Computer configuration to ensure proper operation of Vegas 20 for 4K

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RogerS wrote on 11/25/2022, 6:31 AM

 

It's just one guy has a working setup? Can you brainstorm instead of burying your head in the sand?

It's not "one guy." Look for the signature under each post. It's in blue with a plus sign.

Did you try your Intel decoder yet? If so do that instead of burying your head in the sand. Your NVIDIA GPUs are not better at decoding than the Intel iGPU in Vegas.

Wolfgang S. wrote on 11/25/2022, 8:14 AM

I tried AMD 6750, Nvidia 1660, Nvidia 1080 - drivers in Studio version, as well as work without GPU on integrated graphics with the processor. The program crashes on Nvidia.

I thin your GPUs are outdated a little bit. Not sure if they meet the specifications of Vegas. The AMD card seems to be the best, I would change the nvidia cards to more actual cards.

You can't even send a bug report to Vegas because you have to restart your computer. With AMD, it does not hang, but the preview is a few frames per second, and a large delay in the program's response.

Here we would need your more details - what about the processor, what about the project settings you use?

I use materials recorded on Sony A7S3 4k/50p 150MB /sec. Disks on Synology File Server.

Not sure if the Synology system is fast enough to allow to edit directly from the NAS. Has Synology now been allow the use of 10GB/s connections? I have an Synology System here too - BUT to be able to edit UHD files from the NAS I had to switch to a QNAP NAS with a 10 GB connection. What connection do you use?

Preview set to Half. Hard drives connected directly to the computer also do not bring improvement. RAM 64Gb. I also set the priority in Windows for Vegas to High. I don't have 25p content from my smartphone. All my productions are from professional cameras and mirrorless cameras.

I would really love to see the full specifications of your system. And things like project settings. Without that, it is hard to say anything.

Desktop: PC AMD 3960X, 24x3,8 Mhz * RTX 3080 Ti (12 GB)* Blackmagic Extreme 4K 12G * QNAP Max8 10 Gb Lan * Resolve Studio 18 * Edius X* Blackmagic Pocket 6K/6K Pro, EVA1, FS7

Laptop: ProArt Studiobook 16 OLED * internal HDR preview * i9 12900H with i-GPU Iris XE * 32 GB Ram) * Geforce RTX 3070 TI 8GB * internal HDR preview on the laptop monitor * Blackmagic Ultrastudio 4K mini

HDR monitor: ProArt Monitor PA32 UCG-K 1600 nits, Atomos Sumo

Others: Edius NX (Canopus NX)-card in an old XP-System. Edius 4.6 and other systems

Piotr-Diszer wrote on 11/25/2022, 8:25 AM

 

For today I have Terramaster D2-310. But always connect manually one of the 40 drives directly to the sata in the computer. Because to the ecological instead of spinning so many discs non-stop, to work on one. I do not use NAS, RAID, I encourage you to use a spare disk and put the disk at rest on the shelf. if I install drives in Qnap, e.g. 4 slots, should I install a second network card in the computer? Is network television with a file server a program than a disk connected to the motherboard? I have the system on the M2

Camera: Sony A7S3 4K - 50p 150 mB/s, Sony A7S 1080 / 50P, Panasonic GH5 4K / 50p, Panasonic GX80 HD / 50p, Gopro 8 4K 50p, Gopro9 4K / 50p, Mavic DJI Mini PRO 4K / 50p. Computer A: Microsoft Windows 11 Pro, Intel i7-9700K CPU @ 3.60GHz, Asrock Z390 Pro4, RAM 32GB, SSD NVMe M.2 Kingston 1TB, GTX1660i. Driver Nvidia Studio 531.41. Computer B: Microsoft Windows 10 Pro, Intel i7 4770, Ram DDR 3 32GB, Asus Z87A, Nvidia Geforce 1660Ti, SSD Adata 1TB.

Wolfgang S. wrote on 11/25/2022, 8:35 AM

The TERRAMASTER D2-310 has an USB3.1 as I have seen - so 5Gbps. Hope that his is fast enough, but I am not sure about that. Also, drives connected directly to the SATA should be fast enough for HD too. But to measure the speed would be a nice idea, and to calculate if that works out really.

I had a lot of singel discs in my former days. But if you think in ecological footprint, the 40 drives are more significant then one good system - and I run my Qnap NAS as raid 5.1 today. And yes, I installed a 10 GB network card in my computer for that reason.

I am not sure if I understand your point about the network television and file server. My systems are dedicated editings systems only, and I do not run a file server on the same machine used to edit footage - since that would take away performance to an unknown extend. 

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Desktop: PC AMD 3960X, 24x3,8 Mhz * RTX 3080 Ti (12 GB)* Blackmagic Extreme 4K 12G * QNAP Max8 10 Gb Lan * Resolve Studio 18 * Edius X* Blackmagic Pocket 6K/6K Pro, EVA1, FS7

Laptop: ProArt Studiobook 16 OLED * internal HDR preview * i9 12900H with i-GPU Iris XE * 32 GB Ram) * Geforce RTX 3070 TI 8GB * internal HDR preview on the laptop monitor * Blackmagic Ultrastudio 4K mini

HDR monitor: ProArt Monitor PA32 UCG-K 1600 nits, Atomos Sumo

Others: Edius NX (Canopus NX)-card in an old XP-System. Edius 4.6 and other systems

Cmin7669 wrote on 1/11/2023, 5:07 PM

Can anybody tell me if Vegas content will download 4K video files? The highest it shows is 1080.mp4, even when I choose a 4K video.

Howard-Vigorita wrote on 1/11/2023, 5:45 PM

@Piotr-Diszer If you look at my signature, you'll see 6 systems which run Vegas better than in your experience. As an fwi, I don't disable the igpu in any of the ones that have one. And try to find ways to make up for the ones that don't. I generally stick to default Vegas preference settings unless I confirm for myself that a different setting gives me better results. I also test driver updates before and after in the same manner. I also like to download user clips for new cameras and try them myself before running out and buying based only on advertising hype. And do the same by trying to pay attention to user experiences with gpus before running out and buying them too... though sometimes I can't resist.

Cmin7669 wrote on 1/11/2023, 5:46 PM

I saw a contributor video showing 4K on this list

Howard-Vigorita wrote on 1/11/2023, 5:52 PM

Can anybody tell me if Vegas content will download 4K video files? The highest it shows is 1080.mp4, even when I choose a 4K video.

@Cmin7669 1st one I tried... the shorter runtimes are probably 4k because they're bigger to upload or download,

EDIT: got Post

Reyfox wrote on 1/11/2023, 5:53 PM

From the Vegas website:

Royalty-free stock content (Edit: limited, Pro: unlimited HD, Post: unlimited up to 4K). So you would have to have Vegas Post to get 4K. Vegas Edit and Vegas Pro are limited to 1080HD.

Cmin7669 wrote on 1/11/2023, 6:41 PM

OK, that explains it then, I only have post 19 which is not compatible so I'm told.

Marcin-Przytulski wrote on 4/11/2023, 2:20 PM

gdzie sie wlacza igpu w vegas ?

Piotr-Diszer wrote on 4/12/2023, 2:20 AM

HOVARD - VIGORITA - Hello. I work on Sony A7S3 4K 50p / 150mBs, A7S 1080 / 50p, Panasonic GH5 4k / 50P, Sony PXW-X200 1080/50P MXF, audio recorder Tascam WAV / 48kHz.

 

Your signature is very positive. I tried your specification Intel ARC770 and the program runs slower than GTX1660 but it doesn't crash. however with Intel ARC it breaks rendering every time. It doesn't show what error. while GTX1660 is always the same error

<FaultModule>

<Name>NVIDIA CUDA 12.1.98 OpenCL 1.2 Driver, Version 531.41 </Name>

<Filename>C:\Windows\System32\DriverStore\FileRepository\nv_dispsig.inf_amd64_3330f4136731b2d4\nvopencl64.dll</Filename>

This is my worst problem that I face several times a day.

The error repeats itself with one specific operation, so there is some error pattern, I marked it in the 45 second video. Always after hovering over the clip that is above

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1l1Ddctbq8mKJoFbaUyT4ZGPUlo2g2KYM/view?usp=share_link.[[VIDEO_V2:04DD1745413D430AABEAF47457F9BAC4]]

Camera: Sony A7S3 4K - 50p 150 mB/s, Sony A7S 1080 / 50P, Panasonic GH5 4K / 50p, Panasonic GX80 HD / 50p, Gopro 8 4K 50p, Gopro9 4K / 50p, Mavic DJI Mini PRO 4K / 50p. Computer A: Microsoft Windows 11 Pro, Intel i7-9700K CPU @ 3.60GHz, Asrock Z390 Pro4, RAM 32GB, SSD NVMe M.2 Kingston 1TB, GTX1660i. Driver Nvidia Studio 531.41. Computer B: Microsoft Windows 10 Pro, Intel i7 4770, Ram DDR 3 32GB, Asus Z87A, Nvidia Geforce 1660Ti, SSD Adata 1TB.

RogerS wrote on 4/12/2023, 4:16 AM

Which system did you put the Intel ARC into? A or B?

Did you replace the 1660 or are both installed? Try having Intel ARC handle AVC and HEVC decoding in preferences/ file io as the hang you showed might be a NVDEC issue.

Not sure about render crashes with ARC. You are rendering to QSV?

Howard-Vigorita wrote on 4/12/2023, 11:37 AM

@Piotr-Diszer If you are getting crashes rendering, it's probably something amiss with the driver install. Whenever I have trouble with a new driver release, I find it best to uninstall with DDU to wipe the slate clean before a reinstall. I'm having good luck with the driver versions listed in my signature.

Btw, not clear what you're doing with the igpu. Vegas can select the decoding hardware but not what's used for Qsv rendering. I think it gets confused seeing both an Intel igpu and an Intel Arc. And your setup will need 2 different Intel drivers installed for both to function properly together. I find it best to forget about the igpu, disable it in bios, and then uninstall the Intel drivers with DDU followed by a reinstall of the latest Arc drivers. You might want reinstall Nvidia drivers after removing them with DDU to make sure they're also whistle clean.