Turn proxies OFF when importing?

Former user wrote on 6/7/2020, 2:26 AM

I am still trying to bring in a project from Resolve (lite) and Vegas Pro keeps generating proxies each time. Is there a way to tell VP not to generate proxies on import? This is HD footage, not even 4K. I am not sure why VP is doing this. Is there an over-riding command to base the project on source footage during import?

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j-v wrote on 6/7/2020, 2:31 AM

Depends on the Vegas version, which one are you using?

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Former user wrote on 6/7/2020, 2:34 AM

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Dexcon wrote on 6/7/2020, 2:38 AM

Have a look at Options/Preferences/Video - the proxy switch is there for creating proxies for 4K media. Nonetheless, it is strange that VP is creating proxies for 1920x1080 media.

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j-v wrote on 6/7/2020, 2:38 AM

met vriendelijke groet
Marten

Camera : Pan X900, GoPro Hero7 Hero Black, DJI Osmo Pocket, Samsung Galaxy A8
Desktop :MB Gigabyte Z390M, W11 home version 24H2, i7 9700 4.7Ghz,16 DDR4 GB RAM, Gef. GTX 1660 Ti with driver
566.14 Studiodriver and Intel HD graphics 630 with driver 31.0.101.2130
Laptop  :Asus ROG Str G712L, W11 home version 23H2, CPU i7-10875H, 16 GB RAM, NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2070 with Studiodriver 576.02 and Intel UHD Graphics 630 with driver 31.0.101.2130
Vegas software: VP 10 to 22 and VMS(pl) 10,12 to 17.
TV      :LG 4K 55EG960V

My slogan is: BE OR BECOME A STEM CELL DONOR!!! (because it saved my life in 2016)

 

Former user wrote on 6/7/2020, 2:39 AM

Yeah, I shut that proxies for 4K media off last week and VP still insists that it be made. I believe otherwise and want VP to obey me.

Dexcon wrote on 6/7/2020, 2:48 AM

Go to Internal Preferences (Options / Shift key + click Preferences) and will see a new tab there - Internal. Click on the Internal tab. In the field at the very bottom of Internal, type in Proxy - and you should get 8 selections. Lines 3 and 4 show the minimum V + H resolution for which proxies are triggered. If those are coded at 4K like numbers, lines 1 and 2 allow you to turn off proxies by changing the word TRUE to FALSE, then hit OK. If the rez fields are HD like, change them to the defaults of 4097 and 2161 and then hit OK.

Last changed by Dexcon on 6/7/2020, 2:49 AM, changed a total of 1 times.

Cameras: Sony FDR-AX100E; GoPro Hero 11 Black Creator Edition

Installed: Vegas Pro 15, 16, 17, 18, 19, 20, 21 & 22, HitFilm Pro 2021.3, DaVinci Resolve Studio 19.0.3, BCC 2025, Mocha Pro 2025.0, NBFX TotalFX 7, Neat NR, DVD Architect 6.0, MAGIX Travel Maps, Sound Forge Pro 16, SpectraLayers Pro 11, iZotope RX11 Advanced and many other iZ plugins, Vegasaur 4.0

Windows 11

Dell Alienware Aurora 11:

10th Gen Intel i9 10900KF - 10 cores (20 threads) - 3.7 to 5.3 GHz

NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2080 SUPER 8GB GDDR6 - liquid cooled

64GB RAM - Dual Channel HyperX FURY DDR4 XMP at 3200MHz

C drive: 2TB Samsung 990 PCIe 4.0 NVMe M.2 PCIe SSD

D: drive: 4TB Samsung 870 SATA SSD (used for media for editing current projects)

E: drive: 2TB Samsung 870 SATA SSD

F: drive: 6TB WD 7200 rpm Black HDD 3.5"

Dell Ultrasharp 32" 4K Color Calibrated Monitor

 

LAPTOP:

Dell Inspiron 5310 EVO 13.3"

i5-11320H CPU

C Drive: 1TB Corsair Gen4 NVMe M.2 2230 SSD (upgraded from the original 500 GB SSD)

Monitor is 2560 x 1600 @ 60 Hz

Former user wrote on 6/7/2020, 2:59 AM

@Dexcon It defaults to 4K and my footage is still 2K. Am perplexed because the project in Resolve has no proxies turned on either.

j-v wrote on 6/7/2020, 3:14 AM

What do you exactly mean saying "to bring in a project from Resolve" and how do you do such?

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Camera : Pan X900, GoPro Hero7 Hero Black, DJI Osmo Pocket, Samsung Galaxy A8
Desktop :MB Gigabyte Z390M, W11 home version 24H2, i7 9700 4.7Ghz,16 DDR4 GB RAM, Gef. GTX 1660 Ti with driver
566.14 Studiodriver and Intel HD graphics 630 with driver 31.0.101.2130
Laptop  :Asus ROG Str G712L, W11 home version 23H2, CPU i7-10875H, 16 GB RAM, NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2070 with Studiodriver 576.02 and Intel UHD Graphics 630 with driver 31.0.101.2130
Vegas software: VP 10 to 22 and VMS(pl) 10,12 to 17.
TV      :LG 4K 55EG960V

My slogan is: BE OR BECOME A STEM CELL DONOR!!! (because it saved my life in 2016)

 

Former user wrote on 6/7/2020, 3:18 AM

@j-v Kindly refer to this thread to aid your comprehension: https://www.vegascreativesoftware.info/us/forum/hauling-in-a-davinci-resolve-lite-project-into-vegas-pro--121258/

Marco. wrote on 6/7/2020, 3:28 AM

I'd guess in your case Vegas Pro generates an audio proxy, not video proxies. This is needed for project imports.

Former user wrote on 6/7/2020, 3:36 AM

@Marco. Why have proxies of any kind when the source footage is sufficient and more importantly, I do not want to activate the proxies. I want to dictate to VP what can and cannot be used. Right now proxies are eating up space and there is no reason for it.

Marco. wrote on 6/7/2020, 3:42 AM

If I am right and these are audio proxies, then Vegas Pro needs them to be able to play the sound at all. It wouldn't make sense to suppress them and audio proxies are very small files. If.

Which is the file type you import from Resolve?

Edit:
I just see Nick already answered this question some days ago here (and it looks like I'm right – we talk about essential audio proxies).

Former user wrote on 6/7/2020, 4:22 AM

@Marco. The proxies are about a hundred gigs. While I have a roomy SSD, I do not like a hundred gigs wasted when my video and audio files are sitting there perfectly fine and operational. I imported xml and final cut pro options, the latter worked best--except for the proxies shoved down my throat. I would supress proxies if my PCM files are there and perfectly fine. Resolve does not use proxies on this project and works fine. I suspect that if I built the project originaly in Vegas, it would not shove 100+ gigs of proxies down my throat either. I am running multiple projects in VP and this importing is the only one where I am made to swallow proxy. So why not continue in Resolve (lite)? Because I thought I might have more options using a full version of an NLE then a lite version. Oh well.

Marco. wrote on 6/7/2020, 4:35 AM

Actually 15 hours of such audio proxies need 10 GB. You have more than hundred GB of such proxy files? These are more than 150 hours.

Anyway - that's the way Vegas Pro works for such project imports. It just needs the audio proxies, imho.

I'm not sure but I doubt it makes sense, but you can try to turn off the audio proxy creation via the internal preferences. Search for "audio proxy" and turn off the option "Create Audio Proxy Files" (set the value to FALSE).

3POINT wrote on 6/7/2020, 5:00 AM

I think @Former user means the generating of the audio peak files (.sfk). These files are needed to visualize the audio waveform of an audio event. By my knowledge the generation of these small files cannot be turned off.

Marco. wrote on 6/7/2020, 5:51 AM

Peak files are only few kB in size. I'm pretty sure now it is about the audio proxy files (see the linked discussion from a week ago which is the same topic). It's about the SFAP0 files, these are audio proxies.

Dexcon wrote on 6/7/2020, 6:04 AM

Yes, peak files are small. I just checked one audio folder which has 2.68GB of WAV files. The .sfk files are only a miniscule 17.2MB in size. That's about .046% the size of the original media.

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Cameras: Sony FDR-AX100E; GoPro Hero 11 Black Creator Edition

Installed: Vegas Pro 15, 16, 17, 18, 19, 20, 21 & 22, HitFilm Pro 2021.3, DaVinci Resolve Studio 19.0.3, BCC 2025, Mocha Pro 2025.0, NBFX TotalFX 7, Neat NR, DVD Architect 6.0, MAGIX Travel Maps, Sound Forge Pro 16, SpectraLayers Pro 11, iZotope RX11 Advanced and many other iZ plugins, Vegasaur 4.0

Windows 11

Dell Alienware Aurora 11:

10th Gen Intel i9 10900KF - 10 cores (20 threads) - 3.7 to 5.3 GHz

NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2080 SUPER 8GB GDDR6 - liquid cooled

64GB RAM - Dual Channel HyperX FURY DDR4 XMP at 3200MHz

C drive: 2TB Samsung 990 PCIe 4.0 NVMe M.2 PCIe SSD

D: drive: 4TB Samsung 870 SATA SSD (used for media for editing current projects)

E: drive: 2TB Samsung 870 SATA SSD

F: drive: 6TB WD 7200 rpm Black HDD 3.5"

Dell Ultrasharp 32" 4K Color Calibrated Monitor

 

LAPTOP:

Dell Inspiron 5310 EVO 13.3"

i5-11320H CPU

C Drive: 1TB Corsair Gen4 NVMe M.2 2230 SSD (upgraded from the original 500 GB SSD)

Monitor is 2560 x 1600 @ 60 Hz

Former user wrote on 6/7/2020, 1:34 PM

The project is now six hours of interview footage I spent months arranging. Interview audio is from lav, shotgun, and field mics. There still has to be b-roll, (lots of) images, and a lot of source location field recordings. I do not mind some necessary files, a few gigs. But I am pretty sure it is generating video proxies as well, which I do not need.

Marco. wrote on 6/7/2020, 1:44 PM

Check the file extension. SFAP0 are audio proxies. SFVP0 are video proxies.

Former user wrote on 6/8/2020, 12:46 AM

@Marco.All that and more, like mov.veg among others. 100 gigs of proxies for 6+ hours of footage will not be all audio. It may be best to simply complete the project in Resolve (lite) as I already invested a lot of time and effort into it. I am not keen on losing months of work. It would have been nice to do it in VP.

Howard-Vigorita wrote on 6/9/2020, 9:57 PM

@Former user Your camera footage seems to be avc video in an mov wrapper with pcm audio. You would reduce disk spaced used by audio in Vegas if you exported instead as mp4 with AAC audio. And get no audio proxies. Or, if its more important to you to preserve audio quality as it came out of the camera, such as it is, export as mxf. Vegas supports pcm audio in mxf without the need for an audio proxy. The approach I usually take with mixed audio is to export it separately as a beginning to end 24-bit wav64 master track.