Slow Render problem!

j-v wrote on 5/12/2020, 1:56 AM

https://www.vegascreativesoftware.info/us/forum/important-information-required-to-help-you--110457/

Stefanos-RoussosMolfetas wrote on 5/12/2020, 10:21 AM

https://www.vegascreativesoftware.info/us/forum/important-information-required-to-help-you--110457/

Sorry it does not work at all, it is still stuck, in fact with those settings it takes more time now.

michael-harrison wrote on 5/12/2020, 10:36 AM

@Stefanos-RoussosMolfetas those aren't "settings" that's a list of information you need to supply for people here to help you

VEGASDerek wrote on 5/12/2020, 10:38 AM

We need to know details on the media in your project, the format you are rendering to, the template you are using, as well as system information such as CPU, GPU and the amount of RAM you have. You have given no useful information that we can use to help you.

Stefanos-RoussosMolfetas wrote on 5/12/2020, 1:45 PM

Sorry, I forgot.
My specs are the followed

Operating System
   Windows 10 Home 64-bit
CPU
   Intel Core i7 @ 3.70GHz   35 °C
   Coffee Lake 14nm Technology
RAM
   64,0GB Dual-Channel Unknown @ 400MHz (16-18-18-36)
Motherboard
   Gigabyte Technology Co. Ltd. Z370 AORUS Gaming 7 (U3E1)   38 °C
Graphics
   C24F390 (1920x1080@60Hz)
   SAMSUNG (3840x2160@30Hz)
   3071MB NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1080 Ti (Gigabyte)   40 °C
Storage
   931GB TOSHIBA DT01ACA100 (SATA )   28 °C
   3726GB Western Digital WDC WD40EZRZ-75GXCB0 (SATA )   26 °C
   465GB Samsung SSD 960 EVO 500GB (Unknown (SSD))
   3725GB Western Digital WD My Passport 25E2 USB Device (USB (SATA) (SSD))   35 °C
   465GB Hitachi HGST HTS 545050A7E380 USB Device (USB (SATA) )   34 °C
   1862GB Western Digital WD Elements 25A2 USB Device (USB (SATA) )   33 °C
   3726GB Intenso External USB 3.0 SCSI Disk Device (USB )
   4657GB Seagate BUP SL SCSI Disk Device (USB (SATA) )   33 °C
   29GB JetFlash Transcend 32GB USB Device (USB )
Optical Drives
   HL-DT-ST BDDVDRW CH10LS20
Audio
   NVIDIA High Definition Audio

j-v wrote on 5/12/2020, 1:55 PM

That is a nice computer, but you don't tell which media ( MediaInfo) you are using and were it is stored on that computer, nothing about your projectproperties and nothing about your used rendertemplate.
Which driverversion exactly is loaded for your Nvidia GTX 1080 Ti?

Stefanos-RoussosMolfetas wrote on 5/12/2020, 2:28 PM

The system and the program in a SSD Hardrive and sorry for the incovindience, most of thsese stuff are new to me and thanks for your time.

Here it is

General
Complete name : K:\Μιξαρισμενοι κωδικοι\5170Α Ready.mp4
Format : MPEG-4
Format profile : Base Media / Version 2
Codec ID : mp42 (isom/mp42)
File size : 190 MiB
Duration : 3 min 41 s
Overall bit rate mode : Variable
Overall bit rate : 7 189 kb/s
Encoded date : UTC 2020-05-11 22:02:55
Tagged date : UTC 2020-05-11 22:02:55

Video
ID : 1
Format : AVC
Format/Info : Advanced Video Codec
Format profile : Baseline@L4
Format settings : 1 Ref Frames
Format settings, CABAC : No
Format settings, Reference frames : 1 frame
Format settings, GOP : M=1, N=30
Codec ID : avc1
Codec ID/Info : Advanced Video Coding
Duration : 3 min 41 s
Bit rate : 6 996 kb/s
Width : 1 920 pixels
Height : 1 080 pixels
Display aspect ratio : 16:9
Frame rate mode : Constant
Frame rate : 29.970 (30000/1001) FPS
Color space : YUV
Chroma subsampling : 4:2:0
Bit depth : 8 bits
Scan type : Progressive
Bits/(Pixel*Frame) : 0.113
Stream size : 185 MiB (97%)
Language : English
Encoded date : UTC 2020-05-11 22:02:56
Tagged date : UTC 2020-05-11 22:02:56
Codec configuration box : avcC

Audio
ID : 2
Format : AAC LC
Format/Info : Advanced Audio Codec Low Complexity
Codec ID : mp4a-40-2
Duration : 3 min 41 s
Bit rate mode : Variable
Bit rate : 192 kb/s
Maximum bit rate : 313 kb/s
Channel(s) : 2 channels
Channel layout : L R
Sampling rate : 48.0 kHz
Frame rate : 46.875 FPS (1024 SPF)
Compression mode : Lossy
Stream size : 5.01 MiB (3%)
Language : English
Encoded date : UTC 2020-05-11 22:02:56
Tagged date : UTC 2020-05-11 22:02:56

Stefanos-RoussosMolfetas wrote on 5/12/2020, 2:33 PM

Also my settings are the those

walter-i. wrote on 5/12/2020, 2:58 PM

In my opinion there are some differences:
Footage is 1920X1080 - Project properties are 1440x1080 (set it to 1920x1080)
Custom Settings: once "Variable Bit Rate" and under RC mode "CBR" (set under RC mode "VBR")
I think, the bit rate is to low (max 10.000.000, min. 8.000.000) set it to max. 40.000.000, min. 20.000.000
Preferences: The "File I / O"-tab would be interesting - please show us a screenshot

Stefanos-RoussosMolfetas wrote on 5/12/2020, 3:19 PM

Sadly back to 40+

j-v wrote on 5/12/2020, 3:34 PM

Nothing wrong with the choosen bitrate for HEVC because the source has lower bitrate for AVC.
HEVC can get at least a 20% lower bitrate.
The projectsettings seem totally wrong.
Set your project this

In order to let the Nvidia do its job good for acceleration and encoding it is important to use the best drivers. I did ask you but you don't tell us.

Stefanos-RoussosMolfetas wrote on 5/12/2020, 3:46 PM

I am sorry, I am editing while I write here , I use the default ones that you get from their site, unless there other drivers that I should be aware of.

j-v wrote on 5/12/2020, 3:56 PM

You are showing here all that you have installed from Nvidia and that all you don't need for Vegas Pro 17.
You have to look for the latest Nvidia Studio driver and you must install only those drivers for stabil working with an edit program like Vegas.
Search for this

and you will find this

Install only the videodrivers with a clean install.

PS.

Render not to your documents with that is on the C:/ location.
Render to another disc or partition with enough space.
Also for velocity it is better to store your sourcefiles on another disc with enough space, not an USB location.

Stefanos-RoussosMolfetas wrote on 5/12/2020, 5:31 PM

Done but it is nowhere near the old speeds, it has improved but not that much.

j-v wrote on 5/12/2020, 6:04 PM

That it looks not to me.
As I see your estimated filesize of 3GB with the template you showed before, your project must be about 54 minutes long with the rendertemplate you showed. But the lenght of the project you never told or showed us, only that it was "Slow Render" from the title of your post.
A 40 minutes render is pretty fast for such a project, much faster than realtime rendering.
I cannot help you further because that is also the limit with me and VPro 17 on my laptop.
BTW. I don't think Vegas 15 can render it in 20 minutes as you stated in your O.P.

Stefanos-RoussosMolfetas wrote on 5/12/2020, 6:30 PM

25, I mean it is a lot quicker then 38 or 40.
I can not accept that the new version is slower then the old one.

Former user wrote on 5/12/2020, 9:18 PM

I tried a basic transcode with vp17. for 25min 1080p30fps AVC video encoded to 1080p30fps HEVC(Nvenc) it takes 9min. Any VFX will increase the time. my cpu is i7 4core, same speed as yours

Stefanos-RoussosMolfetas wrote on 5/12/2020, 9:33 PM

The clips I use are already edited and rendered individually before the final render, at the end I just put them together, the only extras are a looped music and 2 pnd images that shows some phone number and a youtube chanel, but I dought those can put such a burden to the project.