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FayFen wrote on 3/17/2023, 6:57 AM

What? they sold ~38K just few months ago.

Reyfox wrote on 3/17/2023, 7:40 AM

I think that it's fine. It's money for something that was finished a couple of years ago sitting on the servers doing nothing.

Someone looking to go "legit", this is a great offer.

FayFen wrote on 3/23/2023, 2:12 AM

7 days passed and only ~3.7K sold, about half from the last time.

 

 

walter-i. wrote on 3/23/2023, 3:04 AM

7 days passed and only ~3.7K sold, about half from the last time.

At some point the largest market is saturated.....

BondedOdin49 wrote on 3/23/2023, 3:45 AM

So how do I actually download it

I keep getting issues everywhere anytime I try

Things like "Vegas Pro 18.0 is already installed" or "A DLL required for this install to complete could not be run."

Reyfox wrote on 3/23/2023, 4:00 AM

@BondedOdin49 did you purchase it from Humble Bundle and follow the instructions?

walter-i. wrote on 3/23/2023, 4:06 AM

@BondedOdin49
Please understand that we can't really help here.
Humble Bundle is your contact.

BondedOdin49 wrote on 3/23/2023, 4:14 AM

I'm in pain

I'll complain to you guys later if it doesn't work then I guess

Damn I feel like an idiot

Reyfox wrote on 3/23/2023, 5:10 AM

@FayFen the software has already been done a couple of years ago. It's just sitting on servers taking up space. There is no cost to VEGAS or anyone else, so whatever money they receive, is profit. And there is nothing wrong with them extending the bundle longer.

andyrpsmith wrote on 3/23/2023, 6:39 AM

Also V18 is a good version I used for a year with very few problems and upgraded when V19 and then V20 came out.

Dexcon wrote on 3/23/2023, 6:54 AM

There is no cost to VEGAS or anyone else, so whatever money they receive, is profit. And there is nothing wrong with them extending the bundle longer.

Exactly. And it's a smart marketing approach in order to get a percentage of those VP18 buyers on to the Vegas 'hamster wheel' for upgrades and maybe even upgrading to Pro or POST. I got on to the BorisFX BCC hamster wheel years ago because BorisFX was very amenable with cross grading from Red to BCC at BCC upgrade pricing (not on offer at the time - I asked). Getting a long-term customer is important even if missing out on the original full purchase price.

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D drive: 6TB WD 7200 rpm Black HDD 3.5"

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FayFen wrote on 4/12/2023, 2:15 AM

Initially it was on for 21 days, they add another 3 weeks but it's the end of the barrel with less then 10K. The hype was in last December with ~38K bundles.

Reyfox wrote on 4/12/2023, 4:11 AM

I've pointed fellow editors who use other software to the bundle. They can have a fully working version of Vegas for the price of 3 Starbucks coffees.

It costs them no additional money to do this, and it's additional money to fund development.

walter-i. wrote on 4/12/2023, 6:44 AM

What will be left for the Vegas team - a Starbucks coffee or two?  
Humble Bundle will also pocket something for the service.

RogerS wrote on 4/12/2023, 6:49 AM

It's cheaper than paying for advertising. Looks like a customer acquisition strategy to me.

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Vegas 19.648
Vegas 20.270

VEGAS 4K "sample project" benchmark: https://forms.gle/ypyrrbUghEiaf2aC7
VEGAS Pro 20 "Ad" benchmark: https://forms.gle/eErJTR87K2bbJc4Q7

Reyfox wrote on 4/12/2023, 7:03 AM

@walter-i. you adjust how much who gets what from the sales. Humble will get a minimum of $9.14 of the sale. They are doing a lot of the heavy lifting. Hosting, setting up the download links and serial numbers and storing that information on their servers.

The max Magix can get is $21.31. You decide. So that's at least couple of Starbucks, but it's better than nothing. And it gets Vegas into the hands of those who have obtained it illegally, or those who have much earlier versions than VP18.

Even at the default setting, Magix gets $15.21. With over 9700 bundles sold, that is $147,537. Quite a few Starbucks coffees!! If it helps to fund continuing development of Vegas, I am for it.

BTW, I don't drink Starbucks, Costa, or any boutique coffee.

EricLNZ wrote on 4/12/2023, 7:14 AM

I wonder if there's much left for Magix after licensing fees have been paid?

Reyfox wrote on 4/12/2023, 7:24 AM

@EricLNZ a good question. I would think that they've taken that into consideration. But then, I don't know how much they would be paying for licensing fees for VP18.

walter-i. wrote on 4/12/2023, 7:30 AM

Yes, it will be aimed at "getting the thing out to the people" and hoping that those customers will buy upgrades in the future.

RogerS wrote on 4/12/2023, 8:00 AM

It's about customer acquisition (yes, there are license fees for codecs for even old versions) Magix is targeting non-upgrading users with discounted email offers for 19 as well as regular specials for 20. Pretty smart.

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Dell XPS 15 laptop (2017) 32GB ram, NVIDIA 1050 (4GB) with latest studio driver, Intel i7-7700HQ with Intel 630 iGPU (driver 31.0.101.2115), dual internal SSD (256GB; 1TB), Windows 10 64 bit

Vegas 19.648
Vegas 20.270

VEGAS 4K "sample project" benchmark: https://forms.gle/ypyrrbUghEiaf2aC7
VEGAS Pro 20 "Ad" benchmark: https://forms.gle/eErJTR87K2bbJc4Q7

Dexcon wrote on 4/12/2023, 8:13 AM

As I commented nearly 3 weeks ago on this topic:

... it's a smart marketing approach in order to get a percentage of those VP18 buyers on to the Vegas 'hamster wheel' for upgrades and maybe even upgrading to Pro or POST.

In marketing, this approach could well be a "loss leader" approach. Supermarkets do this regularly on the basis that you go into the supermarket to buy the "loss leader" item but end up also buying full price (thus profitable) items while in the store - the "loss leader" is just a lure to get you into the store to hopefully spend more $$$$. With the HB offer, buy VP as a "loss leader" and maybe end up getting hooked on the product.

Re OT coffee, Starbucks didn't work all that well in Australia because they failed to adapt to coffee 'tastes' in the country. They ended up closing a lot of Australian stores (pre-2020). But the worst coffee I've had in a long, long time was 3 weeks ago on a Qantas flight from Singapore to Melbourne - it was 60s/70s utter rubbish coffee. Interestingly, instant coffee is apparently making a comeback in AU - so my daily Nescafe instant looks like being trendy again.

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Installed: Vegas Pro 16 Edit, Vegas Pro 17 Edit, Vegas Pro 18, Vegas Pro 19 Edit, Vegas Pro 20 Edit, HitFilm Pro 2021.3, BCC 2023, Mocha Pro 2022.5.1, Ignite Pro, NBFX TotalFX 7, Neat NR, DVD Architect 6.0, MAGIX Travel Maps, Sound Forge Pro 16, SpectraLayers Pro 9, iZotope RX10 Advanced and many other iZ plugins, Vegasaur 4.0

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C drive: 1TB M.2 PCIe NVMe SSD

D drive: 6TB WD 7200 rpm Black HDD 3.5"

E & F drives: 2 x 2TB Barracuda HDDs 2.5"

 

VEGASDerek wrote on 4/12/2023, 6:05 PM

@EricLNZ a good question. I would think that they've taken that into consideration. But then, I don't know how much they would be paying for licensing fees for VP18.

In general it results in no profit whatsoever for us. As suggested, all the revenue pretty much goes to licensing costs, not just for VEGAS, but also for all the other bundled products. There is good reason VEGAS costs as much as it does. We have worked hard to keep licensing costs down over the last several years and this has allowed us to steadily lower the price of the latest versions.

Wolfgang S. wrote on 4/13/2023, 4:33 AM

In general it results in no profit whatsoever for us. As suggested, all the revenue pretty much goes to licensing costs, not just for VEGAS, but also for all the other bundled products. There is good reason VEGAS costs as much as it does. We have worked hard to keep licensing costs down over the last several years and this has allowed us to steadily lower the price of the latest versions.

If there is no contribution margin left, after deduction of the direct variable costs, then is is very friendly by Magix to allow users - who may be able to spend less money - to have access to older, but good products like VP18.

I think that should be appreciated really.