Lightening Round: 1 (ONLY) Great Vegas Feature AND 1 WORST performing

zdogg wrote on 10/1/2019, 1:45 AM

Describe your own best AND worst of Vegas, feature by feature. Keep it pithy, no long rants.

Rules: Must include One (ONLY) of EACH, per post (you can post again, however).

The "worst" feature can be bad performing OR missing feature.

Comments

zdogg wrote on 10/1/2019, 1:53 AM

I've got ideas, of course, but I want to see what others think, so I will hold back for now. The idea is to get a lot of ideas in a small amount of space, DON'T carry on too LONG...get to the meat, hit it and quit it!!

j-v wrote on 10/1/2019, 3:24 AM

I have only one.
My best feature with VP17 b 321 is that I can use all the sources I can make with my videocams, Gopro's and smartphones I can use alone and in all kind of combinations in whathever project I wish and can output in very high and also lower quality for all my purposes as big modern OLED TV screen, internet, smartphone, all kind of computers screens, laptops a.s.o. 😁😁😁😁😁😁😁😁😁😁

met vriendelijke groet
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wwjd wrote on 10/1/2019, 6:19 AM

BEST: Easy, fast drag drop editing

WORST: dirty GPU support

David Johns wrote on 10/1/2019, 6:56 AM

Best: the simplest, most intuitive, fast drag-and-drop editing on the planet

Worst: totally random lockups which need Ctrl-Alt-Del and Task Manager to close

alifftudm95 wrote on 10/1/2019, 8:27 AM

Best : Best UI ever

Bad: Lacking to create/custom made easy drag and drop preset (VEGAS still using outdated preset chain style)

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Kinvermark wrote on 10/1/2019, 9:50 AM

+1.

But also 😁

Best: Trimmer hover scrub & add to timeline.

Worst: performance bottlenecks around thumbnail generation (project media) and timeline composites (transitions, titles, etc.)

D7K wrote on 10/1/2019, 10:00 AM

Best: The whole is greater than the sum of the parts

Worst: Screen capture is a joke (but the AMD App works great so I am not bitching).

john_dennis wrote on 10/1/2019, 1:35 PM

Best: Nesting, I used it before it was cool.

Worst: Video hardware implementation over many versions of the product. This frustration is only topped by my frustration with the software industry as a whole that creates new user interfaces everyday to do the same stuff we've been doing for decades.

Former user wrote on 10/1/2019, 6:19 PM

Best: Event Pan/Crop and another 500 items, no room to mention.

Worst: Not being able to even get past the opening splash screen, VP17 first release.

Former user wrote on 10/1/2019, 8:05 PM

Best: UI

Worst: Inherently Unstable Software

karma17 wrote on 10/2/2019, 3:18 AM

Best: Ease of use + rendering options. (I don't enjoy editing on any other NLE like I do in Vegas. Very well laid out and easy to access everything.)

Worst: Buggy releases (I wish Vegas would have an extended beta testing period, so when the new version comes out there isn't a deluge of complaints and frustrations, esp. from those who early adopted.)

zdogg wrote on 10/3/2019, 12:55 AM

Best: GUI - WYSIWYG is the key to the popularity, things are straightforward, if sometimes inelegant.

Worst: GUI (Why? undeveloped to its full potential. It is hair-pullingly frustrating in its stagnation. IOW, they are resting on their "happy accident" laurels, born of Sonic Foundry's audio editor foundations, (not genius designers, as such) that they accidentally are better than every other POS GUI out there, and that is that, they do NOTHING to develop that, other than "hamburger" menus, (oh yeah, Storyboard, jury's out on that one) which are actually more of a PITA than a "advancement." New Color Panel has HORRIFIC interface.

The good routines are good to great, the conception: great.

The bad routines STAY PUT, and it pisses me off, quite frankly.

Grazie wrote on 10/3/2019, 2:06 AM

Best: Scripting.

Worst: The 3rd Partner User Experience. Whilst wanting/wishing the best for us, the Users, by inviting Third Party s/w and hardware - for me nVidia - houses to come to the Party, there's an almost Kremlin-like opaqueness/silence making us, the USERS invisibile to the Internal communications between each of them. MAGIX sits in the middle of this and needs to get a grip on this and bust down the doors allowing us, the USERS, to be part of the Product Development. Last month, and at my own expense, I travelled to IBC19@Amsterdam to visit one of the s/w "Partners" that we all know, and gave them a +2 hour full on User Experience - oh yes.

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Grazie

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zdogg wrote on 10/3/2019, 3:20 AM

So True Grazie.... We are out of the loop and the developers, good as they are, don't live in the real editing world, apparently. It's much too theoretical and not "hands on" enough.

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Grazie wrote on 10/3/2019, 5:52 AM

We are out of the loop .... It's much too theoretical and not "hands on" enough.

@zdogg - And it would benefit ALL of us, Users, Engineers, Marketeers, Sales 3rd Party Houses etc if this was rectified.

Dexcon wrote on 10/3/2019, 6:28 AM

… and gave them a +2 hour full on User Experience

I'd have loved to have been a fly on the wall for that. But with my luck, somebody nearby would've had a can of fly spray in use.

Cameras: Sony FDR-AX100E; GoPro Hero 11 Black Creator Edition

Installed: Vegas Pro 15, 16, 17, 18, 19, 20, 21 & 22, HitFilm Pro 2021.3, DaVinci Resolve Studio 19.0.3, BCC 2025, Mocha Pro 2025.0, NBFX TotalFX 7, Neat NR, DVD Architect 6.0, MAGIX Travel Maps, Sound Forge Pro 16, SpectraLayers Pro 11, iZotope RX11 Advanced and many other iZ plugins, Vegasaur 4.0

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D: drive: 4TB Samsung 870 SATA SSD (used for media for editing current projects)

E: drive: 2TB Samsung 870 SATA SSD

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Former user wrote on 10/3/2019, 6:49 AM

So True Grazie.... We are out of the loop and the developers, good as they are, don't live in the real editing world, apparently. It's much too theoretical and not "hands on" enough.

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And related to that, how many times have Vegas come out with new version of vegas or a revision and within hours users here have detected faults or incompatibilities. Why not invite those users in on the internal beta testing of Release Candidate . I know some people here are a part of it, but there mustn't be enough users.

Grazie wrote on 10/4/2019, 1:45 AM

@Dexcon - Lol! Sorry for the delay in responding, but I had to spend a day delivering World Peace; The Cure for the Common Cold; Global Warming and failing to determine just where I filed my last years Tax Returns. But yes, I’d really liked for you to have been there. Bottom line? It was all good, so much so I’ve been able to keep up the eml corres back now in Blighty. Already two major bugs I’d brought to their attention whilst at their Booth at IBC19 are presently being squashed and future User collaboration will be open for communication.

@Dexcon, I’m guessing, but you DO realise I was only joshing about my Tax Returns? Right?

Dexcon wrote on 10/4/2019, 6:13 AM

@ Grazie (no hyperlink appearing today)

First, thanks for reminding me about tax returns – mine must be lodged by the end of this month.

I’m very glad that the time you spent at IBC19 proved to be so productive and will hopefully lead to a much-improved experience for all of us VP users who also call upon certain 3rd party plug-ins (so many of which are already excellent).  Thank you for being so pro-active.

BTW, it wouldn’t seem the cure for the common cold thing has worked 100% - I’ve already started to get one today – sneezes, sniffles etc.

Cameras: Sony FDR-AX100E; GoPro Hero 11 Black Creator Edition

Installed: Vegas Pro 15, 16, 17, 18, 19, 20, 21 & 22, HitFilm Pro 2021.3, DaVinci Resolve Studio 19.0.3, BCC 2025, Mocha Pro 2025.0, NBFX TotalFX 7, Neat NR, DVD Architect 6.0, MAGIX Travel Maps, Sound Forge Pro 16, SpectraLayers Pro 11, iZotope RX11 Advanced and many other iZ plugins, Vegasaur 4.0

Windows 11

Dell Alienware Aurora 11:

10th Gen Intel i9 10900KF - 10 cores (20 threads) - 3.7 to 5.3 GHz

NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2080 SUPER 8GB GDDR6 - liquid cooled

64GB RAM - Dual Channel HyperX FURY DDR4 XMP at 3200MHz

C drive: 2TB Samsung 990 PCIe 4.0 NVMe M.2 PCIe SSD

D: drive: 4TB Samsung 870 SATA SSD (used for media for editing current projects)

E: drive: 2TB Samsung 870 SATA SSD

F: drive: 6TB WD 7200 rpm Black HDD 3.5"

Dell Ultrasharp 32" 4K Color Calibrated Monitor

 

LAPTOP:

Dell Inspiron 5310 EVO 13.3"

i5-11320H CPU

C Drive: 1TB Corsair Gen4 NVMe M.2 2230 SSD (upgraded from the original 500 GB SSD)

Monitor is 2560 x 1600 @ 60 Hz

Grazie wrote on 10/4/2019, 6:36 AM

@Dexcon - And, I just cured the Hyperlink!

Dexcon wrote on 10/4/2019, 8:27 AM

Best: Ease of use (e.g. instant dissolves)

Worst: Poor timeline performance with AVCHD.

@ Grazie ... sadly, it seems that the Hyperlink cure hasn't rippled through to this post as yet (TIC).

Last changed by Dexcon on 10/4/2019, 8:36 AM, changed a total of 1 times.

Cameras: Sony FDR-AX100E; GoPro Hero 11 Black Creator Edition

Installed: Vegas Pro 15, 16, 17, 18, 19, 20, 21 & 22, HitFilm Pro 2021.3, DaVinci Resolve Studio 19.0.3, BCC 2025, Mocha Pro 2025.0, NBFX TotalFX 7, Neat NR, DVD Architect 6.0, MAGIX Travel Maps, Sound Forge Pro 16, SpectraLayers Pro 11, iZotope RX11 Advanced and many other iZ plugins, Vegasaur 4.0

Windows 11

Dell Alienware Aurora 11:

10th Gen Intel i9 10900KF - 10 cores (20 threads) - 3.7 to 5.3 GHz

NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2080 SUPER 8GB GDDR6 - liquid cooled

64GB RAM - Dual Channel HyperX FURY DDR4 XMP at 3200MHz

C drive: 2TB Samsung 990 PCIe 4.0 NVMe M.2 PCIe SSD

D: drive: 4TB Samsung 870 SATA SSD (used for media for editing current projects)

E: drive: 2TB Samsung 870 SATA SSD

F: drive: 6TB WD 7200 rpm Black HDD 3.5"

Dell Ultrasharp 32" 4K Color Calibrated Monitor

 

LAPTOP:

Dell Inspiron 5310 EVO 13.3"

i5-11320H CPU

C Drive: 1TB Corsair Gen4 NVMe M.2 2230 SSD (upgraded from the original 500 GB SSD)

Monitor is 2560 x 1600 @ 60 Hz

NickHope wrote on 10/4/2019, 8:46 AM

Best: The existence of the scripting interface.

Worst: The failure to update Media Manager to work with Windows 10 beyond version 1511. A problem apparently fairly specific to me, but nevertheless catastrophic for me (link).

zdogg wrote on 10/4/2019, 3:42 PM

 

Worst: The failure to update Media Manager to work with Windows 10 beyond version 1511. A problem apparently fairly specific to me, but nevertheless catastrophic for me (link).

@Nick Hope: Is Media Manager even a thing? I thought that was abandoned years ago, since it caused so much grief early on; it certainly did for me, and I mean crashes, which were always attributable to said app. What has been it's progress since, I dunno, ver. 8 or so when it first appeared? What advantages to you gain by it's application? Thanks.

 

Kinvermark wrote on 10/4/2019, 6:23 PM

MM is still "a thing" for me too... but only for my sound library. I still use it in the 32bit version of ACID Pro 8.

AKAIK there is nothing out there with the same ability to search on multiple metadata criteria. I wish at least they would polish it up a little bit and make it work with 64 bit apps.