At this moment I'm at version 17 but with the new pc I'm going to upgrade to version 20 or 21.

Please note that the MAGIX Vegas website only offers the current Vegas Pro version (21) - and the website offers a trial version of version 21 so that you can check it out before purchasing/subscribing.

To get Vegas Pro 20, you'd be looking at private sales via Amazon and the lik. If taking this route, be cautious because the forum has had a number of posts over the years, including recently, where vendors on Amzon have sold Vegas Pro with the same serial number to multiple buyers - which makes the serial number useless to anybody other than possibly the original purchaser (or maybe no-one because the SN has been hacked from a genuine VP buyer).

thank you for these tips about version 20 and 21. Do you have a suggestion about the hardware (intel vs amd)?

Do you have a suggestion about the hardware (intel vs amd)?

There are others on the forum way more knowledgeable than me about Intel v AMD particularly given that I've only ever used Intel CPUs but not ever AMD CPUs.

The most frequent users here mention their used hardware in their signature

The most frequent users here mention their used hardware in their signature

I updated my signature.

@BONLEV I documented my recent system selection here: Intel 13900K

I chose Intel because of the on-die video decoding hardware.

@BONLEV I documented my recent system selection here: Intel 13900K

I chose Intel because of the on-die video decoding hardware.

thx John! I have read the topic. Seems intel is the way to go and not the amd ryzen. But how important is het GPU in vegas? for adding effects in real time or working in multicam. Is the RTX 3060 or 3070 enough for that?

and 32GIG of RAM or do I need more?

I try to understand why these are important. Just looking at someones signature doesn't help me much.

I would go with the Intel based CPU and the 3070

@BONLEV I would also go Intel + RTX .... ,

I bought an AMD CPU with no integrated graphics, I don't have problems but sometimes wish I'd got Intel,

But how important is het GPU in vegas? for adding effects in real time ...

The GPU + Vegas (& with many editors), different fxs either use more of the CPU or the GPU,

In recent yrs software has moved from the CPU being the main component to using the GPU (& RAM) as much if not more than the CPU, partly because GPU's can be replaced/upgraded easier, it's not easy to put into words but basically nowadays having a good GPU is a good thing.

I've read on here quite a few times of problems with AMD GPU drivers but very rarely read about NVIDIA drivers..

@RogerS has a benchmark test where you can see other's PC setups & how theirs perform.

"...how important is het GPU in vegas?"

Very important for decoding and timeline acceleration. You could use both, one for decoding and the other for acceleration or any combination that works and suits your fancy.

"...32GIG of RAM or do I need more?"

I read that there is a performance hit with four DIMMs on a two-channel motherboard, so I decided to get two DIMMs at 64GB, rather than upgrade later. Having 64GB doesn't hurt anything except your wallet.

I don't work in multicam.

The on-die aspect of an Intel igpu is both its boon and bane. Provides a high-speed direct-connect channel to the cpu but also shares the heat which caps performance of both. The most recent 14th gen design gives it a little more separation, putting the igpu on a chiplet, which should help.

The biggest strength of Intel graphics is that it decodes more formats in hardware than any other gpu maker. That can be had without being on-die now that Intel makes Arc gpu boards. No heat issues but current Intel i-series cpus are hard pressed for pci lanes and slots. Ryzens & Xeons can be had with more lanes and slots (but no igpu) making them a better choice for multi-gpu setups. Current Arcs are not good enough, in my opinion, to serve as both decoding and main gpu but next gen is around the corner and may change that.

thank you all for these great comments! At this moment I probably will go for the intel 14700K that was in in my first post from the guy who is building custum build pc's. I just bought vegas pro 21.(I think about 1 hour ago) There was a offer till 09/01/24 (2 days left) for only 199 euro. I did a test with UHD 25p 8 bit footage and applied a BCC effect on it. It will play "smooth" in draft/auto but not in better quality. But my CPU is only at 20%, my RAM at 17GB (of my 32GB) and the GPU at only 16%?

I just bought vegas pro 21.(I think about 1 hour ago) There was a offer till 09/01/24 (2 days left) for only 199 euro.

Was that necessary?
The upgrade is €149 and you said you had already Vegas 17.

I just bought vegas pro 21.(I think about 1 hour ago) There was a offer till 09/01/24 (2 days left) for only 199 euro.

Was that necessary?
The upgrade is €149 and you said you had already Vegas 17.

 

I checked my post after reading this. I mistyped. It was only 149 euro for the upgrade 😁

can someone answer my question why my cpu and GPU are not fully used and the preview is lagging? See my picture from a previous post

can someone answer my question why my cpu and GPU are not fully used and the preview is lagging? See my picture from a previous post

I think nobody is able to anwer that - for some evident reasons: nobody here knows your system. Nobody can know what settings you use. Nobody knows what type of footage you use. At least I do not know how much performance the used BCC effect takes away. So how should it be possible to answer that?

Beside that, there has been a clear message that the older video engine in Vegas will be updated in the next years. And yes, this will take some time too. https://www.vegascreativesoftware.info/us/forum/new-video-engine-in-vegas--143158/#ca895245

So it is hard to say more without (much more) information. And even then this is a forum, far away from your now exisitng PC.

@BONLEV what's the "best" hardware choices. A lot goes into that. You can watch online hardware reviews to compare, and you can even see benchmarking results of actual users here testing their rigs.

VEGAS 4K "sample project" benchmark: HERE
VEGAS Pro 20 "Ad" benchmark: HERE

You can even test your rig and see how it compares with others.

can someone answer my question why my cpu and GPU are not fully used and the preview is lagging? See my picture from a previous post

I think nobody is able to anwer that - for some evident reasons: nobody here knows your system. Nobody can know what settings you use. Nobody knows what type of footage you use. At least I do not know how much performance the used BCC effect takes away. So how should it be possible to answer that?

Beside that, there has been a clear message that the older video engine in Vegas will be updated in the next years. And yes, this will take some time too. https://www.vegascreativesoftware.info/us/forum/new-video-engine-in-vegas--143158/#ca895245

So it is hard to say more without (much more) information. And even then this is a forum, far away from your now exisitng PC.

the system is in my signature. footage is XACL (long gop) from sony. in this example it was UHD (4K)25P MXF from the sony pxw-z280.

But the question was now why there is still a lag in the preview window when my cpu/GPU and ram are not fully used? (when adding a fx)

doing further testing with my new version 21 of vegas pro. When adding a effect and prerender it goes very fast (much faster than version 17) It gives me no option to which codec to prerender. I can't see which portions of the time line I already prerendered? If I remember correctly in version 17 there was a line above it so I could see it.

I ask this because I'm still doubting which GPU I would go for. But now i see the prerender goes fast the RTX3070 will more than enough.

@BONLEV Selectively Prerender= SHIFT+M