Vegas 5 : Tell us what you need

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JohanAlthoff wrote on 10/1/2003, 12:11 PM
More / assignable keyboard shortcuts.

I've recently assigned tons of shortcuts in Logic to quickly access Gluestick, Arrow, Scissors etc from the numeric keypad (I'm left-handed) and it sped up my workflow incredibly. It'd be nice to have this kind of freedom in Vegas aswell.

Also, the "hard selections" someone mentioned, where you select all events and apply e.g. a fade, a bunch of pitch-shifting parameters or basically anything too ALL of them simultaneously would be highly, highly usable.
wilcofan wrote on 10/1/2003, 2:44 PM
"More / assignable keyboard shortcuts.
I've recently assigned tons of shortcuts in Logic to quickly access Gluestick, Arrow, Scissors etc from the numeric keypad (I'm left-handed) and it sped up my workflow incredibly. It'd be nice to have this kind of freedom in Vegas aswell."

A good workaround instead of waiting for app development would be to buy Quickeys 2.5. You could easily automate any of those 4 tool buttons with their own keystrokes. Not saying Vegas should allow more key commands but when I messed with the demo Quickeys made it just as flexible as any other app I've used.

However, a "work while a key is held down" for the zoom is always a good idea or at least a "return to last key used" when choosing the main select tool so you can toggle with a key.

Bob
Mincer wrote on 10/1/2003, 6:50 PM
My needs are simple..a way to use VSTi's, either using ReWire, or just using Vegas as a host and route the output (audio) of the VSTi to a track. Not that interested in full midi implementation (keep Vegas focused on the A?V side of things). But would love to incorporate VSTi's...I have to use Sonar to record anyhing that uses them now.
stakeoutstudios wrote on 10/2/2003, 4:24 AM
better snapping - yesterday I was shifting around a group of drum events, which had been split to one bar. However the snapping wasn't kicking in, no matter what grid setting or marker, until I zoomed right in!

Also, it would be useful if you could select a group of crossfaded, sliced events, and turn them into one event. This way you could put a loop switch on it!

Also when we group items, everything should behave as a group - event fades etc...

I have more but have forgotton, I'll grab my notes from the studio when I can!
Weevil wrote on 10/2/2003, 8:01 AM
Yep, a strong vote of support for Pup on that one. The ability to glue events together to form a new event would be tremendously useful in the big V and ACID.
whr wrote on 10/2/2003, 11:56 AM
I agree with the midi thing. I could then drop my Cakewalk software completely.
filmy wrote on 10/2/2003, 2:56 PM
As one of these has not really popped up on the video side yet I want to toss in a few other items - not fully audio.

Translation from video editing to NLE - "insert edit". Currently you can punch in audio on a selected track. But can you "punch in" video? Not in the same sense. So how about "insert" buttons on all tracks? You want to insert video and audio on Video track 1 and audio track 16? Just click the "insert" buttons on those tracks. Now drag your clip over and it *only* goes onto those tracks.

To further this - in and out points on the "record side". None of this "After Cursor" "Before Cursor" "Select All" "Select track" "Split track" etc mess. Just a simple in point, and out point if need be, and when combined with the "insert" buttons - ohhhh, life just got a whole lot easier when editing with VV.

And one other thing - this is sort of a 'bug" type thing. But in the media pool when you are in a folder, or sub folder, and you put something on the timeline. If you do not like what you did and you "undo" that edit, the media pool will redraw and dump you out into the project root. I was told this is a default windows explorer action but I have never had this happen in any folder outside of VV. If I delete something in a folder I am not dumped back out into the drive root. So it is some sort of VV issue and very annoying when you have several folders in the media pool.
izzy457 wrote on 10/3/2003, 5:39 AM
1. I would like to be able to use control freak (midi controller) with vegas when mixing.

2. I'm a prog rock composer, and I change tempos and meters every few bars. I use ruler in vegas extensively. But I have to resort to Sonar when I'm composing,only because I cant change the tempo and meter during the song in vegas. (e.g Bar 1-4 120bpm 4/4, Bar 5-9 140 bpm 7/8.....and so on).With the introduction of this feature in vegas, I'll abandon Sonar for good......Please pretty Please!
stump_grinder wrote on 10/3/2003, 10:05 AM
I think it's got to be...Control Surface support!!
Shmuel wrote on 10/3/2003, 11:03 AM
It would be nice if we won't have to wait after long recording for the building peaks process.

more colores for events and tracks.
Streak wrote on 10/3/2003, 2:01 PM
A way to lock events in time and still be able to edit them. ie split, change levels or fade ins.
stakeoutstudios wrote on 10/4/2003, 3:56 AM
just oout of curiosity, why do we have to wait for peak building? we see the wavform (badly drawn) during recording, how about an option to have vegas work out the peak files as it records, and then just dump them to disk when we press stop? I'd quite like the peaks as it's recording to be better quality visually also...

Maybe this is technically more complex than it seems? I can't imagine it taking a tremendous amount of extra host load...
bgc wrote on 10/4/2003, 12:28 PM
Regarding locking, i don't like how locking changes the look of events. A minor issue, but it keeps me from using the feature. Maybe have an option that just puts a lock symbol on the events (before the event name if that's on) and leave the look of the event the same as unlocked events.
B.
PipelineAudio wrote on 10/5/2003, 1:01 PM
yes WHY ?
[r]Evolution wrote on 10/5/2003, 3:36 PM
A prettier interface! I know that sounds crazy but take a look at PremierePro, AVID Xpress, & FinalCutPro. They look sleeker and more 'proffesional'. VEGAS still has that 'amatuer' look.

I've applied 'Skins' to mine to make it look a little better, but in comparison of the looks dept., VEGAS is behind. The other apps have 'rounded buttons' and 'shadows' etc. and looks like somebody got a profeessioanl to put ithe UI together. Vegas looks like one of those $20 programs you buy. It does not look proffessional at all. If it looks like a toy people will think it's a toy. With all of it's features and functions, it should look like the power house it is.

Lamont
stakeoutstudios wrote on 10/6/2003, 4:05 AM
I disagree about the interface, I'm a big fan of the whole keep it simple, does what it says on the time thing that Vegas has going...
Ben  wrote on 10/6/2003, 7:20 AM
Lamont Dennis - some points for you:

1) This is the Vegas AUDIO forum. People here neither know nor care what Premiere or Avid looks like.

2) People here do know Vegas' audio competitiors, such as Pro Tools, Nuendo, etc. Vegas blows them out of the water in every way - <particulary> their interfaces. Funnily enough Pro Tools has one of the ugliest UI's I've seen on a DAW and perhaps because of that it's deemed to be 'professional'?

3) You want 'pretty', go buy a toy. Want rounded buttons? Switch on all the ridiculous XP options.

The long and the short of it is that Vegas' interface is pro-looking, elegant and functional. I can't believe the amount of shallow people here you who want rounded buttons. Jeeez...

Ben
momo wrote on 10/6/2003, 8:48 AM
Already mentioned a-plenty, but I'll add to the refrain and keep it simple:

MIDI/VSTi's
MIDI/VSTi's
MIDI/VSTi's
MIDI/VSTi's

Thanks!

-momo-
drbam wrote on 10/6/2003, 9:54 AM
Yes, please keep the UI simple! The whole "professional look" argument reminds me of the analogy: "Marrying for money is like buying a house for its paint." Nuff said. . . ;-)

drbam
Geoff_Wood wrote on 10/6/2003, 11:09 PM
Lammont,

Pretty and rounded is 'comsumer' world. Concise and functional is 'professional'. Looks like your reality is back-to-front.

geoff
Arnar wrote on 10/7/2003, 1:41 PM
Hmm....I dont think we need the smart graphics but i do agree that vegas looks like a toy.

Maybe its the channel colours?
Let´s face it , there are a whole lotta things that get ppl to buy an app and looks is one of them....silly but true.

And since the looks obviously influence buyers then why not my clients that sit beside me when i open up a prog that has a certain toy look to it.

Make it look a bit better ....cant hurt!

XAUDIODIGITAL wrote on 10/7/2003, 2:11 PM
Of course, Midi control surface with like Mackie-Control, Excelent choice....the best Freature..........!!!
Ben  wrote on 10/7/2003, 3:11 PM
Arnar - FWIW, I agree with you a little about the channel colours - a little naff. So, I have a template that has alternating blue and cyan channel colours - looks a whole lot better.

Which brings me to another topic about Vegas needing proper template implemenation... I'll write a proper suggestion in this thread at some point soon.

Ben
imac wrote on 10/7/2003, 4:23 PM
Layout is fine, but not the colors.
So few options for track colors, would it not be better in a large project to have unique colors for groups of tracks?

I prefer the bold colors of earlier vegas versions, seemed to have more contrast which for me means more clarity and definition. The current sheme is very washy.