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TV-Slupsk wrote on 5/5/2022, 11:14 AM

Unfortunately, VEGAS is only available on Windows OS. You can install Win using Boot Camp and then install VEGAS on it.

fr0sty wrote on 5/5/2022, 12:38 PM

Don't expect very good performance, but it can be emulated on a mac. If you want the full experience, you gotta go PC. You're better off that way anyway, as mac support for GPUs is terrible, they want to force you to use their M1 GPU which isn't that great. It does have hardware ProRes decoding, however, that is its one strong point, if you happen to capture your video on that format.

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Systems:

Desktop

AMD Ryzen 7 1800x 8 core 16 thread at stock speed

64GB 3000mhz DDR4

Geforce RTX 3090

Windows 10

Laptop:

ASUS Zenbook Pro Duo 32GB (9980HK CPU, RTX 2060 GPU, dual 4K touch screens, main one OLED HDR)

PostJake wrote on 8/5/2022, 8:18 AM

Was going to switch back to mac, but after 3 weeks editing with Premiere Pro on a Mac trashcan, I feel like I've gone way back in time. Way WAY back in time. Single-step functionality on Vegas is easily 4 or 5 extra steps on Premiere.

Despite using Media 100 and After Effects 4.0 on PowerMac in the mid 90s, my love affair with Mac is officially over. Starting my search now for another PC with compatible GPU, new or used that'll run Vegas smoothly.

Any suggested threads for Vegas-approved PCs?

Dexcon wrote on 8/5/2022, 8:32 AM

The starting point is the minimum specifications recommended for Vegas 19:

https://www.vegascreativesoftware.com/us/specifications/#productMenu

Lot's of comments on the forum over many years about the plusses and minuses of both AMD and NVIDIA GPUs - my earlier computers had AMD GPUs and they worked well for the Vegas Pro versions of the time. My current computer has an NVIDIA GPU (see signature) and it works equally well with both Vegas Pro 18 and 19.

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Cameras: Sony FDR-AX100E; GoPro Hero 8 Black

Installed: Vegas Pro 16 Edit, Vegas Pro 17 Edit, Vegas Pro 18, Vegas Pro 19 Edit, HitFilm Pro 2021.3, BCC 2022, Mocha Pro 2022, Ignite Pro, NBFX TotalFX 7, Sound Forge Pro 15, SpectraLayers Pro 8, iZotope RX9 Advanced

Windows 11

Dell Alienware Aurora 11

10th Gen Intel i9 10900KF - 10 cores (20 threads) - 3.7 to 5.3 GHz

NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2080 SUPER 8GB GDDR6 - liquid cooled

64GB RAM - Dual Channel HyperX FURY DDR4 XMP at 3200MHz

C drive: 1TB M.2 PCIe NVMe SSD

D drive: 6TB WD 7200 rpm Black HDD 3.5"

E & F drives: 2 x 2TB Barracuda HDDs 2.5"

 

fr0sty wrote on 8/5/2022, 7:48 PM

The only thing macs have going for them these days is hardware ProRes decoding. Other than that, the lack of GPU support, the unified memory (so the already slow (for the price) GPU bandwidth is held back further by having to share it with the CPU), and the price kill it for me.

Systems:

Desktop

AMD Ryzen 7 1800x 8 core 16 thread at stock speed

64GB 3000mhz DDR4

Geforce RTX 3090

Windows 10

Laptop:

ASUS Zenbook Pro Duo 32GB (9980HK CPU, RTX 2060 GPU, dual 4K touch screens, main one OLED HDR)

Howard-Vigorita wrote on 8/7/2022, 12:13 PM

I think the biggest advantage the m1's have is that they are so efficient, that active cooling is largely unnecessary. But their x86/x64 emulation is so spotty that most efforts to run apps and drivers directly under Windows arm64 are not faring well. And neither are virtual machine implementations like Parallels. Also, the M1's ddr4 ram may be efficiently wired directly into the cpu, but is limited to 16 gigs. The newer M1-Max cpu is needed for any more ram. Btw, the Apple igpu processing power is only slightly better than an Nvidia 1650. It is good at ProRes, however. But Apple libs running on the latest and greatest Intel cpus are plenty fast too. Not sure how the m1 performance compares for avc, hevc, and av1... have not seen specific benches on that.

Here's an interesting bench review of Adobe Premier Native on the M1 and M1 Max compared to running the Windows version on some of the latest Ryzen's and Intel 11th gen cpus. The M1's look good compared to other laptops. But they can't hold a candle to higher powered desktops running Nvidia 3000 series gpus.

Cameras: Z-Cam E2 w/Canon EF turbo mount, Canon xf605 & xf305, JVC gv-LS2, Canon 6D w/L-glass line.
Laptop: Dell XPS15-9570; i7-8750h 32gb (uhd-630 {100.9664} & gtx1050ti {516.94}) Win11
Road: Intel NUC8 i7-8809g 32gb (igpu AMD VegaM 4gb {21.8.2 [Mod]} & igpu Intel hd630 {100.9415}) Win11
Workstation: LC i9-11900k 64gb (LC 6900xt 16 gb {22.5.1}, 1660ti 6 gb {516.94} & uhd750 {101.3222} ) Win11
Workstation: i9-9900k 32 gb (Radeon VII 16gb {22.5.1} & uhd630 {101.2111}) Win10

Workstation2: Xeon-1650v4 128 gb (5700xt 8gb {22.5.1} & gtx1660 6gb {516.94}) Win10
Workstation3: i7-980X 24gb (Sapphire Nitro+ RX580 8gb {21.q3}) Win10
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