version 8.0c breaks the audio in MXF 720 60P files shot with a Sony EX1. Audio is a series of loud POPS. 1080 files play ok.

Version 8.0b played the same MXF 720 60P files Fine.

Any other Ex1 owners out there see the same problem with 720 60P clips???

"Version 8.0b played the same MXF 720 60P files Fine."

My EX1 is away for upgrade and I don't normally shoot 60p.
However going by a number of posts at DVInfo there were problems with 8.0b as well with 720p60 inc combination with V2 of the clip browser.

Bob.

Rosebud:
Another good thing: [b]What tha?[/B]

Shouldn't that be... Options > Preferences > Video TAB > Thumbnails to show in video Events
... just clarifying because it took me a while to figure out what/where you were talking about.

I also have audio problems with 720 60P.

I have used XDCAM EX ClipBrowser V1.0 and V2.0 with Vegas 8.0b and would have audio pops. So at that point I would use the Click and Crackle Removal plugin to fix the audio. It worked very well.

But now with 8.0c, I don't have any more sounds other than the pops. So there is basically nothing I can do to recover the audio.

I have been avoiding that format as much as possible until I could isolate the problem. Still not sure if it is the camera or the software? The camera needs a firmware update and I have addressed this issue with 8.0c to Sony technical support last friday.

Rob

Thx sync2rhythm,

Error corected.

The ability to choose just what you see in video tracks has been a long time coming but I just WISH the blank video events would take on the track color. It'd look SO MUCH BETTER!

That was a rant.

Rob Mack

Hi Thommes,
I've built a template for 720p delivery of .264 to Vimeo and other streaming sites. Forced progressive from interlaced, but most of our sources are progressive anyway.
This vid, however, was shot with the Z7 camcorder. Coulda used a little more bump in the exposure/levels, the compression reduces the image by about a stop.
If you have specific questions about the template, drop me a PM.

I have just built a new Quad core Core 2 Duo Exteme edition computer with 4G RAM and an 8800GT graphics card. I installed Vegas, updated to 8.0b and was off and running happily. I was editting AVCHD files from my Sony SR11 camera like it was nothing.

However, 8.0b only supported HDV resolutions of 1440x1080.
So when 8.0c came out with support for 'full' HD (1920x1080), I was all over it. That was today. That was when the proverbial sh*t hit the fan. Now, I can't render *any* Sony AVC files. Vegas will do one of three things:

1. Disappear without a trace; one second it's there rendering, the next it's completely gone

2. Give a generic error message that isn't too helpful or it will give a stack trace

3. Not say anything, continuing to appear to be rendering, but the Frame count is stuck (never increments) - and of course Vegas just sits there doing nothing.

For #2 I can quit the application. For #3 I have to 'kill' the application with Task Manager.

For #1 there's nothing to quit/kill. Vegas has gone bye-bye.

I guess I should say that I *was* having success rendering 1920x1080 files for about an hour or so, then BAM! it all went south.

I have XP (32bit) SP3. I noticed today that the release notes for 8.0c have SP2 as requirements. Is SP3 the culprit here?

Finally, at the moment Vegas is rendering just fine with MainConcept AVC/AAC with custom template. 1920x1080, CBR 15,000,000. Looks like it completed 100% fine. But no 5.1 surround with this render :^(

I really want to use the Sony AVC coded because it's my expectation that that better matches my camera's native AVCHD/mt2s format.

Is anyone else having problems (ie: constant crashing) when rending to 1920x1080 AVCHD files using the Sony AVC codec?

For the #3 problem you mention, don't kill the task.

IF it is the following situation:

1) The frame count is not advancing.
2) The render timer is still running.
3) The CPU load for Vegas is down to 0% or close to it.

Launch a NEW session of Vegas Pro 8.

When it launches, your original render should magically continue.

I don't work with AVCHD, but I base this on when my renders occassionally stall, launching a new session always wakes them up for me.

Try it, it's worth a shot.

ScorpioProd - I'll give that a shot tonight and let you know how it goes. Thanks for the tip.

I've been using Vegas (and recommending it to everyone I know) since 4.0. I've had 2 or 3 crashes total before 8.0 came out. It's very sad to see the quality of the one app that I always had faith in deteriorate so quickly :^(

ScorpioProd - that didn't work :^(
After the frame count stops incrementing (but the timers keep incrementing) I brought up a second .veg file. The only affect this had on the first (stalled) Vegas was to set the frame count to 0 (it was 51).

I tried again but this time not opening an existing .veg file and instead just starting Vegas. Same affect.

I have SP3 - is this not a good idea? From 8.0c release notes:

The following lists the minimum system requirements for using Sony Creative Software Inc. Vegas Pro software:
Microsoft® Windows® XP SP2 or Windows Vista™

Note they say 'SP2' and not SP3.

mrief

no problems running with sp3.

mine is:

since i up'd to 8c everything has been going well, except that i now find pro type has a tendency to 'flash' (sort of pulse on and off) quite rapidly while i'm working in it. this doesn't affect what i do, but it is most disturbing.

anyone else suffering?

leslie

Hi,

What kind of "flashing" do you mean? I have noticed that in 8.0c the video previed window image flashes a couple of times when I stop the timeline playback. This is annoying and disturbing, but obviously does not affect the workflow. I'm running 8.0c on Vista 64 bit.

Additionally the appication just dies on me quite often, it just disappears without a trace. What kind of bug in general can cause such behaviour?

It seems that we have to start to wait and beg for 8.0d...

Christian

Don't know if this thread is only for 8.0c but anyway..

Installed 8.1 - 64bit version and Vegas now no longer sees my Blackmagic Decklink in Preview Preferences.
Kinda makes this version not usable for us - we make broadcast TVC's and need the SDI out and Digibeta tape control.
(Maybe I'll take the "Pro" back out of the name on the 64bit icon)

Anyone else have the same happen ?

Currently, v8.1 is only useful if you can do the entire project using only the tools built-in to Vegas (although there are a few third-party script-based plugins that will work.) The BMD Declink or Intensity cards don't yet work. I suspect that this will change, but I'm not expecting that anytime soon.

v8.1 works really well for what it is, but it's essentially a brand new version of Vegas that is just barely out of beta. I've used it for a few straight DV and HDV projects and it is noticeably more responsive than the 32-bit v8.0c. It also renders faster as well. It's a nice start and I'm looking forward to its further development.

hi christisn,

sort of 'flickers', doesn't disappear, but regularly 'blinks' rapidly. very disturbing since none of the other panels behave like it - then again, they don't have previews in them i suppose.

anyway, i sort of avoided using pro tt for a long time as being too buggy, but this 'whatever' is really disturbing, like you, it doesn't stop my work flow, and unlike you i fortunately haven't had it go awol - but that's now a worry...

pity cause i think it's got great potential, but i'm too disturbed using it.

leslie

mrief if have exactly the same 3 problems as you posted at 9/17/2008 7:36:22 AM - all three symptoms on 8.0c

In addition I also can't render @ 1440, exactly the same set of issues.

My config is XP SP3 Core 2 Quad Q6600 3GB RAM - looks a bit familiar doesn't it!

Previously on 8.0b I could render to AVCHD and review on a playstation 3 but couldn't import back into Vegas. This was fixed on 8.0c I now can't render most of my work, although that particular render did work fine it was teh first one I rendered (about an hour) all others since have failed.

If I render small files < 30secs it seems to work fine.

I played back one of the renders that had failed. This one had incremented the frame count but the screen went black. These blank bits (whole clips) were on the rendered video as well. The whole lot fell over with a generic error before it finished!

I want to preserve the HD and 5.1 surround sound - it is why I went to Vegas from premier.

Any ideas on a workaround?


PS I am trying the mainconcept codec and that seems to be fine - just no 5.1.

Steve

I'm trying to keep from making a separate thread (especially since this the OP was asking about 8C not 8.1)so I'm posting this again....anyone?

A little over a month ago I went from V5 to V8.
I like some of the "new" editing features in V8 but I used to have 3 or 4 instances of V5 open and not have a problem with the external preview.
Now when I switch from one instance to another it sometimes either stays on the previous preview or I get a blue screen (however if I turn my deck off and back on that usually sets it to the current instance).
My question is, from everything I've read so far about this update (V8 C not V8.1 because I am still XP Pro 32 bit working with SD only) it will not help my issue...would you agree ?
Thanks,
Randy

"I want to preserve the HD and 5.1 surround sound - it is why I went to Vegas from premier.

Download TSmuxer (it's free).

Render out your video as a M2V (or some other format that tsmuxer supports.... which quite a few), then render out a separate AC3 file. Import these to TSmuxer and Mux the audio/video. Your output file will be a DD5.1 M2TS file.

Update on my situation.

I wanted to go back to 8.0b but didn't see the b patch on the web site. Sony support told me where all the patches are kept so I'm passing that along in case other folks didn't know this either:

http://download.sonycreativesoftware.com/current

Specifically, for me, I downloaded this:

http://download.sonycreativesoftware.com/current/vegaspro80b_enu.exe

I un-installed Vegas (via Control Panel), re-installed 8.0, applied the 'b' patch and I'm up and running. I'm rendering an AVCHD file right now. It's "only" 1440x1080 (8.0c supports 1920x1080), but it actually works.

When I'm done with my current project, I may try 8.0c again - because it worked for a brief moment of time (an hour?) before dying on me. For now, it's 8.0b for me.

Steve (theendisnye), you could try going back to 8.0b. So far it's worked for me.

Mike

I have gone back to 8.0b and it works,. I have been advised by Sony to render to an intermediate format to edit on the Vegas timeline. Go to File > Render As. The Save As Type should be set to "Video For Windows (*.AVI)" and the Template should be set to "HDV 1080-60i Intermediate". Now click Save. The files will be saved as an AVI that utilizes the Cineform HD V2.5 codec. It retains all the detail from the M2TS file.

Hopefully that will allow me to render and import the rendered material maintaining 5.1 - I have a test going on as I write.
Steve

Hi guys,

Until now my only problem was. I install it over 8b I need it to capture some HDV footedge and Vegas just crashed 10m to 14m minutes after I started capturing. This happens every time I started the capturing process. At the first time I thought i was the footedge recorded on tape maybe got some errors, then and I tried another tape, but unfortunately with the same results. Next step, uninstall and install the Vegas Pro 8c application again and it worked, it's now functioning normally. I have once again the HDV capture as i was before, it's a pit Sony didn't solve the end frames problem on HDV clips.