Nvidia 3060 Ti Vegas 18 Benchmarks

TheRhino wrote on 12/19/2020, 2:11 PM

$400 Nvidia RTX 3060 Ti vs. my $350 VEGA 64 LQ (Liquid Cooled):

I snagged a MSI Nvidia RTX 3060 Ti during the whole 10 minutes Best Buy had them in stock online, it arrived, and I ran our Vegas benchmark tests using Nvidia Studio driver 460.89, release date 12-15-2020. Tests were run on my 9900K workstation clocked at 4.8 ghz with variable speed enabled for silent running with my VEGA 64 LQ (also silent) at stock settings. It was removed and the 3060 Ti was also run at stock settings. Tested using Vegas 18.373 with source video on one fast M.2 RAID & target going to another M.2 RAID...

Red Car Sample Project to 1080p MP4
RTX 3060 Ti NVENC = 0:19, VEGA 64 LQ VCE = 0:15, (0.13 with CPU at 5 ghz)

Sample Project 4K to 1080p FHD 25 fps MP4
RTX 3060 Ti NVENC = 0:47, VEGA 64 LQ VCE = 0:48, N = 2% faster

Sample Project 4K to 2160p UHD 25 fps MP4
RTX 3060 Ti NVENC = 1:20, VEGA 64 LQ VCE = 1:38, N = 18% faster

Sample Project 4K to 2160p UHD 25 fps HEVC
RTX 3060 Ti NVENC = 1:28, VEGA 64 LQ VCE = 1:36, N = 8% faster

Preview FPS between markers in 4K Sample Project = 12-13 fps average, VEGA = 13

1 Minute Sample from a Client's Project to 4K HEVC
RTX 3060 Ti NVENC = 1:35, VEGA 64 LQ VCE = 1:19, N = 17% slower

(4) open instances of Vegas rendering 16 minute project to 2 intermediates, 4K HEVC, 1080p MP4
3060 Ti NVENC = 29 minutes, MP4 & HEVC done in 28
VEGA 64 LQ VCE = 29 minutes, MP4 & HEVC done in 25, N = 10% slower

(4) open instances of Vegas rendering (4) different 16 minute 4K segments to 1080p MP4
3060 Ti could only render (3) MP4 at once in 24:03, trying to start a 4th was restricted / impossible...
VEGA 64 LQ rendered all (4) MP4 in 22:01, 8% faster

Flight Simulator 2020: 3060 Ti = 40 fps 4K (high), 60 fps 1440p (high), 50 fps 1080p (ultra)
. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .VEGA 64 = 24 fps 4K (high), 45 fps 1440p (high), 42 fps 1080p (ultra)

Power Consumption: Regardless the GPU, the UPS powering the workstation, (2) 4K monitors & a 10G switch drew about 300W average during the (4) renders-at-once scenario...

12/21/2020 Update & Conclusion: Overall, if Vegas is your primary app, the 3060 Ti is NOT an upgrade from a VEGA 64, Radeon VII, 2070 Super, etc. BUT it is a modern $400 equivalent with some room to improve as drivers & apps are updated. IMO it is a good bang/buck at $400. In most other benchmarks, especially 1440p & 4K games, it outperforms the similarly priced AMD RX 5700 XT "Little Navi". I don't have time to buy & test other GPUs, so we'll have to see others' benchmark results to see if the other Nvidia 3xxx or AMD Big Navi GPUs are worth the price difference... I DO like Flight Simulator 2020 & revisiting some places I've been, so I might try a 3080 or 3090 if I can find one available...

More info about Vegas benchmarking here:
https://www.vegascreativesoftware.info/us/forum/benchmarking-results-continued--118503/

Comments

lenard wrote on 12/19/2020, 4:17 PM

I think the card should be faster but it still seems useable, which is different to the impression I was given by 3080 and 3090 owners. I missed out on a good deal on a 3070 just last night due to the belief it would be unusable in current version of vegas

Yelandkeil wrote on 12/20/2020, 5:13 AM

@TheRhino, do you have a chance to test the RTX 2080Ti vs RTX 3070? On eBay there are some 2080Ti-cards fairly cheap.

lenard wrote on 12/20/2020, 5:49 AM

@Yelandkeil In video editors that really take advantage of GPU, 3070 is about 13% slower than 2080ti. 2080ti is the better card for video editing. People have theorised that the sole reason for the poor performance of 3070 in video editors is due to memory bandwidth constraints in comparison to 2080ti. When we consider 2060ti has same memory bandwidth of 3070, we should see it better match the 2080super as we need less bandwidth for it being a slower card. What i'm suggesting to you @Yelandkeil is that 3060ti could be one of the best value cards for video editing, and if you want a dramatic leap in performance go 3080. 3070 will still give better performance but won't be proportional as you may think.

Howard-Vigorita wrote on 12/22/2020, 3:50 PM

@TheRhino thanks for posting this. Very promising for the possibility of using a 3080 or 3090 variant which a couple other users were not able to get running with Vegas.

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TheRhino wrote on 12/22/2020, 6:49 PM

@Howard-Vigorita If you know someone who has a 3080 or 3090 ask them to download the latest 12-15 drivers & run the Vegas benchmarks. Vegas works using the latest 3060 Ti driver, so I would think the same would be true across the 3xxx series...

lenard wrote on 12/22/2020, 7:13 PM

@TheRhino They work, but they work slowly in Vp18, it's the same problem you're seeing. Vegas have to update their software for new cards. As example 3080 performing slower than owners 2080ti. Someone with VP14 said their 3000 series card didn't' show up so maybe drivers could help there

TheRhino wrote on 1/1/2021, 10:14 AM

Puget Systems just posted RTX 3060 Ti reviews that show great bang/buck performance for this $400 GPU...
https://www.pugetsystems.com/labs/articles/NVIDIA-GeForce-RTX-3060-Ti-Review-Roundup-2027/

In some tests it compared to a 2080 Ti or even a RTX 3070 which cost 50+% more... For instance, in DaVinci Resolve it is 2X as fast as a RX 5700 XT, the SAME speed as a RTX 3070 / 6800 XT, with only the much pricier RTX 3080 and RTX 3090 besting its performance for now...

Apps that do not utilize CUDA / OpenCL to their full potential will not see an immediate benefit, but the power is there if/when an app supports it... IMO, at just $400, the 3060 Ti becomes the best bang/buck GPU for a new Vegas, Premiere, DaVinci workstation & hopefully new updates and/or new releases of Vegas will fully utilize its potential. If not, it's no worse than the previous generation of GPUs - which I demonstrated in my original post...

Although I'm keeping my VEGA 64 LQ in my 9900K workstation because it does not block the adjacent PCIe slot, I'm keeping the 3060 Ti for another workstation upgrade. The motherboards I am looking at do not have a PCIe x16 next to the GPU...

R6VegasX wrote on 1/31/2021, 10:02 PM

Hey guys, sorry to hijack but does Vegas 18 pro support the 3070 (or rather 3070 mobile in my case)? I recently got a new asus rog strix g15 2021 with an rtx 3070 mobile and rendering is slow via nvenc. Around 20 mins for a 20 minute 1080p video. On my home pc my 2070 super can do it in 10 minutes.

RogerS wrote on 1/31/2021, 10:32 PM

@R6VegasX For mobile systems it may also be limited by available power and heat-related throttling. Are you watching temperatures and watts used while rendering?

lenard wrote on 2/2/2021, 9:51 PM

@TheRhino are you using voukoder with those nvenc tests, if not. can you do a comparison to see if there's a big speed difference using latest version and connector. Voukoder will always be faster but interested if there's an out of the ordinary jump in speed

TheRhino wrote on 2/3/2021, 4:22 PM

@TheRhino are you using voukoder with those nvenc tests...

Sorry, I can no longer run the tests... I decided not to upgrade a 2nd Vegas workstation due to the need to upgrade my Apple hardware... The 3060 Ti's fans blocked my adjacent PCIe slot, it wasn't any faster in Vegas than my VEGA 64 LQ, so I returned it (and likely made some gamer very happy...) This year I'm getting more work that requires ProRes RAW & BRAW support and FCP collaboration so I am forced to replace my aging Mac Pro with something more capable, probably an iMac using my TB3 RAIDs, 'cause I can't justify the price of the new Mac Pro 2019 series...