upgrade other parts of my editing machine... and I feel confident that the 11700K will give me sought-after improvement in VEGAS Pro 18 responsiveness. It has the great advantage of being available and far less expensive than the other ones I thought I wanted. The main advantages of the i9 in this generation over the i7 are likely of marginal practical value for me, and the cost difference is more than I think is appropriate for my specific circumstance.

Fingers crossed...

Solid reasoning. You made a good decision. The 11900K is simply a better binned 11700K overclocked by Intel to an inch of it's life resulting in an insignificant performance increase for a lot more money.