Help Grazie spend his dosh!

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TheRhino wrote on 6/24/2019, 7:39 AM

@TheRhino

Last year I was thinking about upgrading my i7-8700k CPU to an i9-9900k... However, if I would build up a new system, I would take the i9-9900k  or wait a little for the upcoming Intel CPU generation.

I typically do not upgrade the CPU/MB/RAM/GPU combo until I can get about 2X the performance from <$1500 USD in upgrades. However, it's different if your motherboard can handle the power requirements of the 9900K, you can just drop-in the 9900K without reinstalling Windows & apps, & then resell your 8700K to a gamer, etc...

My old Xeons were not fast-enough to get me through new 4K work scheduled for this summer, so I had to upgrade before the release of Zen2, otherwise I would have waited a few months to see how Vegas performs on a 16-core Zen2 3950X with higher clocks than the current Threadripper series... IMO the Zen2 3950X will have the best Vegas speeds for a <$800 USD CPU, but the 3950X won't be released until closer to the holidays...

Workstation D with $1,350 USD of upgrades in April, 2019
--$500 9900K @ 5.0ghz
--$140 Corsair i150i liquid cooling with 360mm radiator (3 fans)
--$200 open box Asus Z390 WS (PLX chip manages 4/5 PCIe slots)
--$160 32GB of G.Skill DDR4 3000
--$350 refurbished, but like-new Radeon Vega 64 LQ (liquid cooled)

Renders Vegas11 "Red Car Test" (QSV) in 13s-14s when clocked at 5.0 ghz
(note: BOTH onboard Intel & Vega64 show utilization during QSV renders...)

Source Video1 = 4TB RAID0--(2) 2TB M.2 on motherboard in RAID0
Source Video2 = 4TB RAID0--(2) 2TB M.2 (1) via U.2 adapter & (1) on separate PCIe card
Target Video1 = 32TB RAID0--(4) 8TB SATA hot-swap drives on PCIe RAID10 card

10G Network using cheap Mellanox2 Adapters
Copy of Work Files, Source & Output Video, OS Images on QNAP 653b NAS
Blackmagic Decklink PCie card for capturing from tape, etc.
(2) internal BR Burners connected via USB 3.0 to SATA adapters
Old Cooler Master CM Stacker ATX case with (13) 5.25" front drive-bays holds & cools everything.

Workstations A, B & C are 6-core 4.0ghz Xeon 5660 or I7 980x on Asus P6T6 motherboards.

Grazie wrote on 6/24/2019, 10:15 AM

I’ve been recommended to add a 4 Port SATA 3 (SATA 6Gb/s) Raid Card (0/1) Highpoint Rocket 640L Lite. I’ve kinda pigged-out and need this option.

toooo excited 😜

Grazie

PC 7 64-bit 16gb * Intel® Core™i7-2600k Quad Core 3.40GHz * 2GB NVIDIA GEFORCE GTX 560 Ti

PC 10 64-bit 64gb * Intel® Core™i9 - 3.3GHz * 40Gb NVIDIA  GeForce RTX 2070

Cameras: Canon XF300 + PowerShot SX60HS Bridge

fr0sty wrote on 6/24/2019, 11:02 AM

What kind of Raid array are you talking about? Striped or mirrored? If you want to stripe for additional speed, I'd suggest getting a setup to do an NvME raid, that will give you the fastest transfer speeds possible, though on your intel chip available PCIe lanes might become an issue (another reason I suggested AMD).

fr0sty wrote on 6/24/2019, 11:04 AM

@TheRhino

Last year I was thinking about upgrading my i7-8700k CPU to an i9-9900k... However, if I would build up a new system, I would take the i9-9900k  or wait a little for the upcoming Intel CPU generation.

I typically do not upgrade the CPU/MB/RAM/GPU combo until I can get about 2X the performance from <$1500 USD in upgrades. However, it's different if your motherboard can handle the power requirements of the 9900K, you can just drop-in the 9900K without reinstalling Windows & apps, & then resell your 8700K to a gamer, etc...

My old Xeons were not fast-enough to get me through new 4K work scheduled for this summer, so I had to upgrade before the release of Zen2, otherwise I would have waited a few months to see how Vegas performs on a 16-core Zen2 3950X with higher clocks than the current Threadripper series... IMO the Zen2 3950X will have the best Vegas speeds for a <$800 USD CPU, but the 3950X won't be released until closer to the holidays...

I think I'm going to ride out my 1800x until then. The price on those new Ryzens is just too good for the performance you get. Thankfully it uses the same socket as my current CPU, so the upgrade won't be too expensive.

Chief24 wrote on 6/24/2019, 11:05 AM

Nice 😉

I used one of HighPoints' cards in the past, the 2720SGL, as I was using SAS to SATA cables internally so I could go RAID 5/50/6. Wasn't worried about the RAID chip overheating as the case I had was large with plenty of air circulation, with a "side panel" fan that was actually blowing over it as well. They make good products, fairly inexpensive, and their software worked with Vista/Win7/Win10, all 64-Bit and the Pro or Enterprise Editions.

Me thinks you are planning your 4K future, sooner than later! Heh, Heh. Waiting to see "Monsta", and its results!

Self Build: MSI X399 Gaming Pro Carbon AC/1950X @ stock; 64GB Corsair 2666 Mhz; OS-Intel 750 800GB, Project Media-Samsung 960 EVO 1TB; (3) Samsung 850 EVO 500GB SSD for various (LightRoom & Photoshop), Render, Other Assets; Sapphire AMD Radeon VII; Vizio D43-F1 3840x2160 (TV); Windows 10 Pro 64-Bit (1809); (2) Intel 660p 2TB PCI-e on Asus Quad M.2x16; Magix Vegas Pro 15 Suite (416), Magix Movie Studio Platinum 15 Suite (157); Canon EOS 80D; GoPro Hero 5+ & 6 Black; Sony FDR AX-53 HandyCam; Sound Forge Studio 12.6; Creative SoundBlaster Zx sound card; Magix Music Maker Premium 2019

Peter_P wrote on 6/25/2019, 1:00 AM

Last year I was thinking about upgrading my i7-8700k CPU to an i9-9900k... However, if I would build up a new system, I would take the i9-9900k  or wait a little for the upcoming Intel CPU generation.

I typically do not upgrade the CPU/MB/RAM/GPU combo until I can get about 2X the performance from <$1500 USD in upgrades. However, it's different if your motherboard can handle the power requirements of the 9900K, you can just drop-in the 9900K without reinstalling Windows & apps, & then resell your 8700K to a gamer, etc...

@TheRhino

My actual board could well handle the i9-9900k but the performace difference I get with Vegas pro is too low compared to the additional heat and noise I would get. So I installed an AMD RX570 and got a very quiet system that performs very close to an i9-9900k system. Currently I would not finde a system with 2x performance of my actual i-8700k / AMD RX570 that already renders UHDp30 HEVC (VCE) with 0.7 x time of the video.

Grazie wrote on 6/25/2019, 7:06 AM

What kind of Raid array are you talking about?

@fr0sty - None. As the Builder told me: “This will be used for expansion only and will not be put in any RAID configuration.” Does this make sense?

 

Grazie

PC 7 64-bit 16gb * Intel® Core™i7-2600k Quad Core 3.40GHz * 2GB NVIDIA GEFORCE GTX 560 Ti

PC 10 64-bit 64gb * Intel® Core™i9 - 3.3GHz * 40Gb NVIDIA  GeForce RTX 2070

Cameras: Canon XF300 + PowerShot SX60HS Bridge

fr0sty wrote on 6/25/2019, 10:43 AM

If you are running out of SATA ports already, maybe worth adding a few more, but if I were buying for future hard drive expansion, I'd consider a card that can hold an nvme drive or two, as their price and capacity are sure to fall/rise. Ideally, you'd want one nvme to run your system, one to hold your current project, and the rest can be SATA.

SWS wrote on 7/3/2019, 8:43 AM

Been lurking on this from the beginning... would love to know what the final configuration ended up being and how things are running?!?😉

Grazie wrote on 7/3/2019, 8:55 AM

@SWS - Hiyah!

https://www.vegascreativesoftware.info/us/forum/help-grazie-spend-his-dosh--115726/?page=5

MONSTA! Arrived today. I'm also excited to see the outcomes. 😉

 

Grazie

PC 7 64-bit 16gb * Intel® Core™i7-2600k Quad Core 3.40GHz * 2GB NVIDIA GEFORCE GTX 560 Ti

PC 10 64-bit 64gb * Intel® Core™i9 - 3.3GHz * 40Gb NVIDIA  GeForce RTX 2070

Cameras: Canon XF300 + PowerShot SX60HS Bridge

SWS wrote on 7/3/2019, 9:22 AM

Super!!!