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VEGASDerek wrote on 7/27/2020, 12:15 PM

I do not tend to post about future support or features for upcoming releases, but I will mention that ProRes RAW support is not going to be available with the initial release of VEGAS Pro 18. In order for us to support ProRes RAW, we need to be officially licensed from Apple. Our application for this has been submitted and we are going through the approval process, but this takes quite a bit of time. Once we do have the official license from Apple, we plan to work on this format support and plan to make it available in an update as soon as it is ready.

mark2929 wrote on 7/27/2020, 12:44 PM

Thanks Derek! Awesome news. I'll buy Vegas 17/18 as well as a ZCAM an Atomos Monitor that records prores RAW now.

fr0sty wrote on 7/27/2020, 1:41 PM

Thank you for being open with the community about that.

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cliff_622 wrote on 7/27/2020, 1:56 PM

WOW!,....thanks for that information. Let's hope Apple will allow it. Great customer communication on your part. At least we are not "wondering" aimlessly about it. Keep up the great job. Keeping customers informed helps us to not go off the "deep end" on speculation. Crossing our fingers....THANKS!

VEGASDerek wrote on 7/28/2020, 8:54 AM

When it comes to official ProRes and ProRes RAW support, we are pretty much at the mercy of Apple. We have had regular meetings with the Apple ProRes Program committee about our application. Nothing is guaranteed, but we are hopeful.

wjauch wrote on 7/28/2020, 1:08 PM

I do not tend to post about future support or features for upcoming releases, but I will mention that ProRes RAW support is not going to be available with the initial release of VEGAS Pro 18. In order for us to support ProRes RAW, we need to be officially licensed from Apple. Our application for this has been submitted and we are going through the approval process, but this takes quite a bit of time. Once we do have the official license from Apple, we plan to work on this format support and plan to make it available in an update as soon as it is ready.

Derek, I am hoping that Red R3d support is also updated, Vegas is several versions behind and Red is just now coming out with their new Komodo camera (cheaper and will probably sell very well). FYI I posted at reduser.net a couple of years ago, and Jared Land (Red's president) posted something along the lines of that he has a soft spot for Vegas, it was one of the first NLE's he used and if Vegas was having problems he'd like to help facilitate progress. I suspect Red will be more responsive to Magix than Apple will.

mark2929 wrote on 7/28/2020, 1:23 PM

Prores RAW licence shouldn't be an issue as Edius, Adobe premier and After effects are already using it on windows.

VEGASDerek wrote on 7/28/2020, 3:17 PM

Those companies have a little more clout than our small team does. None-the-less, we hope for approval. The process for us has been ongoing for over 7 months.

In regards to other codec support, we have a huge backlog of format support tasks (including R3D) that we wish to get to. Unfortunately we need to be very selective on the work we choose to do due to the small size of our team. Our focus has been on improving our GPU support, which is a very resource intensive goal that requires constant changes, adjustments and improvements. Yet this work necessary if we are to support these newer formats in the future.

mark2929 wrote on 7/28/2020, 3:44 PM

I have been using a Black magic production camera that only shoots uncompressed raw. I'd make proxy files in resolve then edit in Vegas then create an edl file for resolve and colour correct there then render to an Uncompressed avi, Back to Vegas cut and reframe using the vegas original proxy edit and finish sound in Vegas using protools.

To be able to shoot Prores RAW and edit in vegas would be stupendous.

fr0sty wrote on 7/29/2020, 1:49 AM

Now y'all know why I've been saying this whole time that the complainers don't know what they are talking about when they say the dev team is slacking and not paying attention to the issues that users want them to focus on. They are, all of them... but there's only so much they can do at once, and sometimes they're at the mercy of third parties.

Don't mean to keep repeating myself, but this type of open communication with the user base is exactly what VEGAS needs... they will cheer for you if you let them know the fight you are up against, but if you leave them guessing, the human brain always has a ways of filling in the blanks with the worst possible outcome... and that just leads to headaches for us insiders and moderators who have to do our best to calm people down without revealing more knowledge than we are at liberty to.

More of this!!!

adis-a3097 wrote on 7/29/2020, 3:15 AM

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cliff_622 wrote on 7/31/2020, 12:57 AM

Now y'all know why I've been saying this whole time that the complainers don't know what they are talking about when they say the dev team is slacking and not paying attention to the issues that users want them to focus on. They are, all of them... but there's only so much they can do at once, and sometimes they're at the mercy of third parties.

Don't mean to keep repeating myself, but this type of open communication with the user base is exactly what VEGAS needs... they will cheer for you if you let them know the fight you are up against, but if you leave them guessing, the human brain always has a ways of filling in the blanks with the worst possible outcome... and that just leads to headaches for us insiders and moderators who have to do our best to calm people down without revealing more knowledge than we are at liberty to.

More of this!!!

You took the words right outa muh mouff!! Egg-zactly!!!!

fr0sty wrote on 8/28/2020, 7:51 PM

Panasonic S1 is also getting a prores raw over HDMI to atomos recorder update soon, so I'll be joining the chorus of people cheering when this apple approval does go through.

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Schiffer-Foto wrote on 1/6/2021, 11:59 AM

Any news yet? I just bought myself a shiny new Nikon Z6 and the Prores RAW support would come in handy now! ;)

RogerS wrote on 1/6/2021, 6:18 PM

Magix got approval and raw support is in the works for Vegas now but you should figure out a plan b if you need that ability today.

RogerS wrote on 1/6/2021, 10:03 PM

Source

https://www.vegascreativesoftware.info/us/forum/vegas-pro-18-update-2-build-373-general-discussion--124911/?page=5#ca781741

JN- wrote on 2/14/2021, 1:57 PM

Interesting articles here ... https://www.dpreview.com/articles/0330903756/why-raw-video-might-not-be-the-game-changer-you-expect

and here ... http://www.xdcam-user.com/2020/11/raw-isnt-magic-with-the-right-tools-log-does-it-too/

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Howard-Vigorita wrote on 6/12/2021, 3:41 PM

I just put a bug in someone's ear about this over on the z-cam e2 forum. You need to join the group to see the posts but here's a link anyway. Most of them seem to be Resolve users doing ProResRAW via Ninja 5 though many of them use BM's for their b-cams.

Howard-Vigorita wrote on 11/19/2021, 3:27 PM

Of interest to z-cam camera users, just stumbled into an open source zraw parser over on github that seems to do zraw to dng and hevc. It appears developed mostly on Ubuntu but I could not help noticing the vs2017 Windows project folder.

https://github.com/storyboardcreativity/ZRAW-Parser

Btw, found out about this over on the bmd forum.