@zdogg MM development was abandoned years ago, and it's not the slickest software ever, but it's still an extremely powerful relational database for media assets. I have 22,000 video assets and 4,000 audio assets in it. The video assets are tagged by species, location, subject etc. etc. so that I can find and preview them.
But the Windows 10 Anniversary Update broke it. The fix appears to be reasonably straightforward (a patch to a 3rd party component) but the VEGAS Team have unfortunately decided against fixing it (I've tried hard). It runs in all Vegas versions, including 17, as long as I hold my Windows 10 version at 1511. But time is running out. For example the latest Affinity Photo update won't install on my Win 10 version because I need a later .NET, and at some point security fixes will cease etc..
Not sure what I'll do in the future but I fear I'll end up purchasing an alternative and manually tagging the whole lot again. The only realistic alternative I have identified, after A LOT of research, is Daminion, which starts at 798 USD for a single-user lifetime license. MAM sofware is EXPENSIVE, so it was an absolute steal for something of the power of MM to be bundled with Vegas. Such a shame it wasn't polished and continued.
But the Windows 10 Anniversary Update broke it. The fix appears to be reasonably straightforward (a patch to a 3rd party component) but the VEGAS Team have unfortunately decided against fixing it (I've tried hard). It runs in all Vegas versions, including 17, as long as I hold my Windows 10 version at 1511.
I'm not a specialist - but would not that be a "worthwhile" job for one who is capable of adapting this media manager - and possibly adding it to Happy Otter ;-))))
@NickHope Maybe bite the bullet, go for a database that’ll see you out, MS office's DB, Access, would that be suitable?
Is it possible to export MM data to a generic format, then import to your DB of choice?
But the Windows 10 Anniversary Update broke it. The fix appears to be reasonably straightforward (a patch to a 3rd party component) but the VEGAS Team have unfortunately decided against fixing it (I've tried hard). It runs in all Vegas versions, including 17, as long as I hold my Windows 10 version at 1511.
I'm not a specialist - but would not that be a "worthwhile" job for one who is capable of adapting this media manager - and possibly adding it to Happy Otter ;-))))
I've asked if MM can be open-sourced, but the VEGAS team have their reasons for not wanting to. So while it remains closed-source, I doubt it can be patched, so it would require a rewrite, which is a huge job.
@NickHope Maybe bite the bullet, go for a database that’ll see you out, MS office's DB, Access, would that be suitable?
As far as I know, that type of standard database software doesn't support preview of media files, which is obviously crucial. Not sure the database results can be opened in an NLE either, which is important.
Is it possible to export MM data to a generic format, then import to your DB of choice?
In an effort to future-proof my decision, I checked that it's possible to export MM data to another program before committing to it, and the creator of Vee-Hive had some success (see last comment in that thread). If I went for something like Daminion, I'd certainly explore the possibility.
Sorry to derail the thread. If anyone wants to discuss further, might be best on this thread. (EDIT: Yes, further discussion about MM on that thread now pls. I've linked back to this one)
For me:
Best: the amazing timeline editing got me hooked once I tried it.
Worst: timeline performance with legacy title, transitions and effects. I still have no clue what to set Dynamic Ram Preview to....
Best: Great event/pan zoom for moving around on images and videos. Nice fluid movement through the timeline during editing. Great audio features. Trimmer is very functional for long form interviews.
Worst: New software is always in beta, old code is unstable and GPU support is terrible. Tech support at least in the past was so useless I stopped using it. Worst titler I've ever used with multiple half baked title modules that they seem always seem to abandon. Limited media management (another abandoned feature). Bonus bad feature: Magix is always spamming me.
Best: The existence of the scripting interface.
Worst: The failure to update Media Manager to work with Windows 10 beyond version 1511. A problem apparently fairly specific to me, but nevertheless catastrophic for me (link).
Nick depending on your tolerance for Adobe (and all the work you have to redo) for $10 a month the photographers version of PS also has LR and it has very comprehensive data base tool. There is a section not shown here that allows a complete descriptions of a video shoot.
Nick depending on your tolerance for Adobe (and all the work you have to redo) for $10 a month the photographers version of PS also has LR and it has very comprehensive data base tool. There is a section not shown here that allows a complete descriptions of a video shoot.
You can, I believe, also get Adobe Bridge, for free....which seems to also have at least some of that same capability, check it out.
BEST: Fastest workflow among modern NLEs - especially when getting the sound right is important - you simply drop any of the many supported video formats on the timeline & start editing...
WORST: Included/supported 3rd party resources are hit & miss. One year we get Mercalli & the next year it is gone so I am forced to pay extra for the stand-alone version... One year we get true ProRes encoding & the next year it's a Magix version vs. the real deal. Some years AMD support was better implemented vs. V17 when support is lagging...
I've been using Vegas for paid work since 3.0, almost 20 years ago, so it is built-around some pretty old code... Some of the issues folks have today are based upon this fact plus the vast variety of hardware that Vegas can run on - from some pretty slow laptops to the fastest workstations. My hope is that Vegas is around for another 20 years because I can't make as much $$$ per hour using the other NLEs that take longer to move a project from start to finish...
BEST: Fastest workflow among modern NLEs - especially when getting the sound right is important - you simply drop any of the many supported video formats on the timeline & start editing...
Yes, Unless you hit some of the glitchy minefields.WORST: Included/supported 3rd party resources are hit & miss. One year we get Mercalli & the next year it is gone so I am forced to pay extra for the stand-alone version... One year we get true ProRes encoding & the next year it's a Magix version vs. the real deal. Some years AMD support was better implemented vs. V17 when support is lagging...
This part is a real scandal and shamfest....they should be truly embarrassed and ashamed about this state of affairs, and now they actively BLOCK (without having the guts to say so) third party free stuff that in any way duplicates what they try to "SELL" you (as they sometimes say "include as a 'extra'")....in this same 3rd party fake added value. Shamfest.I've been using Vegas for paid work since 3.0, almost 20 years ago, so it is built-around some pretty old code... Some of the issues folks have today are based upon this fact plus the vast variety of hardware that Vegas can run on - from some pretty slow laptops to the fastest workstations. My hope is that Vegas is around for another 20 years because I can't make as much $$$ per hour using the other NLEs that take longer to move a project from start to finish...
Yes, so they should take Vegas MORE SERIOUSLY THEMSELVES than the semi pro/pro user who actually sees Vegas as a PRO TOOL, but they don't try to work on the foundation, which is a bit shaky; so THAT becomes the contradiction, the functionality is there, but not the stability.
...One year we get true ProRes encoding & the next year it's a Magix version vs. the real deal...
@TheRhino VEGAS Pro never had true Apple-authorized ProRes encoding. The ProRes-compatible encoder was merely renamed from "MAGIX ProRes" to "MAGIX Intermediate", presumably for legal reasons.