Best Way To Increase The Saturation Of Video

MH7 wrote on 2/2/2023, 9:04 PM

As per the title of this thread, I’m wondering what is the best way to increase the saturation of my 4K videos. They are recorded with the 4K video camera mentioned in my sig below. I’m using VEGAS Pro 18 (Build 527, IIRC). If it helps I have put a 4K video recorded with my camera, the details of it from MediaInfo, below.

General
CompleteName                     : D:\Videos\Sony AX700 4K Videos\C0003.MP4
Format/String                    : XAVC
CodecID/String                   : XAVC (XAVC/mp42/iso2)
FileSize/String                  : 13.6 GiB
Duration/String                  : 19 min 55 s
OverallBitRate_Mode/String       : Variable
OverallBitRate/String            : 97.6 Mb/s
Encoded_Date                     : UTC 2019-08-07 07:16:50
Tagged_Date                      : UTC 2019-08-07 07:16:50

Video
ID/String                        : 1
Format/String                    : AVC
Format/Info                      : Advanced Video Codec
Format_Profile                   : High@L5.1
Format_Settings                  : CABAC / 2 Ref Frames
Format_Settings_CABAC/String     : Yes
Format_Settings_RefFrames/String : 2 frames
CodecID                          : avc1
CodecID/Info                     : Advanced Video Coding
Duration/String                  : 19 min 55 s
BitRate_Mode/String              : Variable
BitRate/String                   : 95.9 Mb/s
BitRate_Maximum/String           : 100.0 Mb/s
Width/String                     : 3 840 pixels
Height/String                    : 2 160 pixels
DisplayAspectRatio/String        : 16:9
FrameRate_Mode/String            : Constant
FrameRate/String                 : 25.000 FPS
ColorSpace                       : YUV
ChromaSubsampling/String         : 4:2:0
BitDepth/String                  : 8 bits
ScanType/String                  : Progressive
Bits-(Pixel*Frame)               : 0.462
StreamSize/String                : 13.3 GiB (98%)
Encoded_Date                     : UTC 2019-08-07 07:16:50
Tagged_Date                      : UTC 2019-08-07 07:16:50
colour_range                     : Limited
colour_primaries                 : BT.709
transfer_characteristics         : xvYCC
matrix_coefficients              : BT.709
Metas                            : 4
CodecConfigurationBox            : avcC

Audio
ID/String                        : 2
Format/String                    : PCM
Format_Settings                  : Big / Signed
CodecID                          : twos
Duration/String                  : 19 min 55 s
BitRate_Mode/String              : Constant
BitRate/String                   : 1 536 kb/s
Channel(s)/String                : 2 channels
SamplingRate/String              : 48.0 kHz
BitDepth/String                  : 16 bits
StreamSize/String                : 219 MiB (2%)
Encoded_Date                     : UTC 2019-08-07 07:16:50
Tagged_Date                      : UTC 2019-08-07 07:16:50

Other
ID/String                        : 3
Type                             : Time code
Format/String                    : QuickTime TC
Duration/String                  : 19 min 55 s
FrameRate/String                 : 25.000 FPS
TimeCode_FirstFrame              : 00:19:16:08
TimeCode_LastFrame               : 00:39:11:24
TimeCode_Stripped/String         : Yes
Encoded_Date                     : UTC 2019-08-07 07:16:50
Tagged_Date                      : UTC 2019-08-07 07:16:50

Last changed by MH7

John 14:6 | Romans 10:9-10, 13, 10:17 | Ephesians 2:8-9
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Aussie VEGAS Post 20 User As Of 9th February 2023 (Upgraded from VEGAS Pro 18)

VEGAS Pro Help: VEGAS Pro FAQs and TROUBLESHOOTING GUIDES

My YouTube Channel: https://www.youtube.com/@TechWiredGeek

Video Cameras: Sony FDR-AX700 and iPhone 12 (iOS 16)

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My Productivity Workstation (AKA - The Rocket Ship)

CPU: AMD R7 1700 @ 3GHz

Motherboard: Gigabyte AX370 Gaming 5

RAM: Corsair Vengeance (4x8GB) 32GB DDR4

Storage: Samsung 850 EVO 250GB SSD & WD 2TB HDD

GPU: Gigabyte RX 580 (8GB)

OS: Windows 10 (Build: 21H2)

Main Monitor: LG 27UD88-W 4K IPS

Secondary Monitor: LG 27UL850 4K HDR IPS

Comments

RogerS wrote on 2/2/2023, 9:17 PM

All colors or just some? Color grading panel or color corrector secondary or NewBlue Fx if you have them.

Custom PC (2022) Intel i5-13600K with UHD 770 iGPU with 31.0.101.4091 driver, MSI z690 Tomahawk motherboard, 64GB Corsair DDR5 5200 ram, NVIDIA 2080 Super (8GB) with latest studio driver, 2TB Hynix P41 SSD, Windows 11 Pro 64 bit

Dell XPS 15 laptop (2017) 32GB ram, NVIDIA 1050 (4GB) with latest studio driver, Intel i7-7700HQ with Intel 630 iGPU (driver 31.0.101.2115), dual internal SSD (256GB; 1TB), Windows 10 64 bit

Vegas 19.648
Vegas 20.236

VEGAS 4K "sample project" benchmark: https://forms.gle/ypyrrbUghEiaf2aC7
VEGAS Pro 20 "Ad" benchmark: https://forms.gle/eErJTR87K2bbJc4Q7

MH7 wrote on 2/2/2023, 9:26 PM

All colors or just some? Color grading panel or color corrector secondary or NewBlue Fx if you have them.

All colours. When I white balanced in camera, it looks mostly fine, it’s just that I know the colours could look more lifelike, if that makes sense. But, I don’t want too much saturation. I just want the colours to look natural.

Last changed by MH7 on 2/2/2023, 9:30 PM, changed a total of 1 times.

John 14:6 | Romans 10:9-10, 13, 10:17 | Ephesians 2:8-9
————————————————————————————————————

Aussie VEGAS Post 20 User As Of 9th February 2023 (Upgraded from VEGAS Pro 18)

VEGAS Pro Help: VEGAS Pro FAQs and TROUBLESHOOTING GUIDES

My YouTube Channel: https://www.youtube.com/@TechWiredGeek

Video Cameras: Sony FDR-AX700 and iPhone 12 (iOS 16)

============================================

My Productivity Workstation (AKA - The Rocket Ship)

CPU: AMD R7 1700 @ 3GHz

Motherboard: Gigabyte AX370 Gaming 5

RAM: Corsair Vengeance (4x8GB) 32GB DDR4

Storage: Samsung 850 EVO 250GB SSD & WD 2TB HDD

GPU: Gigabyte RX 580 (8GB)

OS: Windows 10 (Build: 21H2)

Main Monitor: LG 27UD88-W 4K IPS

Secondary Monitor: LG 27UL850 4K HDR IPS

RogerS wrote on 2/3/2023, 12:23 AM

I'd suggest color grading panel to start with for global adjustments and then consider selective color adjustments using say color corrector secondary to balance saturation of elements (skin, foliage, sky, etc.) to taste.

Custom PC (2022) Intel i5-13600K with UHD 770 iGPU with 31.0.101.4091 driver, MSI z690 Tomahawk motherboard, 64GB Corsair DDR5 5200 ram, NVIDIA 2080 Super (8GB) with latest studio driver, 2TB Hynix P41 SSD, Windows 11 Pro 64 bit

Dell XPS 15 laptop (2017) 32GB ram, NVIDIA 1050 (4GB) with latest studio driver, Intel i7-7700HQ with Intel 630 iGPU (driver 31.0.101.2115), dual internal SSD (256GB; 1TB), Windows 10 64 bit

Vegas 19.648
Vegas 20.236

VEGAS 4K "sample project" benchmark: https://forms.gle/ypyrrbUghEiaf2aC7
VEGAS Pro 20 "Ad" benchmark: https://forms.gle/eErJTR87K2bbJc4Q7

Grazie wrote on 2/3/2023, 1:26 AM

@MH7 - "When I white balanced in camera, it looks mostly fine, it’s just that I know the colours could look more lifelike, if that makes sense."

You make total, TOTAL, sense! I understand completely. Prior to the latest CGP developments, I'd been experimenting with a combination of NewBlue Colorfast2 plus a range of BORIS plug:

3POINT wrote on 2/3/2023, 4:07 AM

Give the Auto Color levels feature in the Vegas CGP a try:

@jetdv wrote a few weeks ago a script for me to apply this feature to a range of selected clips in batch. I use it now daily.

jetdv wrote on 2/3/2023, 8:43 AM

@3POINT, that tutorial will be out on my youtube channel on May 15th.

3POINT wrote on 2/3/2023, 1:30 PM

@3POINT, that tutorial will be out on my youtube channel on May 15th.

This year or next year....just kidding...

What is special about May the 15th that you choose that date?

jetdv wrote on 2/3/2023, 1:56 PM

@3POINT, I have tutorials scheduled every week between now and that date. It was just the next Monday for a tutorial to be scheduled once I got it recorded and edited. So nothing "special" about that date - it was just the next Monday. This Monday finishes this 6 part series and the following Monday starts a new 4 part series, the a 2 part series, then a 3 part series, you get the idea. I do like having the cushion but it is sometimes bad when it takes so long for a specific tutorial to be released. I also had not expected so many multi-part tutorials to hit at the same time.

3POINT wrote on 2/3/2023, 2:04 PM

@jetdv understood, I wasn't aware that you're working on series of tutorials. Grateful that you found time to write that script in between.

ALO wrote on 2/3/2023, 6:11 PM

As a starting point, assuming your color balance is correct, the best way to add saturation is to add contrast via the Color Curves fx or the Curves in the Color Grading panel.

Howard-Vigorita wrote on 2/4/2023, 1:21 PM

@MH7 If it's All Colors you want to target, use a saturation slider. That's exactly what it does. There are saturation sliders in Saturation Adjust, HSL Adjust, Lab Adjust, Color Corrector, Color Correction (Secondary), etc which can be added to FX chains. It also appears on the HSL and Utility tabs of the Color Grading Panel. I usually tweak it a little on the HSL tab of CGP after I finish the rest of the grade.