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Vegas_Sebastian wrote on 8/14/2023, 8:16 AM

The initial release of VP21 does not support AV1.

VEGASDerek wrote on 8/14/2023, 8:31 AM

@Former user: AV1 support is currently being developed, but was not quite ready for the initial release of VEGAS Pro 21. We are hope to have this ready to release for an update to VP 21 before the end of the year assuming all testing goes well.

Former user wrote on 8/14/2023, 9:10 AM

@Former user: AV1 support is currently being developed, but was not quite ready for the initial release of VEGAS Pro 21. We are hope to have this ready to release for an update to VP 21 before the end of the year assuming all testing goes well.

ok thank for respond me :) i upgrade when av1 is usable...

RogerS wrote on 8/14/2023, 9:22 AM

Great to hear it's coming.

3POINT wrote on 8/14/2023, 9:41 AM

hi its just a simple question .... can now vegas pro use AV1 ???

 

Not tested yet, but I believe that it's already possible to export AV1 with Vegas through Voukoder for Vegas.

Granddadmd wrote on 8/14/2023, 11:26 AM

@Former user

Hi Matsuei,

I just installed VEGAS PRO Post 365 and can put AV1 on the timeline and edit without any problems

Granddadmd

Granddadmd wrote on 8/14/2023, 11:36 AM

@Former user

Here an example,how it works for me

Kind regards

granddadmd

Adis-a wrote on 8/14/2023, 2:04 PM

Um, that's AVI. Not AV1. :)

fr0sty wrote on 8/14/2023, 2:43 PM

An easy mistake to make :)

Granddadmd wrote on 8/15/2023, 3:08 AM

@fr0sty

Sorry,

I had the wrong glasses on, there is definitely a difference between AVi and AV1, apologies for that I had seen it wrong

granddadmd

Former user wrote on 8/15/2023, 3:58 AM

I noticed the VP21 promotional video on their website is AV1 (for me) probably not for those that don't have GPU decoding of AV1. Just as important is VP9 for sourcing footage from YouTube. Currently there doesn't seem to be much of a need to create AV1, and even less need to edit it, but if you want to use high quality YT video, then that comes in VP9. Mostly it's only extremely popular video that are AV1. Find a music video with a million views and you'll find AV1, but VP9 is the more usual high quality codec.

Yelandkeil wrote on 8/15/2023, 4:45 AM

I noticed the VP21 promotional video on their website is AV1 (for me) probably not for those that don't have GPU decoding of AV1. Just as important is VP9 for sourcing footage from YouTube. Currently there doesn't seem to be much of a need to create AV1, and even less need to edit it, but if you want to use high quality YT video, then that comes in VP9. Mostly it's only extremely popular video that are AV1. Find a music video with a million views and you'll find AV1, but VP9 is the more usual high quality codec.

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Howard-Vigorita wrote on 8/15/2023, 11:54 AM

I don't think av1 will really be necessary until camera makers start dropping hevc and replacing it with av1 in-camera. They keep talking about that in the surveillance camera market. Mostly for the huge licensing savings. Because av1 is license free and hevc licensing is both expensive and complicated. But I think the lack of av1 processors suitable for the inside of a camera may be the big hold up. The bigger pro/consumer makers like Canon and Sony make their own processors so I imagine as soon as one of them jumps in, the flood gates will open.

Fwiw, the quality analysis I've been able to do with ffmpeg and Intel encoders available to me don't show much quality or size difference between av1 and hevc. If I compare with Vegas legacy-hevc decoding, it comes out significantly ahead in quality every time. Ha, ha, somehow I can't picture Vegas doing a legacy-av1 to match.

Former user wrote on 8/15/2023, 7:07 PM

But I think the lack of av1 processors suitable for the inside of a camera may be the big hold up. The bigger pro/consumer makers like Canon and Sony make their own processors so I imagine as soon as one of them jumps in, the flood gates will open.

Security cameras too will be a huge winner when AV1 becomes achievable, quality is often so low due to streaming to recorders and phones at very low AVC bitrates, AV1 shines at low bitrates compared to AVC and HEVC

Fwiw, the quality analysis I've been able to do with ffmpeg and Intel encoders available to me don't show much quality or size difference between av1 and hevc

For streaming, now that YouTube allows both AV1 and HEVC, AV1 is much more impressive at these low bitrates. As far as editing these streams though, it's my understanding at least with Nvidia cards you can encode AV1 to the streaming encoder while at the same time recording in AVC for editing via NVENC. That would seem to be the sensible approach and wouldn't need to edit AV1