A good tool to downscale UHD footage to HD footage is still missing (using Lanczos 3).

The confusing Blend vs Interpolate field process issue..., can it be made more simplified?
http://www.sonycreativesoftware.com/forums/showmessage.asp?messageid=675142

heh! We just provided Magix about 2000 hours of free R&D :D

oooh oooh and one more,..

save custom motion key-frame presets.

So, for example if you want a photo to zoom in from right, then one to drop from above, next from left, etc. you just drag/drop/select the preset to quickly apply the motions over and over.

Gary, I often use nested .veg files, often many of them on the same timeline. If there is a bug in one of them, it can be difficult and time consuming to track down the veg file with the error, with many crashes and hangs along the way, especially if accidentally using .veg files from previous Vegas versions.

Would like to see something to help pinpoint nested files causing issues.

Thanks Gary.

>>>Just rewrite the base code, bring it up to modern specs.Keep the GUI and start over basically.

Yes!!! This is what will stop Vegas Pro from fading away. And in the process get-rid of any plug-ins that are not 100 percent compliant in 8-bit / 16-bit / 32-bit working environments.

...Adobe rewrote the underlying code-base to both Premiere and After-Effects over the past couple of years and it really shows. I can key a 4K green-screen video with a subtle drop-shadow while applying a skin-tone "smoothing" effect for the presenter's face, and it' all runs smoothly at real-time speed. With Vegas Pro 11 - 13 I can't even run the 4K green-screen footage without the key or any other effects at anything close to real-time speed. It's a slide-show when I try and play my footage in Vegas Pro.

Hey, TheDingo, that would be swell, but it is not going to happen! If VegasPro branding has been acquired by another entity, then it is possible that the brand could be applied to wholly different product and that might happen. But not likely!!

I think what most people of the previous VegasPro users care about is something along consistency with the past. To some degree that is why multiple build versions continue to be used by a lot of people. I for example run a business with a network server farm of seven workstations - all equipped with versions of VegasPro from version 8 thru 13 to build a formidable editing environment.

Yes, improvements are definitely sought, but the market for what VegasPro can be targeted to compete in just might not completely include everything under the sun.
Premiere did benefit from its Mercury engine, but the whole development process to get there is being paid for with big bucks and will be for sometime to come.

>>>Hey, TheDingo, that would be swell, but it is not going to happen!

I love the user interface and workflow of Vegas Pro ( I've been a Vegas user since it's Sonic Foundry days ), but I also work in Premiere and After Effects and the performance difference between the Adobe products and Vegas has become huge. If Vegas doesn't get an underlying code rewrite to bring it up to speed with it's competitors, I can't see myself staying with Vegas in the future. Especially if I can produce a finished product 4 - 5 times faster using Adobe's video products.

i.e. I need to produce 4 finished 4K videos for a project that I just shot. If I use Vegas it takes me 3-4 days to finish. If I use Adobe products I can finish it in one day. Guess which workflow I'm going to use.

-multiple timeline support
(I see references above to tabbed windows. That suggests separate projects open in same instance of Vegas. What I'd like is a project with a shared media bin with multiple sequences)

-envelopes for opacity, volume..etc on a per-event basis.
-compositing mode per-event.
-copy/paste select attributes from one event/track to another.
-pan/crop operation to be event-centric rather than the camera paradigm currently in place i.e. WYSIWYG
-border effect to be applied to post-Pan/Crop output rather than to full frame.

There are more. I'll add when I recall.

Thanks.

I started my own thread, but perhaps I need to add my wishlist to this thread.

Hello. As you can probably tell, there's a SUPER excited user base out here.

I've had some things that have weighed on my mind regarding Vegas and hope that I can include some things I would like in the next release:

1) A professional color grading/color correcting tool. Currently, Vegas' color grading tool leaves a lot to be desired. By professional, I mean: a) a color grading tool that allows LUTs to be used; b) a tool, like some of the higher end products, that allow users to color grade using layers (or nodes) to correct events; c) shapes (rectangles, ovals, etc), allowing users to color grade within, or outside, the shape; d) power windows that are trackable! (not keyframed, but able to track an object--perhaps a partnership with mocha would be in order so your developers don't have to reinvent the wheel)

2) Nesting is old and clunky! I've created an image showing tabs that would be a perfect solution to the old nesting technique. (If someone could email me (rgwhitaker@yahoo.com), I can submit the image). So, instead of nesting, why not use tabs: each tab being a new timeline. When I refer to tabs, I mean like the ones in a browser, and clicking on the + adds a new tab. Tabs could be clicked on to rename them to something useful, like "Scene 1," "Scene 2," etc. Then, when rendering, users can select a tab, or range of tabs, to render.

3) I recommend updating the plugin dialog boxes so that they have a more contemporary look, not the old Windows from the early 1990s look and feel.

4) Also, in my current version of SVP 13, you can add tags to clips, but they do not save with the .veg file. Once you exit Vegas, the tags are lost. That's a useless feature currently. I'd like to be able to add tags to clips and have it save with the .veg file.

5) For those who do green screens, a good chroma keyer is essential. Vegas' current chroma keyer is poor. I'd recommend partnering with the firm that Adobe partnered with to create their fantastic chroma keyer, as found in After Effects.

Wolfgang>
".. how many here have used Vegas on a modern 8-core system, equiped with actual more then one GPU .. working with DNG / x-log files and 10 or 12 bit footage."

This is me. My system is actually built around Redshift render for 3D GPU rendering with XSI, then down to Resolve then down from there to everything else. I'm running a 32 gig 12 core with a couple of 970's, but no deck link/aja unfortunately.

Honestly, I don't think any NLE is currently up to working with this footage currently. Prem can, but it's probably not at all fast. And although Resolve is great for handling this footage I stick to Vegas for proxy editing as Resolve has a long way to go for audio. FWIW I don't feel 'forced' to use Resolve, It's wonderful at what it does, but I still choose to cut in Vegas.

+1 on keeping the Vegas GUI intact.

Side note, I opened Magix again and all the sudden the prores playback is terrible, weird...

edit: then again last night and it's fine again......

Interested in the possibility of shared tech...

To add to what Shenan has said. Take all of the above information and save it as metatag data somehow so that importing clips into another project retains the keyword information. The new project could then also update keyword information to the same clips. I hope you see where I'm going with this.

@GaryRebholz
>> I don't understand why you would spread such negativity here

Me, I don't care that much about new features. I've been an enthusiastic Vegas owner for years, and I have even kept purchasing the new versions of Vegas even though it hasn't worked properly for me since Vegas 9. I REALLY want it to work, but at the moment it doesn't, and when I say it doesn't work, I don't mean that it is lacking features.

My situation is as follows:
1/ I own among other cameras, a Panasonic GH4
2/ I use FilmConvert

So - the GH4 footage isn't imported correctly into Vegas, this problem is somewhere between five and seven year old as far as I know, since it also apply to older Panasonic GH models. This is an irritant, but not a huge problem, I have scripts that fix it. However, the fact that it hasn't been fixed in years and years doesn't give me much of a confidence boost about the quality of the team in charge of Vegas.

Next, I apply FilmConvert to the clip, and Vegas crashes instantly. I got the FilmConvert plugin quite a while ago, and it always crashes Vegas. Every single version I've tried. This could be related to my PC, my graphics card, Vegas etc, it could be related to a lot of stuff, but...

Then I fire up Premiere Pro. It imports my GH4 footage no problems. I add a adjustment layer and apply Filmconvert. No crash. No issue. Everything just works.

I really don't like the work-flow of Premiere, but as it is the only solution that I have that works, Premiere it is. I have started thinking about upgrading my PC, it's a hexacore and works well, but my MacBook Pro is also quite awesome. Perhaps I'll use FCPX in the future, I'm not sure. If I do upgrade to a Mac as my workstation, I doubt I would put SCS software on it. Why should I?

There is a very important saying I used a lot when teaching sales staff how to maintain good relationships with their customers. It goes something like: "You build trust inch by inch. You tear it down mile by mile." A LOT of miles have gone by since Vegas 9.

Finally, we can all have hope that Vegas, under new management, will improve by leaps and bounds. I can understand that developers have such hope, but Gary, have you ever witnessed a situation where a SW company in trouble was purchased by another vendor, and the situation for the customers of the original vendor actually improved? I've witnessed a lot of acquisitions in my time, and I can't really think of any off the top of my head, where things were better twelve months after the acquisition than they were before.

Hello Magix and Eric!!

Glad to have you as developers going forward.

Magix is a top company and classy people. I have been on the Samplitude forum for 15 years. You guys Rock and your developers are TOP DRAWER. Total pros. I could not be happier.

I don't think there is another company so well positioned to move Vegas forward, and to understand that the STRAIGHT FORWARD WAY AUDIO PEOPLE have dealt with editing on a timeline has been transfered (through Soundforge) to Sony Vegas, and that straight forward approach to working in that fashion provides huge advantages, and bodes well for another "audio first" company to "GET THAT" and exploit that more fully...Nothing is as fast as Vegas. There are deeper programs, but not faster to get things done and done elegantly.

Suggested feature: (from Magix Samplitude world of editing)

Jump from one open Pan/Crop/Fx Event Editor to another without closing - as per Object Editing in Magix Samplitude, would hugely speedup editing and compositing. Easy thing with huge impact. IOW, the event editor is simply replaced by the new one, you don't have two or more open, as you click on the new, the other vanishes. Simple and fast.

Thanks and best regards!!

"-multiple timeline support"

FWIW
with vegas you can have multiple sessions running. and you can use a vegas file as a clip in another vegas session, similar to Resolve.

although, it may be a bit buggy....

I've checked Premiere Pro recently, and there are couple of things that Vegas lacks imo:

1. Morph Cut transition.
2. Nested sequences. Though this one is harder to implement I guess.

Edit:

3. Adobe's Warp stabilizer really rocks compared to Vegas'.

Is Nested Sequences like Nested Veg Files? I use that all the time.

Oh, I never knew this functionality exists in Sony Vegas! Sorry for this.

It's a little bit different in a sense that all vegs needs to be in separate files and needs saving "sub-vegs" but no need for additional video files and that's great.

I've just checked Premiere Pro because it's often a requirement on UpWork to use this particular software which is a shame because Vegas is better in my opinion.

Drawbacks of PP compared to Vegas:
1. It seems, it works in 18-235 blowing up whites and blacks in exported footage. This topic was raised many times in their forum but nobody seems to have a clue.
2. No video effects per video track.
3. Lack of ability to save audio chain presets for audio tracks.
There are many actually.

Don't Change the paradigm that's what they did with catalyst..
Stablize it
More codecs

Please do not break the support of old scripts and extensions during your rebranding. In the future, add more capabilities to scripting API.

Yes! I agree with Pinnacle (yet again)...

one option to indicate the Ripple is on is to change the background color of the Timeline. This could even be customizable by user preference. For example a Red Timeline might indicate that the Ripple Everything is on, and a Blue Timeline might indicate that Ripple Track is on, etc.

Hello Magix,

Please add the capability of Opacity to the Event Pan/Crop tool and maybe allow other options to be added as well.

I came across this limitation when I was trying to create those old VH1 Pop-Up style videos using Vegas Pro. (At each position in the video I have to change Opacity but I could not)

Composite Envelope is a track Property and the Pan/Crop tool is an event property so If I moved an event all sync is lost between the event pan/crop keyframes and any keyframes in the Opacity (composite) envelope.