enhanced titling technology

probably be a real steep learning curve since it may have pro in the name,, maybe worked with the guys at boris and after effects so now we wont know if we are keying first or keying last,, man jthis just sucks

:)

anyone else concerned by the lack of mentioning of any next gen authoring? The IBC page said for DVD and I noticed there was nothing mentioned about next gen authoring or even BD hence the 4.5 number. That would definitely suck.

Well, Pat, you're just a ray of sunshine....

I'm not expecting this release DVD Architect to support BluRay authoring. The cheapest, relatively professional BluRay authoring package is currently $500, which is the cost of Vegas and DVD Architect combined. If Vegas and DVDA cost $2500 then I might expect it.

John

Sorry John, I promise its not my intention. My apologies for the earlier post. Having a couple hard days here. Dont mean to take it out on the forum.

Heres my concern. I already burn BD from within Adobe. Now if Vegas stays at the one year development cycle, Adobe will have had a year and a half head start supporting BD authoring for their customers which doesnt phase me but it does Vegas users especially when the format was developed by Sony. I just cant for the life of me figure the reasoning behind that.

I really hope Vegas 8 delivers. Sincerely I do because I still prefer it over Premiere.

I suspect it's a corporate edict that potential home BD burning shall not be supported by any Sony entity.

I also suspect that Madison has a skunkworks project going, so they can release this as soon as Sony mgmt. finds the company to be the only one not making money on burning BDs.

I had the same thoughts only I thought maybe they were waiting for BD+ to proliferate the market making it damn near impossible or worth effort to back up BD movies to home burners which makes sense but since other companies are offering it, Sony is running dangerously close to losing market share further especially if Adobe gets the authoring right. Add an additional year in the market and when Adobe releases updates, Sony just playing catch up.

If that theory holds true, Vegas users will still be 2 years out from seriously benefiting from next gen authoring if you figure in a year to get bugs worked out...not to mention Vista bugs as well.

This stuff gives me a headache honestly.

"I suspect it's a corporate edict that potential home BD burning shall not be supported by any Sony entity." That sums it up fairly well. Sony has been able to burn any format and menu design you could imagine, but you need third parties at the table because most production houses rely on third party software, you want the pros on first, this is why mepg2 was used first, don't make the pros look like amateurs. Sony letting everyone have their piece of the production pie.

http://www.ibc.org/cgi-bin/exhib_detail_cms.cgi?db_id=4287

I used Google, too: "Vegas Pro 8" Titler

Oddly, that doesn't work now. But, that is how I found it the first time.

Along with all these awesome features... I would like to see Vegas look PRO.
Personally, I'm tired of the Windows 2000 look of Vegas.

On more than 1 occasion when I've opened PP or FCP after a client has been watching an edit in Vegas... they go, "Whoa... what's that program?"

Simply because PP & FCP have a more Aggressive, Up to Date, Creative, Futuristic look. I've had clients comment on the way Vegas looks and ask me what OS I'm running. Simply because they are there for the Full Experience. They want the cool looking UI. It makes them feel cooler.

I for one... don't like the Windows 2000 look of Vegas and I hope with the reinvention of Vegas Pro... there's also a new look.

You can never please everyone on this point. If they do anything at all I hope they make it skinnable.

Rob Mack

> The team that designs this software is made up of real, hardworking, dedicated people whose sole aim is to improve what is already a phenomenal piece of software

<How do you know any of this? How many Sony Creative Software developers can you name?>

Sorry, just assuming the people who work on the software are real, and work hard.

Gawd, I go away for a few days and it appears the SAME Vegas detractors who have jumped ship are whining about Vegas yet again.

Use it or don't use it. At the end of the day, SONY still has the gold and makes all the rules.

Cliff Etzel
bluprojekt

"Use it or don't use it. At the end of the day, SONY still has the gold and makes all the rules."

If Sony made the "rules" they would lead the "market." FYI, neither of those are happening.

Odd, but there is a slightly more detailed description (however valid) at a Univ of Maine computer support site:

https://cc.its.maine.edu/~maine/cart/look.php?item_id=4053463

That's pretty funny.

If correct, this will surely be appreciated:

ProType Titler: Huge enhancement to our titling capabilities. You can create custom titles, animated texts, unique credit rolls and much, much more.

Out of curiosity, why is it that it seems we are the last ones to be officially informed? The University of Maine has more information than this forum in the sense of what was released.

It would seem that if you have a user base that has gathered together at one place to discuss Vegas, that place would be a great place to release that type of information. Now, if Sony wanted to stay hush hush, that is a different story, but apparently they don't or they would not have let the other information make the rounds to several sites online.

I don't understand this mode of thought. I am not asking for anyone to bash Sony because of their method of disclosure, I am just curious as to the reason why we are not kept more informed here.

j razz

Out of curiosity, why is it that it seems we are the last ones to be officially informed? The University of Maine has more information than this forum in the sense of what was released.

Probably because the University of Maine jumped the gun. It seems that SCS has released details of VP8 (we're going to have to get used that abbreviation) to its sales channel. They are probably under NDA and not supposed to release those details until IBC happens.

UoM probably just hired some HTML guys to get their pages in order for the fall semester and the guy who did it didn't realize that page should not be live yet.

I'm pretty damn sure Sony didn't decide that the University of Maine would be the first place they would announce VP8.

"Vegas Pro 8 is ready for release!"
"Great! Let's tell the world!"
"What time is it in Maine?"

Sony and Sonic Foundry have a history of "accidentally" leaking key details of upcoming Vegas releases a month or two before they are officially announced.

I'm not convinced it's entirely accidental -- seems like a pretty good marketing technique to start a "buzz" going.

For you, busterkeaton:

I agree -- all of this is probably supposed to be under NDA until first week of September (official announcement at IBC). However, I wouldn't be surprised if actual, physical product is already making its way into the retail channels -- with a "hold until Sept X" agreement.

Vegas Movie Studio Platinum 8 (with AVCHD support) was pre-announced by Sony as having a July release date back when we got AVCHD support in Vegas 7e at the end of April. Nothing further was officially mentioned by Sony until July. However, by late June, there were a few new users posting on the VMS forum that would say "I'm using VMS 8 and blah blah blah". When questioned "are you sure its version 8" (which wasn't out yet), they said yeah. I think somebody had actually bought it online and received a boxed copy as early as the end of May.

Obviously, sales channels need info *before* an official product release, so they can get their web pages and sales brochures ready for release day. And they need inventory so they are ready to ship on release day. I guess those that slip up and post the info early just serve to whet our appetites.

Tim L

LOL!

Nicely Done!