New User Interface for New Vegas Pro

glovercover wrote on 8/23/2016, 4:18 PM

 

 

For Magix is very important to update the interface in the first versions! The first impression is very important! A new feelings, new emotions, a new experience - this all about UI. Even if Vegas 14 will be very fast and stable, it will be the same old Vegas . This must change! This is what people will pay - a sense of novelty!

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VMP wrote on 8/23/2016, 4:28 PM

Maybe a 'polished look' yes but not limiting the capability of the original interface in anyway.
The possibility to resize and (CTRL) dock all the windows IS what makes Vegas so versatile and productive.
Compared to the limited fixed window interface of other NLE's.

Looking at the current NLE from Magix it would probably look something like this: http://magazine.magix.com/en/wp-content/uploads/sites/3/2015/04/videoprox7_int_screen_1.png

VMP

OldSmoke wrote on 8/23/2016, 4:35 PM

+1 VMP!

I wouldnt change it too much. Many users are very familiar with the current interface. I would hate to see it going the MS Office direction which is a complete disaster after the 2003 version with all the ribbons.

I would appreaciate if the new lower toolbar would be customizable too.

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Tim Stannard wrote on 8/23/2016, 4:40 PM

What I like about the current interface, dated though it may look, is the fact that lots of information is very clearly displayed and there are options to turn so much on/off (eg clip/take name, busses). Make it too "pretty" and it becomes more difficult to find or read such things. The current look appeals to the science/systematic part of my brain so I don't need to think about that.

Whilst editing is creative and artistic, the actual functions are systematic and I like an interface that reflects the functionality so I don't need to concentrate on that (the "how") when my attention should be on creating the result (the "why" and the "when"). However, I'm sure others work differently.

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vkmast wrote on 8/23/2016, 4:41 PM

+1 for all three above.

Hulk wrote on 8/23/2016, 4:42 PM

Yeah just be careful of reinventing the wheel.

VMP wrote on 8/23/2016, 4:43 PM

OldSmoke,
Have you tried Options->Customize Timeline Toolbaar?
That customizes the lower toolbar.

VMP

OldSmoke wrote on 8/23/2016, 4:45 PM

OldSmoke,

Have you tried Options->Customize Timeline Toolbaar?

VMP
 


VMP,

That doesnt allow to display new buttons from scripts and extensions such as Vegasaur.

Proud owner of Sony Vegas Pro 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12 & 13 and now Magix VP15&16.

System Spec.:
Motherboard: ASUS X299 Prime-A

Ram: G.Skill 4x8GB DDR4 2666 XMP

CPU: i7-9800x @ 4.6GHz (custom water cooling system)
GPU: 1x AMD Vega Pro Frontier Edition (water cooled)
Hard drives: System Samsung 970Pro NVME, AV-Projects 1TB (4x Intel P7600 512GB VROC), 4x 2.5" Hotswap bays, 1x 3.5" Hotswap Bay, 1x LG BluRay Burner

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Tom Pauncz wrote on 8/23/2016, 4:55 PM

One of the main things that makes Vegas so intuitive and easy to grasp IS the interface/look & feel. Hopefully no drastic changes there for V14.

MikeLV wrote on 8/23/2016, 5:03 PM

As a rank beginner several years ago (and still today) I chose Vegas after trying all the other major NLE's because it was intuitive and the interface was easy to understand. I'm going to have to echo what was said here, don't change it all around just because you acquired it.  The interface has stayed basically the same as long as I can remember and it works well.

john_dennis wrote on 8/23/2016, 5:16 PM

I was in the computer industry since 1976 and frankly I'm very weary with user interface changes. Last week our bank changed the web site where we do our finances and my wife was livid. Of course, she yelled down the stairs asking me what I had done. I'm still not sure she believes that I didn't reconfigure the Wells Fargo online user interface. Does a word processor actually need a "ribbon"?

MikeLV wrote on 8/23/2016, 5:21 PM

If the interface isn't broken, and no one is complaining about it, don't touch it.  Seems like common sense to me.

dxdy wrote on 8/23/2016, 6:51 PM

I hate change. The interface is fine.

rmack350 wrote on 8/23/2016, 7:16 PM

- 1 regarding Microsoft's Ribbon bar. It's horrible. I'm STILL trying to find things on it. What has it been, 5 years? I'm never going to memorize the various ribbons. I'm never going to try.

I remember when the SCS team (or was it Sonic Foundry) simply tried to add some color to the interface. Many forum users dubbed it a "Hello Kitty" interface and raised holy he** about it.

Personally, while I wouldn't mind a better look, what I think would be most useful is basic functionality improvements. Like being able to grab at the intersection of three windows and adjust all of their sizes at the same time. Or some sort of iconic indication in the Project Media window to show that media has mediaFX applied.

VMP's example illustrates something that's always bugged me about the track view. You can choose a color for the track header button. Why? It would have more of a reason for being if it made the whitespaces of your track media actually match that color. But then the Hello Kitty Resistance would need a switch to turn the clip coloring back off.

Chienworks wrote on 8/23/2016, 7:45 PM

Quite agree with maintaining the current UI as much as possible. I've looked at a bunch of other NLEs and their interfaces are all annoying and difficult to navigate. Vegas & ACID have everything else beat by miles for a clean and functional interface.

Grazie wrote on 8/23/2016, 10:51 PM

I'm keeping an eye over the next changes for our beloved VEGAS. The changes being asked for require a major depth with not only programming skills but also, a very very experienced understanding of the Vegas-Code itself. Are these individuals still part of the MAGIX-Madison Team? 

It's this that I'm truly "concerned" about. If MAGIX has budgeted for such improvements, only time will tell.

Grazie

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cinefilm wrote on 8/23/2016, 11:05 PM

If it ain't broke don't fix it. No one has a problem with the UI interface look and feel, I mentioned once about the audio mixer, if its faders were larger and more DAW looking like slowtools, nuendo, cubase etc.

 
ushere wrote on 8/23/2016, 11:35 PM

agree about keeping it pretty much the same, but...

a. i would like my added icons to remain in place through out an editing session and not go walkabout.

b. i would like to control the brightness, etc.,of the gui if possible

c. also the font sizing when using high rez monitirs.

d. and a spell check on the forum page ;-)

 

kplo wrote on 8/23/2016, 11:35 PM

Been with Vegas since V3. One of the great things about it is the consistency of the UI over the years. The "new stuff" hasn't killed the feel of the program.

My .02.

Ken

farss wrote on 8/24/2016, 2:17 AM

agree about keeping it pretty much the same, but...

a. i would like my added icons to remain in place through out an editing session and not go walkabout.

b. i would like to control the brightness, etc.,of the gui if possible

c. also the font sizing when using high rez monitirs.

d. and a spell check on the forum page ;-)

 


That's all I can think of that would be nice. None are a major need for me though.
I can think of many more pressing enhancements / changes / bugs that do need time spent on.

Dr Zen wrote on 8/24/2016, 3:50 AM

 

 

For Magix is very important to update the interface in the first versions! The first impression is very important! A new feelings, new emotions, a new experience - this all about UI. Even if Vegas 14 will be very fast and stable, it will be the same old Vegas . This must change! This is what people will pay - a sense of novelty!

I completely agree with your thoughts on "the look" of the interface!
It definitely needs a long overdue makeover to bring back some kind of sex appeal/clean look to the program. I know that for a very large number of younger people on YouTube, they see the outdated styling of the desktop as a big negative and I completely agree with them. It is almost embarassingly old fashioned. A bit like dad's idea of fashion from the 70's being cool to him, but not to everyone else.

If you are strictly a left brained individual, I can understand why you don't see a need to change the design, however us right brained people are screaming out for some creative input that is worthy of 2016, not 1996. I have a sneaking suspicion that those not in favour of a makeover probably still have apricot coloured bathrooms at home, straight out of pleasantville. No disrespect meant by that - tongue firmly in cheek!

In the paradise of the left brain, I can also appreciate that not destroying the core functionality of what we already love, is also critically important.

Peace 💖

vkmast wrote on 8/24/2016, 4:01 AM

Doc Derek, you can count me in as strictly left-brained in this :)

I don't have an apricot coloured bathroom though.

TC Phil wrote on 8/24/2016, 6:25 AM

My wish list includes: Alternative ways 1) to create fades in addition to the mouse drag which can be cumbersome if you suffer from wrist problems 2) Changing still image lengths on the fly

Chienworks wrote on 8/24/2016, 6:32 AM

My problem with UI restyling for updated "sex appeal/sci-fi advancement" is that i've never seen a case of this being done where it doesn't obscure functionality.

Microsoft spent millions and uncounted thousands of man-hours finding an interface that was the most intuitive for users to work with, and came up with Windows XP. It bred a decade of software that used those UI bits to very good effect, making software that was emminently clear, obvious, and usable. Yes, it's stark and old-fashioned, but it Just Plain Works. Most people don't have to hunt around trying to find things and figure out what they do. The just click the button they see on the screen that does what they want and know it does. Pretty much all "advancements" since then have been steps back away from that peak of usability.

I just keep thinking about all those marvelously artistic skins people produced for WinAmp, and then later for Media Player, and most people i know would look at them and ask "Where's the play button? I can't find how to play a song in this thing!" This was ... bad.

DrLumen wrote on 8/24/2016, 11:56 AM

The problem is that any style or color changes simply chasing the newest fad becomes dated that much more quickly. To use the apricot bathroom analogy, how long do you think the current color trends will stay current?

Personally, I really hate having to relearn something because the developers decide to change everything simply for change sake. If I have to relearn something then I will learn something else.

I might add that the OP's post was their first and only...

PS-Edit. Why is that I don't see the typos until I hit post? <shrugs>

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