New User Interface for New Vegas Pro

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Adriandirector wrote on 8/26/2016, 6:29 PM

Oh for God sake! Just picture the same All time loved vegas! Same buttons on same place and same menu order as always but just darker, flat designed, professional styled, new icons, and new features....that's all!

Paul-Fierlinger wrote on 8/26/2016, 6:38 PM

That's it! Now that shouldn't be too much or too little to ask for from anyone; seller, buyer, or old timer.

ushere wrote on 8/26/2016, 9:19 PM

 a sense of novelty!

wow, that's an interesting approach to professional software indeed ;-)

Chienworks wrote on 8/26/2016, 10:06 PM

The color of Ui is not a fashion ítem, vegas must be dark (em rays proof) this range of dark colors protect the eyes from bright ambients.

EM Rays Proof? Really? Are you still using CRT monitors? LCD/LED monitors do not emit EM rays at all, except of course for the visible light, which is just about entirely harmless.

igniz-krizalid wrote on 8/26/2016, 10:41 PM

I like Vegas interface that is what makes Vegas unique, all they need to do is changing dated icons and add an information palette with a list of all effects applied to the timeline, Vegas needs no drastic changes.

If you are looking for a great interface design Edius pro 8 is the answer

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Grazie wrote on 8/26/2016, 11:06 PM

I like your comments Igniz.

I have several "tweaks" I would like to have to the control panes and User GUI that would add efficiency to my work.

1] Smart Auto Columnar of all Event controls so I can see the Controls and not need to use the Vertical or Horizontal Slider. How would it be that a Cotrol Pane grows to match your activity? Marvellous!

2] Pre-Roll and Post-Roll of adjacent Events within Pan/Crop.

3] Open Multiple Control Panes. At least FX, Masking and Pan/Crop.

4] Floating Video Player Control.

5] Overlays for External Monitor. We have it in DVDA.

6] User FX Icons on Toolbar.

7] Snap of Offsets.

 

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NickHope wrote on 8/27/2016, 2:33 AM

I have seen the interfaces of both Resolve and Edius praised in this thread. They may be great in some ways but they are not a patch on Vegas in terms of configurability. Neither allows the user to position, size and tab all the windows as they like across multiple monitors and to save multiple layouts. Lots of requests for this functionality in the Resolve forum but Vegas has had it for many years.

Richard Jones wrote on 8/27/2016, 5:21 AM

As I suggested earlier we have seen the whole range of reaction to change from "no change whatsoever" to "Change everything, even if it's for its own sake (or even, God help us, fashion) with the majotity lying somewhere between, It is folloing the classic sin curve for population distribution so that should not come as too much of a surprise and I guess Magix will take a great deal of useful guidance from this thread.

 

Richard

rcarlton wrote on 8/27/2016, 8:19 AM

I would like the interface to work properly with a 4K monitor.

glovercover wrote on 8/27/2016, 12:52 PM

 a sense of novelty!

wow, that's an interesting approach to professional software indeed ;-)

To be honest, Vegas has never been a professional software :) Vegas is not used on television, with Vegas does not edit Hollywood blockbusters. Vegas is popular only among fans, amateurs and independent videomakers.

  And you know why! :) No support of professional formats DNxHD, ProRes, no collaboration workflow, no integration with broadcasting systems, stability awful, incomprehensible work with color standards. But we know it :) and still love Vegas! 

igniz-krizalid wrote on 8/27/2016, 1:14 PM

I have seen the interfaces of both Resolve and Edius praised in this thread. They may be great in some ways but they are not a patch on Vegas in terms of configurability. Neither allows the user to position, size and tab all the windows as they like across multiple monitors and to save multiple layouts. Lots of requests for this functionality in the Resolve forum but Vegas has had it for many years.


I really don't know what version of Edius are you talking about, indeed you can do all of that in Edius pro 8.22 (current version), or you can even use it in a single mode or dual mode monitor, things that in Magix video pro or Resolve you are force to use dual all the time... Edius and Vegas are so versatil in general terms and I love them both!

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NickHope wrote on 8/27/2016, 8:21 PM

Thanks for the correction igniz-krizalid. I haven't used Edius for a long time.

Chienworks wrote on 8/28/2016, 8:30 PM

glovercover wrote on 08/27/2016, 01:52 PM

"To be honest, Vegas has never been a professional software :) Vegas is not used on television, with Vegas does not edit Hollywood blockbusters. Vegas is popular only among fans, amateurs and independent videomakers."

Not entirely true. Nightline was edited in Vegas for a couple of years, the primary reason being that it was the fastest way the producers found to go from recording to on-air.

One of the "Star Trek" movies, i think possibly 8, had all the sound effects edited in Vegas. The sound designer wrote an article about how it was nice to be able to do all the tweaking in real-time right on the set and get immediate feedback from the director and actors. Often a seen reshoot would take into account actor reaction to a sound effect modified because of the previous take.

So, there are a television example and a Hollywood example for you. It's especially intriguing to note that it was the audio capability used in Hollywood, since there have been so many peoplel who consider Vegas to be a video-only program without understanding it's one of the best audio editors out there too.

Paul-Fierlinger wrote on 8/28/2016, 10:04 PM

I made a theatrical movie featuring Christopher Plummer, Lynn Redgrave (it was her last movie) Isabella Rossellini and a few other Broadway stars. The movie was distributed by New Yorker Films (the distributor of all the Italian and French New Wave films in the 60’s and 70’s) and it was an official participant of the Toronto Film Festival and selected by Roger Ebert at his film festival in Champaign, Illinois. for being the best animated movie of 2010. After it opened at the Film Forum in NYC to raving reviews in the New York Times, Variety, and many other publications it played in theaters in in all major cities in the US – then it played in London, Paris, Rome, Istanbul, Tel Aviv, Seoul, Melbourne, and many other cities & countries around the world.

So yes, it’s an animated, 80 minute film called, My Dog Tulip and directed animated, painted and composited just by my wife and me in our home with music and sound designed by John Avarese in his Philadelphia home, which would make most people cringe and write it off as not exactly a professional production but when considering the above credentials, who is going to call us none professional?  For instance, the V.O. track of Isabella Rossellini was recorded in her kitchen. It took us 2 ½ years to make the film, including pre and post production, about the same amount of time it takes major Hollywood animation outfits to create feature length films, only they have a staff of hundreds while our entire staff comprised  of the 3 of us plus three producers (there’s some irony right there) and we were all well paid, equivalent to union salaries in Hollywood or above.

Indie films are just as professional by these standards as are Hollywood films and we all know how many Hollywood productions have gone belly up – including some Disney films, if I’m not mistaken. So what are the criteria for deserving the label “professional” and how does this film miss those? If I hadn’t had Vegas to edit this film with I would have done it with one of the other few available NLEs but I started with DPS, migrated to Premiere and settled on Vegas 6 from which I have never found a need or desire to move. While we were editing this movie, we had a few other small commercial jobs to attend to and at times had 3 or 4 projects running and worked on at the same time (alternating from one to the next several times in the course of a day with all projects opened in the same computer -- see specs in my profile if interested).

The final delivery we made was a 1080p PNG image sequence rendered in Vegas from our AVI files and transferred to a filmout studio in Philadelphia to make a 35 mm film and DVD and BR disk via a pocket size external HD and the resulting video received several top reviews from several blogs that specialize in evaluating such stuff. Sorry for the somewhat windy post but it describes the worflow of a major professional movie, so how could it be told any shorter?

zdogg wrote on 8/29/2016, 1:37 AM

Add my name to the "If it ain't broke, don't fix it" crowd......  Tweaks are fine,  the user interface, which I call WYSIWYG, (what you see is what you get) is THE MOST intuitive, easiest to manipulate directly of all the major players. If you can improve on that aspect, great...here's ONE IDEA how to do so....(and this is a great one, borrowed from Magix' own Samplitude/Sequoia)  if you have a Pan/crop/FX window open, it should CHANGE WITHOUT CLOSING when you click on another EVENT that you'd want to also edit/pan/crop.  IOW, no need to close the Pan/crop, go to next even, reopen Pan/Crop....so cool in Samplitude, which also has event based editing.....(called objects in that program)....

 

OldSmoke wrote on 8/29/2016, 6:50 AM

zdogg

You dont need to close the Pan/Crop window but you have to click on the Pan/Crop icon of the next event for it to change.

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zdogg wrote on 8/29/2016, 2:01 PM

Thanks OldSmoke!! I did not know, but it would be useful, as well, to have a "next" and "previous" (event) button inside the Pan/Crop editor, marked by simply arrows forward back and  also an up and down  so you can get to that next event without accessing the timeline, which might indeed be covered by a floating "Pan/Crop" window....but that is good information, thanks.  

OldSmoke wrote on 8/29/2016, 2:31 PM

it would be useful, as well, to have a "next" and "previous" (event) button inside the Pan/Crop editor

I agree and same for the FX window.

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BradfordWest wrote on 8/29/2016, 4:57 PM

I'd like to see a simple search box in the Plug-in chooser window.

Grazie wrote on 8/31/2016, 8:15 AM

There is a Seach option the FX Window. It's a wee bit slow. 

FPP wrote on 8/31/2016, 7:13 PM

I think the current UI with multiple screens and the much celebrated intuitive flow of the software has allowed me to learn NLE functionality in a way that I did not expect.. I am very comfortable with how it is.. And from where I sit, nothing needs to be changed.

rcarlton wrote on 8/31/2016, 9:21 PM

I would like to be able to use ColorChecker video card to color correct my video similar to the way Resolve does it.

DrLumen wrote on 9/1/2016, 6:07 AM

The color of Ui is not a fashion ítem, vegas must be dark (em rays proof) this range of dark colors protect the eyes from bright ambients.

EM Rays Proof? Really? Are you still using CRT monitors? LCD/LED monitors do not emit EM rays at all, except of course for the visible light, which is just about entirely harmless.


I too wondered what he is referencing to make those claims. I'm thinking it is like all the articles on the lethality of dihydrogen monoxide. An idiotic attempt at using FUD to try to justify changes. (ingorance at best, intentional obfuscation at worst)

http://www.dhmo.org/facts.html#DANGERS

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JJKizak wrote on 9/1/2016, 6:38 AM

There is nothing wrong with the interface because everybody changes it to what they want anyway, docking, color, three monitors, exc. Now the default interface cna be changed.

JJK