Not sure about why you can't load LUTS. Bring up an Adjustment Track and then click on FX on the left and then find the LUT Filter. I been using LUTS from 2 LUT Packs for the last 3 years.

Before the Adjustment Track, I would put all my clips on one track and then same thing on left, click FX and find the LUT Filter. I am not sure if version 18 had that but I know for sure 20 and 21 has it.

Of course LUTs work in VEGAS. There is now a LUT Fx as well as the color grading panel (no need for a third-party tool).

I can't speak to copyright protection by LUT makers though, that isn't a VEGAS issue.

I'm quite disappointed that Vegas, it seems to me, is deliberately blocking the use of third-party packages 

That is a point of view that is completely unsupported by the facts.

Third party addons and plugins must: 1) Meet industry and compliance standards; and, 2) in some cases be intentionally designed to be compatible with Vegas. Nothing is being "fenced out" from you.

Effects bundled with Vegas Pro 18 probably will not work with any other version because you were granted a limited use license, not a perpetual one for future upgrades.

Vegas' parent corporation is under no obligation to guarantee software support for any Tom, Dick, or Harry who decides to write a plugin. Nor from companies who choose to ignore the SDK.

I have used Vegas for 22 years, and none of its present or previous owners have restricted legitimate third party effects, LUTS, or "others" in any way of which I am aware. In some cases, open source encoders cannot be included natively in Vegas because of commercial licensure restrictions set forth by industry regulatory agencies.

Vegas Post / 365 includes some partner applications. Part of your subscription cost is for legal commercial licensure of these partnered applications. Make sense?

I know that over time, your perception will change, because you will be less inclined to fill in the blanks in your knowledge with speculation.

Welcome to the forums; Vegas certainly has its share of problems and growing pains, but those you seem to draw attention to simply don't exist.

 

@mark-y

Hello, thank you for the message and the information, but I think you misunderstood me.

It's not about whether you work with third-party things that are not legally correct. That's out of the question, I'm only talking about things that are okay to copy, whether free or purchased. The point is that in Vegas, for example, only .cube files can be integrated in the effect LUTs area or in the color grading panel, which then leads to a confusing, endlessly long selection list if you have 100 or more LUTs. It would be much nicer and user-friendly if these effects as well as Vegas' own effects could be sorted in a designated third-party tab in the effects area at the top left in the same user-friendly manner as Vegas own effects or those purchased on the way, where there ist he section for 3rd Part Plug-Ins. So why it´s not working?

That would be nice and user-friendly and I'm looking for such a solution, which Vegas doesn't seem to offer yet compared to other programs😟

Not sure about why you can't load LUTS. Bring up an Adjustment Track and then click on FX on the left and then find the LUT Filter. I been using LUTS from 2 LUT Packs for the last 3 years.

Before the Adjustment Track, I would put all my clips on one track and then same thing on left, click FX and find the LUT Filter. I am not sure if version 18 had that but I know for sure 20 and 21 has it.

@Sandhill_Films

Hello, thank you for the message but the point for me is not the specific option to only use another LUT or so.

I know that .cube files can be integrated in the effect LUTs area or in the color grading panel. But if you have quite a few of them, then it leads to a confusing, endlessly long selection list if you have 100 or more LUTs. It would be much nicer and user-friendly if these effects as well as Vegas' own effects could be sorted in a designated third-party tab in the effects area at the top left in the same user-friendly manner as Vegas own effects or those purchased on the way, where there ist he section for 3rd Part Plug-Ins. So why it´s not working?

That would be nice and user-friendly and I'm looking for such a solution, which Vegas doesn't seem to offer yet compared to other programs😟

Of course LUTs work in VEGAS. There is now a LUT Fx as well as the color grading panel (no need for a third-party tool).

I can't speak to copyright protection by LUT makers though, that isn't a VEGAS issue.

@RogerS

Hello, thank you for the message but the point for me is not the specific option to only use another LUT or so.

I know that .cube files can be integrated in the effect LUTs area or in the color grading panel. But if you have quite a few of them, then it leads to a confusing, endlessly long selection list if you have 100 or more LUTs. It would be much nicer and user-friendly if these effects as well as Vegas' own effects could be sorted in a designated third-party tab in the effects area at the top left in the same user-friendly manner as Vegas own effects or those purchased on the way, where there ist he section for 3rd Part Plug-Ins. So why it´s not working?

That would be nice and user-friendly and I'm looking for such a solution, which Vegas doesn't seem to offer yet compared to other programs😟

But if you have quite a few of them, then it leads to a confusing, endlessly long selection list if you have 100 or more LUTs.

 That would be nice and user-friendly and I'm looking for such a solution, which Vegas doesn't seem to offer yet compared to other programs

Until such an option becomes available (if it does), you don't have to have all your LUTs listed under the one folder. At the moment, both the VEGAS LUT Filter and Look LUT in the CGP have a folder search option (File/Browse in the LUT Filter and the folder icon in the CGP's Look LUT). The folder structure is up to the user to set up. For example, you could have separate sub-folders with names based on the 3rd party LUT provider, look genre/style, etc.

With 3rd party FX (like BCC, NewBlueFX and so on), these FX are installed by an executable .exe file whereas LUTs are not programs but rather a file extension (container) to store data in a specific format - dare I say not all that dissimilar to media like jpg/png/mp3/wav/mp4/mpeg/ect though of course LUTs are not media. Happy to be corrected on this if needed.

I don't really see what the problem is- the initial complaint was about LUTs not working, which they do.

I cannot import other LUTS and other asset effects that are accessible for free into Vegas 21

LUT cube files work fine.

If the issue is that there is no way to quickly preview the LUTs, I agree that's not ideal. You can make a feature request here.

For just finding your LUTs quickly I saved a few presets for ones I often use and they show up in the Fx panel under the LUT Fx:

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there are not particularly many effects in Vegas, but these are withheld from the additionally more expensive subscription model. So, even though you've paid the full price, you'd have to take out an additional subscription, which I think is pretty bad because, apparently of course, it wasn't that clear when you bought it.

I am not aware of any effects requiring the subscription. There are differences in bundles from the Edit to the more expensive ones, but that's for third-party software.

There are GL Transitions you can download for free. https://www.vegascreativesoftware.info/us/forum/gl-transitions-gallery-sharing-place-share-the-code-here--133472/

@mark-y

Hello, thank you for the message and the information, but I think you misunderstood me.

It's not about whether you work with third-party things that are not legally correct. That's out of the question, I'm only talking about things that are okay to copy, whether free or purchased. The point is that in Vegas, for example, only .cube files can be integrated in the effect LUTs area or in the color grading panel, which then leads to a confusing, endlessly long selection list if you have 100 or more LUTs. It would be much nicer and user-friendly if these effects as well as Vegas' own effects could be sorted in a designated third-party tab in the effects area at the top left in the same user-friendly manner as Vegas own effects or those purchased on the way, where there ist he section for 3rd Part Plug-Ins. So why it´s not working?

That would be nice and user-friendly and I'm looking for such a solution, which Vegas doesn't seem to offer yet compared to other programs😟

@Tom-Bastian

That is unlike anything you said in your first post, it is a rational observation, and seems to me a worthy topic for a Feature Request.

You may wish to edit or delete your first post in this thread, which conveys a different tone, and "start a new thread" with the words [Feature Request]  in the title, and begin it with the same language you used in your 2nd response to me and several other of your "peer users" on this forum.

That way, it will be read and considered by the people who really matter here, without any negative appearances.

I agree that better sorting options for LUTS can be devised, and that LUTS other than Cube33 can be supported.

That said, I write a lot of LUTS myself, and I intimately know the limitations of Vegas in its recent state (not "deliberate blocking" as you imagined).

You can be a player in that development effort, and I will be more than happy to share with you my learning experiences in compiling this expansive set of camera manufacturers' LUTS and a smaller set highly accurate colorspace conversion LUTS I personally wrote and adapted for Vegas users and others.

These 600+ professional LUTS are offered free for noncommercial use, and AFAICT the .cube files all work in Vegas Pro, so I have seen no indication of a conspiracy at the parent company. Feel free to download it and try them out for yourself.

https://drive.google.com/open?id=12q-Ehteq7q7rYHiX7Kwtp2C2GpQwrXZ5&usp=drive_fs

While you are waiting for action on your feature request, there is even a free Bulk LUTS Previewer included in the archive that should aid you. Yes, it has already been suggested to the Developers as a model for a better system of accessing LUT folders inside Vegas.

Also, and specifically FYI, it is up to VisionColor to make their excellent plugin compatible with the recently-released Vegas Pro 21, and not the other way around. You may wish to contact VisionColor directly with your question about their development timeline.

Since Vegas does not provide non-partnered entities with advance pre-release copies of its upgrades, compatibility of addons is always a game of catchup, not just with VisionColor, but with such close Vegas friends as Vegasaur, HOS, jetdv, Debugmode, MagicYUV, Voukoder, and the list goes on and on. . .

Welcome to the forums, and Top of the Holidays at 'ya!

It's a shame that the free 3D LUT Creator OFX plugin doesn't seem to work with VP21, as it offers full previews

Since Vegas does not provide non-partnered entities with advance pre-release copies of its upgrades,

That isn't really true, developers can work directly with the VEGAS team to ensure compatibility; I've introduced a few myself. Many of these are small teams or individuals that don't regularly update their software. (VisionColor was made mostly redundant when VEGAS added its own LUT loader.)

Here's a feature request thread which is normally where we save feature requests:
https://www.vegascreativesoftware.info/us/forum/vegas-pro-feature-requests--134374/

@Tom-Bastian FWIW, the free 3D LUT Creator OFX plugin doesn't even work for me in Davinci Resolve. Can't speak for the paid version of that plugin, but the link on the developer web site to the Free Windows Version is totally dead now. As reported earlier, the v2 plugin crashes Vegas 21 upon loading. DaVinci gets a little further but crashes while it's generating all the previews. Seems to need more development work. Suggest you follow the developers official Facebook page for plugin update news, or better yet, log into your account with them where update news might be more current.