Hi, thanks for your advice. I have updated my signature and added screen shots as suggested.

I sorted a work-around in the meatime - I rendered the stills track by itself and added the .mp4 file as another track (not shown below).

Dave G

The track on which the stills are located is muted. Click on the 'M' in the track header to activate the track.

Ah sorry, it happened to be muted when I took the screen shot - the problem persists when unmuted. 😳

The correct image:

@DavidFG 

Try again pls.

Shared picture is too small, everything is blurred when that shared picture is enlarged. There's an image in the Vegas preview even tho you say it renders black? & the timeline cursor isn't seen on the timeline?. People will help but that picture tells the members nothing.

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I rendered the stills track by itself and added the .mp4 file as another track

The second picture looks the same as the first except the track is unmuted. Where's the mp4 of the rendered stills? Also you said the pictures rendered 'blank' so how did you render it.. ? 🤷‍♂️

A better pic below. Forget the renedered stills track - that is a separate workaround. The issue is that the stills track won't render when included in the render of the full movie even though they show in the preview prior to render. Also, see previous post for render settings.

It is curious however, that when rendered alone, the stills track renders ok. Is the problem because of the different source formats between the video track and the stills track?

Dave G

@DavidFG Thanks better picture but still doesn't say much.

Click the three dots on the track header - 'Edit visible buttons'. There maybe a Compositing option chosen or an fx you've accidently dropped on a track.., showing more buttons helps recognise that.. (red arrow pointing to Compositing mode)

Like this

@DavidFG Ok just to be clear, I'm still on VP22 so can't test any issues with VP23. I posted above to help you to others to help you.. if that makes sense 🤣

• The Pictures you shared that I've quoted look normal enough, I don't see anything that would cause your render problem.
• You're using VP23 on Windows 11, that's not a problem but it's poss your GPU or driver are causing problems. -
• Try disabling your GPU in Preferences - General &/or also in File IO so VP23 uses your CPU (IGPU) to render.
• The render options have (NVENC) & Mainconcept, try both.. (This window is different in VP23 but I don't know if the 'Customize Template has changed)..
• Update or roll back your Driver. There's been posts about issues with 591.44 (or 591.94🤷‍♂️)
• Share the properties of the images you're trying to render, maybe there's something about those causing problems. Right click the image - Properties.

@DavidFG Consider converting your HEIC stills to anything else per the comments in this thread:

https://www.vegascreativesoftware.info/us/forum/heic-problems-vegas-pro-22-194--148123/#ca931592

@DavidFG Very strange. Is there a reason that you have your stills on Track 4 instead of Track 3?

@DavidFG Very strange. Is there a reason that you have your stills on Track 4 instead of Track 3?

Only because track 3 and 4 are associated (grouped).

@DavidFG Very strange. Is there a reason that you have your stills on Track 4 instead of Track 3?

Only because track 3 and 4 are associated (grouped).

The tracks are not grouped in your images?

PS. There's no reason why you can't have your images on track 4, I don't want to spk for him but I think EricLNZ was just curious..

It is curious however, that when rendered alone, the stills track renders ok. Is the problem because of the different source formats between the video track and the stills track?

I wouldn't have thought source differences would make any difference, but It is interesting that it is your images that don't render & they are on a separate track, that sort of implies it's a track issue of some kind, Compositing maybe..?

FYI, image properties below. I will try jpg versions in due course.

FYI, image properties below. I will try jpg versions in due course.

@DavidFG

It is curious however, that when rendered alone, the stills track renders ok

If you can render them 'alone' then trying jpg prob won't resolve your issue.. I could be wrong.

@Gid Correct. I was just curious but like you I wonder if it's a track issue.

@DavidFG Please post full Media info on one of your HEIC files - it gives much more info. Instructions here https://www.vegascreativesoftware.info/us/forum/faq-how-to-post-mediainfo-and-vegas-pro-file-properties--104561/ Alternatively if you have MPC-HC or MPC-BE players their File/Properties pane gives the same info.

@Gid Correct. I was just curious but like you I wonder if it's a track issue.

@DavidFG Please post full Media info on one of your HEIC files - it gives much more info. Instructions here https://www.vegascreativesoftware.info/us/forum/faq-how-to-post-mediainfo-and-vegas-pro-file-properties--104561/ Alternatively if you have MPC-HC or MPC-BE players their File/Properties pane gives the same info.

From MediaInfo:

Codec ID                                 : heic (mif1/MiHE/MiPr/miaf/MiHB/heic)
File size                                : 2.56 MiB
Recorded date                            : 2024-11-25 18:13:07.818+10:00
Encoded date                             : 2024-11-25 18:13:07+10:00
Mastered date                            : 2024-11-25 18:13:07.818+10:00
Recorded location                        : 27°12'55.49"S 153°22'12.04"E -0.69431m
Writing application                      : Apple iOS 18.1.1
Writing hardware                         : Apple iPhone 13
Default                                  : No / No
Describes for                            : 63 / 49
ColorTemperature                         : 5359 K
CameraType                               : Back Normal
ShutterSpeed_Time                        : 1/2268 s
IrisFNumber                              : 1.6
AutoExposureMode                         : Program AE
ISOSensitivity                           : 50
ExposureBiasValue                        : 0
Flash                                    : Off, Did not fire
LensZoomActualFocalLength                : 5.1 mm
AutoWhiteBalanceMode                     : Auto
LensZoom35mmStillCameraEquivalent        : 26 mm
LensMake                                 : Apple
LensModel                                : iPhone 13 back dual wide camera 5.1mm f/1.6

I'd also try the following to try and get to the bottom of the track mystery.

1. Move the stills up to Track 3 with the video clips and render to see if the stills appear
2. Put something else, maybe one of the video clips, on Track 4 and render to see if it appears.

Thanks everyone - I'll experiment some more and get back to you in due course.

Dave G

@DavidFG What Eric says &/or if you do want your images on a separate track, drag your images down onto track 5, delete track 4. This will put them on a fresh track that has no added 'stuff' (track 5 will get renamed as track 4 when you delete the orig track 4). If the images still don't render it could mean there's something on tracks 1,2 & 3 that are causing the problem.

@DavidFG This image puzzles me, it goes against any 'track issue' I've mentioned. The image is clearly showing, there's nothing in the tracks above preventing it from showing so it should render.

Maybe it is a HEIC problem, maybe NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1660 SUPER doesn't like iPhone High efficiency formats but that's not what Google says .

Google - AI Overview

Yes, the iPhone's High Efficiency formats (HEIF and HEVC) are 

compatible with the GTX 1660 Super, which includes dedicated hardware acceleration for both encoding and decoding. This means your graphics card can efficiently process these files for viewing, editing, and streaming on a Windows PC. 

@Gid We could end the speculation about the relationship between Tracks 3 and 4 if @DavidFG would upload the Vegas Pro project file (no media required) to a cloud sharing site (Google Drive, OneDrive, etc.) and post the link...

... for us to analyze.

Here you go ...

https://1drv.ms/u/c/342296c440800015/IQD6M3iWM78sT4q3mhHtVhOjAQo5b1VqVZoStgDkkCL8dC0

@DavidFG The Stills track in your veggie was muted!