time for those Vegas 7 wishes...

CDM wrote on 11/3/2005, 5:09 AM

Please post feature requests/comments ABOUT listed feature requests here. Please don't start getting into arguments which will deflect the attention away from this list.

Mine:

Editing / Workflow:

- pencil tool for envelopes
- eraser tool for quick deletion of material
- slip tool that would slip the material inside the event so that the left edge stays put, but the right edge moves with the slip - essentially allowing for the start material to be changed but the end of the event stays the same.
- an auto-quantize feature which would differentiate between editing audio and editing video. Quantize always on with video. Quantize off for audio (unless you want it)
- Ripple edit: can someone tell me when I would want the following to occur?

aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa cccccccccccccccccc
bbbbbbbbbb
dddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddd

why, when I trim event "a" back, does event "b" move too? I know you've explained the "logic" of this, but I don't see when you'd ever actually want that to happen? I would only expect items that end after the event I'm trimming to move. Furthermore, if the situation looks like this:

aaaaaaaa
bbbbbbbbbbbb

and I trim "a" back, b doesn't move. Why? and again, why would I want it to anyway?

- Trim Silence feature
- apply non-realtime effects preview that would play the event in context of the project.
- a "consolidate events" feature, for comping vocals or voice tracks. Instead of rendering to a new track.

Global Behavior -
- mono button on Busses
- True solo behavior (solo=solo, no pre-volume effect sends in the solo mix!)
- a find and relink right-click context option in the Project Media for offline media.
- previewing on an External Monitor still drifts for me. Not by much, but when playin back for more than a couple of minutes, I need to hit stop and start again to reset sync. Sync is fine with WSD.
- track freeze feature
- the ability to lock events but still make them trimmable, asr fadeable, etc.
- extract entire cds with regions.
- save and trim as .veg (trims all surrounding events, preserves envelopes and effects, flushes media pool, and moves new selection to beginning of project and saveas as new nestable "scene")
- Keyframe style effect automation
- VU meters
- Pitch envelopes
- while you're at it, time compress expand envelopes... :) Oh, and BETTER time compression.
- drag and drop effect chain from one track to another
- lockable track heights.
- the ability to save snapshots and copy snapshots from the trimmer view
- a "Force Relink" button in the Project Media view that would bring up the offline media dialog so you can search and relink with local media instead of media that might be on a network drive - this would be very helpful for entire projects that get copied across a network but still link back to the network path like \\cdm\projects\ etc.

more to come. I'm sure.

thanks for listening.

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BrianStanding wrote on 11/3/2005, 2:43 PM

- the ability to create a new .sfvidcap batch capture list of just the media on the timeline to streamline archiving
- the ability to re-order clips in the Project Media window, preview them in sequence, then load them to the timeline (i.e., A STORYBOARD!)
- keep preset names in FX windows after they've been selected

winrockpost wrote on 11/3/2005, 2:49 PM

ya know, reading these posts its pretty obvious that a few editors out there have sony vegas playin catch up, Edius for sure, out of three editors in my little world 2 have jumped ship, and i am real close,50/50 vegas 5 and edius , I'm a litle more stubborn, trying to stay with Vegas but I feel they are falling behind, rather quickly,
sonic foundry vegas always seemed a step ahead,
IMHO

mark-woollard wrote on 11/3/2005, 4:36 PM

One -touch white balance by clicking on a white object in the scene.

Independent line by line text formatting in scrolling credits.

"Type on" text effect.

Input and output monitors for two-clip colour matching and tail/head trimming.

All of HD Connect's latest functions, including simultaneous capture/convert (I realize there would be a cost factor but hopefully less than standalone HD Connect, e.g. for Direct Show licensing).

Yoyodyne wrote on 11/3/2005, 5:13 PM

winrock, just curious - I've not played with Edius since it was a very basic app years ago. What's the word on it? I've been so Vegas centric for the last year I've kind of lost touch with what else is being offered out there.

How is Vegas falling behind?

kentwolf wrote on 11/3/2005, 5:55 PM

>>I have to admit 6c is working pretty well...

Take a look at:

http://www.sonymediasoftware.com/forums/ShowMessage.asp?ForumID=4&MessageID=420266

rmack350 wrote on 11/3/2005, 6:03 PM

Capturing stills:
Why must still image capture be dependent on the preview window size. I realize that these are captures of a buffer but why can't Vegas temporarily switch to full rez when grabbing a frame?

Importing stills
This is a persistent problem for people. Either they wanted all their stills imported at actual pixel size, or they wanted a specific PAR, or they were just confused by Vegas's "resize to fit" behavior. Vegas needs to ask what you want to do, with the option of turning off this feature later on, at which point this would be controlled in prefs.

Rob Mack

craftech wrote on 11/3/2005, 6:07 PM

And the flash frame issue?
And the audio flatline issue?
And what about that credit roll. How many of us use credit rolls at the end of our productions? The credit roll is a leftover joke from version 2 that is NEVER upgraded.
And the transitions? Implementing their duration and setting them in place especially across multiple tracks could be made lot easier than it has been. Isn't an improvement there warranted after this long.

Please fix the basic editor this time Sony. I haven't "upgraded" since Vegas 4 because of this. No more bells and whistles please. Fix the basic editor. How about some Wizards for basic tasks?

vitalforce wrote on 11/3/2005, 7:14 PM

Adding my $0.002 worth: Also wish Vegas (or DVDA3) could split and JOIN MPEG2 files. Would have saved me many MANY hours trying out color corrections, etc. on a DV feature being put on DVD for festival submissions.

Avene wrote on 11/3/2005, 7:47 PM

Firstly, I'd like to see a much better deinterlacer. Especially considering the majority of people shooting HDV are using Sony cameras which only shoot interlaced. Just interpolating the fields will only reduce the vertical resolution, and blending the fields only adds unwanted blur.

I'd also like to see plugins like those I use in my old copy of Commotion Pro 4.1. Those being -

1. 'Real Shadows' for creating realistic looking fake shadows that can be placed on the ground area of a shot
2. 'Smooth Screen'.. I can't remember if that's the exact name, but basically if you're shooting blue or greenscreen this plugin will smooth out any bumps on the screen to provide a nice even colour making keying a lot easier.
3. 'Composite color matcher' for for copying the colour of one layer/track to another
4. 'Light wrapping' - I think someone mentioned this above.
5. Bicubic filtering

I'd also like to see some improvements made to the keyer to allow it to deal with finer details such as hair more effectively.

Motion tracking is something I've wanted in Vegas for ages aswell.

I'm still using Vegas 5 by the way, so adding at least a couple of these features would give me a reason to upgrade. I didn't feel the new features added to Vegas 6 were worth the upgrade price.

Glenn

farss wrote on 11/4/2005, 3:17 AM

No new widgets, just hope Vegas continues to be an 'open' NLE and not become Sony specific. A very good trend was started with Vegas being the first NLE to properly support 24p from the DVX100, sadly that's not been a trend continued of late, specifically no native support for DVCPRO anything and so far no indication of support for MXF apart from Sony's XDCAM.
None of the above impacts me directly, DVCPRO never enters my world and the only MXF I've had to deal with so far was from a XDCAM but.....
Same goes for BWF on the audio side, which does impact me.
And finally, support for multichannel audio over SDI, my goodness, that's a Sony staple offering and we can't handle it, sad.
Bob.

ushere wrote on 11/4/2005, 3:59 AM

just get pal t/c entry working in advanced vid capture and i'll be a happy vegimite.

ie. if i enter 12515 on the number pad it turns into 1:25:15, not bloody frames!!!!

then again, i think i've been asking this since 3.

leslie

Spot|DSE wrote on 11/4/2005, 5:34 AM

sonic foundry vegas always seemed a step ahead, IMHO

With a coupla exceptions, it's the same team from SOFO that develops Vegas, ACID, and Sound Forge. Plus more guys. I mention it only because so many folks think that Sony got rid of, or dramatically changed the face of the folks in Mad when they acquired the software. They didn't.

Kanst wrote on 11/4/2005, 6:29 AM

1.) VU meter (better as a border part of peak scale, not a separate line, as in Forge).
2.) Sound XF assignable for separate sound events with at least XF volume envelope.
3.) Selecting event in Media Pool highlight a colored shortcut for this event on timeline.
4.) Import MPEG (1,2,4,AVC) with advanced analised information (bitrates, IDC ets.) Keyframe marks for MPEG files on timeline.
5.) "SMART" MPEG editing (without rerender nonedited parts).
6.) Full decoding to entire channels of imported AC3 and AAC files.
6a.) "SMART" AC3/AAC editing.
7.) Audio velosity envelopes
8.) Auto size restore of selected minimized tracks.
9.) User editable list for defoult Master FX and other FX chains (now avaliable only on audio track FX).
10.) Separate downloadable version: entire Vegas as one part, Media Manager (and other unuseful) - another part.

toddgeer wrote on 11/4/2005, 10:14 AM

First, a filter which removes that guy from the wedding audience who's picking his nose. That would be great, thanks.

Second, some kind of image which shows at what scale you are at when looking at the timeline, which changes as you zoom in or out. I'll sometimes highlight 10 minutes of the timeline thinking I'm highlighting 10 seconds. I'd like to be able to zoom in to a scale of <fill in the blank> so I know how much an inch is, etc.

Also, some of the FX plugin sliders are WAY out of whack, moving from L to R in a single mouse wheel detent while others move from 0.001 to 0.002 on a scale that goes to 10.000. Not very consistent.

Wolfgang S. wrote on 11/4/2005, 10:53 AM

I would like to see superior HDV editing features:

- no m2t bug, where Vegas is blown up when you import more then 50 or 100 m2t files

- improved preview captabilities even for m2t (both 1080i and 720p)

- smart rendering: well, yes, would be nice, but only if you can switch it on/off

- capturing of HDV is still a nightmare, Vegas still does not support some Camcorders. For example the JVC HD101 or the older JVC PD1 - delivers still material that is useless.

- automatic szene detection when you capture m2t; both for m2t but also the intermediate files

- a much better H.264 encoder, not limited to a funny size at all

- incorported DVCPRO HD capabilities

should be enough for this posting...
;)

ReasonMan wrote on 11/4/2005, 3:20 PM

1st: Sony should give priority to professionals and broadcasters not semi-professionals as it is now. I like Vegas but I can't work with it professionaly as it is now because there are important features missing. See below:

2nd: Support multichannel audio over SDI when you use Blackmagic Design-cards (as farss wrote before) VERY IMPORTANT!

3rd: DVCPro support

4th: Export using DVCPro (4:1:1) and Sony (4:2:0) codecs

5th: Support proxyfiles of XDCam (This is working in Avid NewsCutter why not in Vegas??? XDCam=Sony and Vegas=Sony, what is the problem??? FIX THIS QUICK!!!)

6th: Direct accessing when you set a specific tc in adv capture (XDCam) VERY IMPORTANT! (This is working in Avid versions since a couple of years now)
http://www.sonymediasoftware.com/forums/ShowMessage.asp?ForumID=4&MessageID=375703

7th: Get the tc entry working in adv capture. If I would enter 13614 on the numberpad it should turn into 1:36:14 and not frames as it is now (as ushere wrote before). What is the problem??? FIX IT!!!

winrockpost wrote on 11/4/2005, 3:31 PM

DSE says ........"With a coupla exceptions, it's the same team from SOFO that develops Vegas, ACID, and Sound Forge. Plus more guys."

kind of like a good football team, they change coaches, and the team aint the same.

I am not bashing the guys in Madison, they have put together some great software,, I'm just concerned of where the "coaches" priorities are.

PeterWright wrote on 11/6/2005, 9:43 PM

Something I've asked for before with no luck:

When there is a locked event whose relative position will be affected by a ripple edit, then a warning window should come up - something like
"There are one or more locked events affected by this ripple - do you want to proceed?"

Without this warning, there is always the possibility that a locked event way down the timeline will be forgotten.

Strangely enough, after being careful to avoid this problem I did get caught last week - an HDV project I had already rendered to two MPEG2s, I then decided to do an HDV Print to Tape, deleted some stuff at the beginning of the timeline and Rippled everything to close up the gap. Turns out that there was a forgotten locked video event near the end which (a) left a gap where it had previously been and (b) superimposed itself over the video which had been rippled to it's locked position.

fixler wrote on 11/6/2005, 10:35 PM

It would be great to see some of the new features found in Ulead MediaStudio 8.

1. Smart Compositor: Create Professional-quality opening sequences or segues instantly. Insert ready-made customizable theme templates - effects, titles and even transitions - into your video projects along with your own video and audio clips.

2. SmartSound: custom royalty-free soundtracks (I am aware of ACID>>)

3. Proxy Render: Enable video proxy option to create proxy files for faster rendering of your project. (I don't know how this would work, but something similar to Smart... in DVDArch3)

4. (OT) DVDArch3--High quality pro themes/templates. Like those found in Adobe Encore & Apple's DVD prod offering.

5. Interface templates

tazio wrote on 11/6/2005, 11:00 PM

A "Restore Sync" somewhere, so that if you accidentally move some audio, you can restore it to it's original position.

Also a way of moving events to other parts of the timeline without the mouse (I know copy and paste and the Num Kypd will do the same thing). Something along the lines of Select Event > Move To > Event Marker or Home or End of Last Event

JJKizak wrote on 11/7/2005, 5:40 AM

You mean restoring sync other than moving back with the mouse, or using the undo?

JJK

rmack350 wrote on 11/7/2005, 7:44 AM

Yes, Vegas has great scripting ability. But how about a macro recorder? Seems like that's be great for bulk actions like changing a setting on every event on a track.

Rob Mack

BrianStanding wrote on 11/7/2005, 8:54 AM

Restore sync is in V6. Move part of a A/V pair out of sync, and right-click on the pink arrow.

Coursedesign wrote on 11/7/2005, 10:13 AM

Every time a wishlist builds up, there are wishes for features that are already in the program.

That points to the need for a better manual.

The Vegas manual is not doing anything for Sony Sales or Sony Support. Never did.

It needs a serious rewrite.

If it wasn't for the online Help file, I would have gotten rid of my Vegas software a long time ago. This is not enough though, a real manual is needed and would absolutely pay for itself.

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