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Gid wrote on 5/25/2023, 7:20 AM

@beaverbrook Hi, can you show a picture with it on the Pan/crop

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beaverbrook wrote on 5/25/2023, 7:53 AM

Gid wrote on 5/25/2023, 8:48 AM

 Hi, sometimes problems like this can be because the media is the wrong size in Pan/crop, but I tried it out in the pictures below so I don't think that's the reason for the problem.

Original

Match to output Aspect ratio the size/height would have to be corrected,

I copy the height from the original then paste after Match to output Aspect ratio

@beaverbrook Hi, you have another fx added to the project,?

& this should maybe have been continued in your previous post about the same or similar matter, It doesn't feel like this is the full story? https://www.vegascreativesoftware.info/us/forum/picture-in-picture--141060/

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set wrote on 5/25/2023, 8:50 AM

Oops - sorry, I misread

Edit: I remove my comment to prevent confusion

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3POINT wrote on 5/25/2023, 9:44 AM

When I compare both screen shots from first post and this post, I could imagine that @beaverbrook messed around with trackmotion or applied also a PIPfx to the preview.

 

Gid wrote on 5/25/2023, 10:11 AM

@3POINT Hi, adding some Track Motion is the only way I can make this happen, but adding PinP to the preview affects everything & there's no keyframe gap below his top track to indicate Track Motion has changed,

(your second pic is tiny)

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Gid wrote on 5/25/2023, 10:20 AM

@set @3POINT @beaverbrook

Why is the top of the timeline & number like this?

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Gid wrote on 5/25/2023, 12:15 PM

@Yelandkeil Thanks 👍

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beaverbrook wrote on 5/26/2023, 4:28 AM

When I compare both screen shots from first post and this post, I could imagine that @beaverbrook messed around with trackmotion or applied also a PIPfx to the preview.

 

My original problem involved messing around with track motion, yes. But let's start over again...

I deleted all tracks and added them again. The first thing I see, is that the video preview window is small. Although the picture is a reasonable size within the small window.



After doing that basic action, I add the "Picture In Picture" to the top picture track and then get this.


So the picture seems to get smaller, while the small video preview window stays the same.
I haven't added anything else beyond this point or messing with any buttons or settings that I am aware of.

beaverbrook wrote on 5/26/2023, 4:35 AM

 Hi, sometimes problems like this can be because the media is the wrong size in Pan/crop, but I tried it out in the pictures below so I don't think that's the reason for the problem.

Original

Match to output Aspect ratio the size/height would have to be corrected,

I copy the height from the original then paste after Match to output Aspect ratio

@beaverbrook Hi, you have another fx added to the project,?

& this should maybe have been continued in your previous post about the same or similar matter, It doesn't feel like this is the full story? https://www.vegascreativesoftware.info/us/forum/picture-in-picture--141060/

Yes, I did have a track mothion FX in there.
I wish there were a list that showed ALL the FX in the entire project, so I don't miss anything.

Regardless, if I delete it, or even delete everything and start over, I still get the same problem as before. The image is small and the Picture and Picture does not wrap around the object for manipulation.

EricLNZ wrote on 5/26/2023, 4:38 AM

It is difficult to be sure but it looks like you may have Video FX applied to the tracks?

 

3POINT wrote on 5/26/2023, 5:00 AM



I deleted all tracks and added them again. The first thing I see, is that the video preview window is small. Although the picture is a reasonable size within the small window.



 

As I mentioned before, you probably also applied PIPFX to the preview. That is what your preview shows.

Check the applied preview FX:

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beaverbrook wrote on 5/26/2023, 5:02 AM

Ok, I scrapped everything and started a new project.
The first thing I did was put this mp4 into the timeline. For some reason, some of the picture is blacked out.

This might be the root of the problem.

Gid wrote on 5/26/2023, 5:20 AM

 

My original problem involved messing around with track motion, yes. But let's start over again...

I deleted all tracks and added them again. The first thing I see, is that the video preview window is small. Although the picture is a reasonable size within the small window.



After doing that basic action, I add the "Picture In Picture" to the top picture track and then get this.


So the picture seems to get smaller, while the small video preview window stays the same.
I haven't added anything else beyond this point or messing with any buttons or settings that I am aware of.

@beaverbrook You've done ore than just add PinP, as mentioned you've got an FX applied to both tracks, the gap at the bottom of track 1 implies some Track Motion has been added, & there's an FX added to the project, shown on the fx with a blue circle at he top of the preview window.

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j-v wrote on 5/26/2023, 5:21 AM

And how does it go if you start a new project after set in the menu View/Window Layouts to the Default Layout?

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Gid wrote on 5/26/2023, 5:26 AM

Ok, I scrapped everything and started a new project.
The first thing I did was put this mp4 into the timeline. For some reason, some of the picture is blacked out.

This might be the root of the problem.

@beaverbrook You two commented while i was typing,

Again there's more added, there's an fx on track 1 & the gap under track 1 shows Track Motion is added,

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beaverbrook wrote on 5/26/2023, 6:29 AM

And how does it go if you start a new project after set in the menu View/Window Layouts to the Default Layout?

If I start from defualt window and start new project and add in the two assets and try not to change anything I get a small preview because the crop is all weird and messed up and I have no idea why.

*edit* I tried to record with Vegas, it makes no difference at all. The video is still loaded with a messed up crop.

Dexcon wrote on 5/26/2023, 6:48 AM

Just as a matter of interest, does the imported image have the same size (e.g.1920x1080, 3840x2160 etc) as your project's size as per Project Properties? If not, has "Adjust source media to better match project or render settings" been checked 'on' in Project Properties before importing that image onto the timeline?

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j-v wrote on 5/26/2023, 6:56 AM

And how does it go if you start a new project after set in the menu View/Window Layouts to the Default Layout?

If I start from defualt window and start new project and add in the two assets and try not to change anything I get a small preview because the crop is all weird and messed up and I have no idea why.

Both Videotracks have a crop function, very strange because I'm not seeing that at using the default lay-out.
Did you already did a complete reset of Vegas?

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beaverbrook wrote on 5/26/2023, 7:47 AM

Just as a matter of interest, does the imported image have the same size (e.g.1920x1080, 3840x2160 etc) as your project's size as per Project Properties? If not, has "Adjust source media to better match project or render settings" been checked 'on' in Project Properties before importing that image onto the timeline?

The image is 512x512, so it is square and not 1920x1080 like the project.

Yes, I do have "Adjust source media to better match project or render settings" checked to "on".

beaverbrook wrote on 5/26/2023, 7:48 AM

And how does it go if you start a new project after set in the menu View/Window Layouts to the Default Layout?

If I start from defualt window and start new project and add in the two assets and try not to change anything I get a small preview because the crop is all weird and messed up and I have no idea why.

Both Videotracks have a crop function, very strange because I'm not seeing that at using the default lay-out.
Did you already did a complete reset of Vegas?

Ok, so that is not normal? Nice to know.
Every time I add a video track, there is a "crop" effect added and I does not give an option to delete it.
I don't know what "a complete reset" means. I started a "new" project. Do I have to do a reset?

Dexcon wrote on 5/26/2023, 7:55 AM

Do I have to do a reset?

No, but it might help - https://www.vegascreativesoftware.info/us/forum/faq-how-can-i-reset-vegas-pro-to-default-settings--104646/

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Gid wrote on 5/26/2023, 7:55 AM

@beaverbrook Hi, if I do this in the picture, right click - Set Default Track Properties with Crop applied on the track, when I open a new project Crop is already applied, Tick Restore Original Defaults to get rid of that Crop FX

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