Reversal of MagicYUV rendered results in AWOL Media.

Grazie wrote on 11/15/2021, 11:24 AM

OK, I started this research as part of another Post, which was in itself a CallOut to others if they could replicate my observations when using the Reverse option in the Drop Down Event Menu.

Observation: When "Reversing" a Rendered MagicYUV RGBA the media would go AWOL.

Outcome: Today I've been in touch with the author of MagicYUV, Balázs Oroszi, who has told me this:

The reversing bug affects the MagicYUV Vegas Pro PLUGINS. It happens with VP17 (build 455), VP18 (build 527), VP19 (build 424).

Also this:

As an additional note I couldn't find anything in the plugin SDK with regards to reversing, and my plugin logs show nothing special either. The reversed media simply turns up as empty frame for me.

So, what I had unwittingly stumbled on was a Reversing Bug that needs the specific input from Team-Vegas to assist Balázs Oroszi. Needless to say, MagicYUV is mustard at rendering and produces ALPHA. If I wish to reverse that output then I'd need to reach out to VASST's Video Overlay, which will reverse nicely. The Reverse option in the Menu isn't at fault, rather it's the SDK for reversing that is at issue here.

I hope @VEGASDerek et al can asist Balázs Oroszi to get this to work.

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Selina wrote on 2/28/2022, 8:10 AM

@Grazie I can see that you're passionate so I don't accept that you don't want bug-free software like the rest of us. Twenty years is a long time on this one issue? What was I doing 20-years ago - oh yes ... running around in mini skirts. No, that was 30-years. My how time flies.

diverG wrote on 2/28/2022, 10:41 AM

Thank you all. Best thread in years.

Another 'oldie'

john_dennis wrote on 3/9/2022, 8:47 PM

@Grazie

This issue is resolved for me in Vegas Pro 19-532.

Grazie wrote on 3/9/2022, 11:22 PM

@john_dennis - 😁 Luv it! A great trick that. OK, what was your B532 Download experience? Was it straightforward? How long? Others have been having issues.

john_dennis wrote on 3/9/2022, 11:43 PM

@Grazie

I rarely download a new release on the first day, but I started the download and went about doing other things. The download was apparently throttled per connection to 1 Mbps by the load on the server(s). Both my workstation and laptop downloads eventually finished, and installations went smoothly.

Grazie wrote on 3/10/2022, 12:20 AM

@john_dennis - Thanks, however, I’m getting advice to Block this download. See my other thread on this. I’ve never had this with an Official site.

Dexcon wrote on 3/10/2022, 12:39 AM

I’m getting advice to Block this download.

Was it Windows doing the blocking?

On downloading VPb523 and the Neat update over the last 2 days, Windows has wanted to block both downloads. Clicking on the little download window at the top RH corner of Edge, there are 3 little dots which, when clicked on, has the option of "download anyway" - the downloading then completed. However, with the Neat download, Norton 360 then wanted to block it and there was more clicking needed in order to keep the DL. Grrr!

RogerS wrote on 3/10/2022, 1:08 AM

For me it's the browser and seems to be due to http vs s.

Grazie wrote on 3/10/2022, 1:24 AM

@RogerS - I’m now using the VP in-app Updating option. V…e…r…y slow…..

Grazie wrote on 3/10/2022, 2:44 AM

@john_dennis - No success to using the Reverse within the Drop Down Menu:

Arggghh.. Using the Set Velocity Envelope to Negative, -100%, then yes.

Very odd.

This is not User Expectations.

john_dennis wrote on 3/10/2022, 9:49 AM

@Grazie @MagicYUV

I tested reversing with MagicYUV RGBA this morning on my workstation. It's working.

Grazie wrote on 3/10/2022, 12:11 PM

@john_dennis - Sure, I see that. When I use the SAME MAGICYUV RGBA which reverses, using a Reversed Velocity Envelope, does NOT Reverse when I use the Menu Reverse. Mad!

Selina wrote on 3/10/2022, 2:52 PM

I can't get it to work either - no matter what I try or what rendering settings I set... 😩

Grazie wrote on 3/11/2022, 5:01 AM

@john_dennis - Re-checked and the Menu >> Reverse makes the Video Event disappear:

Before I use the Menu >> Reverse it looks like this:

When I use the -100% Velocity Envelope it works. This proves that the rendering is good-to-go in all respects.

Grazie wrote on 3/11/2022, 8:16 AM

@john_dennis - I uninstalled and then reinstalled Magic YUV. Rendered to MagicYUV 8-bit RGBA, the same result.

john_dennis wrote on 3/11/2022, 12:01 PM

@Grazie

Do you want to meet in the pub and compare system configurations line by line?

Grazie wrote on 3/11/2022, 12:03 PM

@john_dennis -Thought you’d never ask. So, mildly seriously, you’re putting this down to sysconfig?

Former user wrote on 3/11/2022, 12:32 PM

@john_dennis Hi, just looking at your vid & my render options are different, ?

If i use the MagicYUV RGBA further up i get the event going blank like @Grazie when adding Reverse,

Adding a Velocity Envelope it reverses no prob,

Grazie wrote on 3/11/2022, 1:00 PM

@Former user - RGBA or RGB I still get AWOL. And yes, as I said, Velocity at -100 it reverses fine.

Former user wrote on 3/11/2022, 1:26 PM

- RGBA or RGB I still get AWOL. And yes, as I said, Velocity at -100 it reverses fine.

@Grazie yep i was just confirming i can with an envelope too 👍

Grazie wrote on 3/11/2022, 1:33 PM

@Former user - 🙏

john_dennis wrote on 3/11/2022, 2:54 PM

@Former user @Grazie

I 'spect that I didn't use the MagicYUV menu is because I don't have a MagicYUV menu.

I do, however have these installation files.

Former user wrote on 3/11/2022, 3:26 PM

@john_dennis yep i did notice you don't have a MagicYUV menu, that's why i shared a pic of your vid 😉 Yep i have those files, I wonder then why you don't have a MagicYUV menu 🤔

Grazie wrote on 3/11/2022, 3:34 PM

@Former user & @john_dennis I don’t pick up Magic thru’ VfW! I pick it up through the Magic Window option. I think we’ve got convergence of error here.