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VMP wrote on 9/23/2015, 4:44 PM
Indeed wwjd,

I was at the same time surprised and reassured.

I know that there is a large group of Vegas users out there.
Even here in Europe I know many TV broadcasting production houses that use Vegas.

They had 20 + PC's all running Vegas on them.

I am more suprised about Avid being the least on the chart.
It may be industry standard and a traditional thing, but common and new users might find it too cumbersome to use?

VMP
winrockpost wrote on 9/23/2015, 5:40 PM
Not too scientific of a poll, but there are a lot of Vegas users out there, and will continue to be with or without updates...till technology cripples it. My unscientific poll has final cut way higher than he did. Every kid that edits at all uses it ,,well maybe not every, helps that they teach it in many schools, public and private.
Chienworks wrote on 9/23/2015, 5:46 PM
Both of the schools i work in are Windows-only, and both have Vegas Movie Studio and a few Vegas 5 installs scattered about. However, ask anyone there under the age of 20 about video and they all think that iMovie or FinalCut are the only way to do it. The seriously believe that there is no way to do video, music, or graphics under Windows. Sadly quite a few of the teachers seem to share that misconception.
Guy S. wrote on 9/23/2015, 6:16 PM
<4th in that poll. 4TH!! I don't think they'll close it down.>

I hope that proves to be true! The biggest barrier to improved market share is Sony itself. The solution isn't rocket surgery, it's really pretty simple:

1. Improve support. Many have complained about slow support. I once had an occasion to reach out to the support team – I waited TWO WEEKS to receive a canned response that was entirely unhelpful. After a month I gave up. My issue was solved via this forum, not by Sony support.

2. Product stability. Publish a CURRENT list of known good hardware configurations and maintain an updated troubleshooting page. Many here (myself included) claim problem-free editing; with better communication others may achieve the same results.

3. Titler. This has been covered in many posts; an update is long overdue. ProType lacks the user friendliness and Vegas-like interface than many desire.

4. Media management. Not an issue for me, but others have expressed a desire for more robust media management and I can certainly see their point.

5. Marketing. The shotgun approach doesn't work. Vegas isn't for everyone, pick the groups it's well suited for and focus on what makes Vegas the best solution for them. As an example, I use Regions extensively, and when I demonstrate their use to other editors that work with long clips that may have multiple In/Out points the concept instantly makes sense to them - you can see the light bulb go off when they realize how powerful this features is.

Finally, take an active interest in your product. Participate in this forum. Publish a tip of the week. Spotlight a user. Do something. DO ANYTHING. Connect with users and let folks know the product is alive and vital.
VMP wrote on 9/23/2015, 6:39 PM
Guy S,

Regarding point 5.

SCS does post info related to their products on their social media page: https://www.facebook.com/SonySoftware

VMP
JJKizak wrote on 9/23/2015, 6:55 PM
Vegas does so many things so quickly that I got overwhelmed. I learned about maybe 2% of what it could do by just doing what I needed to do. I would probably be astounded by the other 98% of stuff. Remember when the timeline was playing with other apps it would go to the end and disappear? Not in Vegas because it reset the timeline automatically. Same with the red out of sync sound. The blue snaps.
Dual monitor operation? 16 meg pictures? Fade in/out 200 photos on the timeline in one click? Select Forge/Cinescore/Acid and others with one click? Render a quickey DVD from the timeline?
JJK
Spectralis wrote on 9/24/2015, 12:22 PM
Reaper has introduced video editing features with v5. The loop editing and audio features of Vegas are what drew me to it and are the main reasons why I hope it continues.
VMP wrote on 9/24/2015, 3:46 PM


https://www.facebook.com/SonySoftware/posts/10156154827755118

The part that says it is better to apply FX before you chop up the events is a good tip for new editors.
I have always doen that, unless each event requires other FX.

VMP
PeterDuke wrote on 9/24/2015, 6:11 PM
I bought Reaper to do multi-track audio editing, but found Vegas to be easier to use.
ushere wrote on 9/24/2015, 6:35 PM
interesting post over at dv.

3rd one down from chris young - who i know and respect...

http://www.dvinfo.net/forum/what-happens-vegas/529837-future-sony-vegas.html
VMP wrote on 9/24/2015, 7:31 PM
Ushere,

Just yesterday I was looking at mister Bryant's NAB 2015 video demonstrating VP13 and wondering if he knew about this whole discussion.

Now we know (this link goes to the right post).
http://www.dvinfo.net/forum/what-happens-vegas/529837-future-sony-vegas.html#post1899087

Anyway there will be another update coming out for VP13 as I read.

Thanks for sharing.

VMP
winrockpost wrote on 9/24/2015, 8:42 PM
Hope so but Its about the end of summer,gettin pretty cool here I wonder when the email stuff happened...not to be a negative Nellie,,,just sayin
Former user wrote on 9/24/2015, 9:32 PM
I guess they are talking about Summer in Australia since summer is over in the US.
NickHope wrote on 9/24/2015, 11:08 PM
Don't get too excited guys. I am 99% certain that the update referred to in Michael Bryant's email was build 453. videoITguy reported a nearly identical email in his post of 5/16/2015 2:03:12 AM on this thread.
VMP wrote on 9/24/2015, 11:09 PM
Yes I thought the same.

Here in Europe it's almost autumn too.

I must say that my VP13 has no need for an update, but it's always good to see that Vegas is kept alive.

VMP
VMP wrote on 9/24/2015, 11:11 PM
Nick Hope,

You must mean: 5/15/2015 9:03:12 PM?

Or maybe the time stamp changes according to the local time from where you view this forum?
Like this post says 'Date: 9/25/2015 6:11:03 AM'

But indeed, that email looks the same.

VMP
NickHope wrote on 9/25/2015, 12:07 AM
Yeah VMP, it changes. I'm in Bangkok.
VMP wrote on 9/25/2015, 12:19 AM
Thanks Nick, and a good find!

VMP
HyperMedia wrote on 9/27/2015, 4:00 PM
I'm not having any of those problem you guys are talking about. Since moving to a Mac(Bootcamp) in 2002, we have produced over 76 episodes for syndication distribution to a overseas TV market.

Also, I do have Final Cut Pro X. However, like the man said" Vegas is the fastest NLE out here.
IAM4UK wrote on 9/29/2015, 10:06 AM
Interesting thread. One item discussed here was about Vegas Pro (VP) being based on old technologies and thus needing a re-write. Another point made here and elsewhere is that Catalyst Edit (CE) is written for the newer technologies, but is NOT in any way an editor comparable to VP.
Therefore, one of two things needs to happen for SonyCS to keep editors buying their products: either develop CE into a VP-level editor, or do the kinds of necessary re-writes to bring VP up to date.
IAM4UK wrote on 9/29/2015, 10:10 AM
Communication is valuable for companies trying to keep their customers. SonyCS fails in this area more than they need to. Vegas Pro customers are understandably wary of SCS and their potential abandonment of VP because of how SCS has behaved with Acid Pro. I don't use Acid Pro, but am well aware of the fact that SCS dropped it half a decade ago, yet I STILL receive from SCS emails urging me to by that abandoned software.
JJKizak wrote on 9/29/2015, 11:17 AM
Also Cinescore.
JJK
VMP wrote on 9/29/2015, 12:25 PM
+ 1 IAM4UK,

I am now forced to use Sonar X3, just because Acid Pro isn't 64 bit.
I would be the first to purchase a 64 bit Acid Pro if it came out.

VMP
ottor wrote on 9/29/2015, 7:41 PM
I guess it's the end of the road for me and SCS.

Catalyst won't accept quicktime (.mov) files on a PC. I'd need to run OSX to do that!