VEGAS 20 is Here!

fr0sty wrote on 8/10/2022, 12:39 AM

The time has come, VEGAS 20 is finally out!

Check out that File Drop online collaboration, share projects with fellow editors, colorists, fx artists, etc... with the ability for each to leave you notes on the timeline after making their changes... and HSL Curves and new white balance controls in the color grading panel! VST is finally fixed and updated in VEGAS (New VST bridge plus VST 3 support)! There's also a handy automatic project archival system. Plus:

New GL transitions

Transition Progress with animation 

Scene Detection creates regions 

And there's lots more to come! New features will continue to roll out with each update. For reference, VEGAS 19 saw 5 updates, each that added new features, so this is far from the final feature list... AND YES, performance improvements are among the things being currently worked on to add to that list (some are already here, they started with audio by overhauling the VST system), and there have been a number of stability improvements already implemented, with more to come.

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RealityStudio wrote on 8/10/2022, 1:00 AM

Ok I'll bite, where can I download this? I bought Vegas 20 but it doesn't appear in my Magix account when I log into the admin, and checking for updates on Vegas 19 also shows nothing :(

fr0sty wrote on 8/10/2022, 1:17 AM

Give it a bit... I checked the site and it changed from "pre-order" to just "buy VEGAS 20 Edit", so I know they are releasing, but they might not get the codes and links out until morning.

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H-Musikk wrote on 8/10/2022, 1:21 AM

Is it just available as subscription now?

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fr0sty wrote on 8/10/2022, 1:32 AM

Perpetual licenses are still available (click the little drop down box where the subscription type is listed), but they do not include the online subscription based features like the royalty free stock audio and video clip library, the online collaboration and cloud storage, text to speech speech to text, cellphone to timeline, or any of the other online VEGAS Hub features... though I'm told they are looking into ways to allow perpetual users to buy access to that stuff as well.

Systems:

Desktop

AMD Ryzen 7 1800x 8 core 16 thread at stock speed

64GB 3000mhz DDR4

Geforce RTX 3090

Windows 10

Laptop:

ASUS Zenbook Pro Duo 32GB (9980HK CPU, RTX 2060 GPU, dual 4K touch screens, main one OLED HDR)

RogerS wrote on 8/10/2022, 1:33 AM

Is it just available as subscription now?

No, only 365 is subscription. Select purchase or upgrade for the perpetual license.

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Dell XPS 15 laptop (2017) 32GB ram, NVIDIA 1050 (4GB) with latest studio driver, Intel i7-7700HQ with Intel 630 iGPU (latest available driver), dual internal SSD (256GB; 1TB), Windows 10 64 bit

VEGAS Pro 19.651
VEGAS Pro 20.411
VEGAS Pro 21.208

Try the
VEGAS 4K "sample project" benchmark: https://forms.gle/ypyrrbUghEiaf2aC7
VEGAS Pro 20 "Ad" benchmark: https://forms.gle/eErJTR87K2bbJc4Q7

relaxvideo wrote on 8/10/2022, 2:04 AM

So4 decoder is multithreaded now?
What about buffering a few sec so we wont see any frame drop at every cut?
I used to edit without any drop in early 2000's (of course with DV material), and cannot believe that i cannot edit like that in 2022. Even h264 fhd drops a few frames at every hard cut. Hurt my (and my client's) eyes.

+ I will upgrade only when v20 is much more stable than v19 (i just clicked on enable/disable levels fx while playback was stopped and v19 froze) (Yes, i use latest studio driver with my 1660Ti)

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fr0sty wrote on 8/10/2022, 2:25 AM

As I already said, performance improvements are an ongoing process. They started with audio, video will get its day in the sun from there. This isn't something that will be completed all at once. Many stability improvements have already been made (and 20 is built off of where 19 left off) and more are on the way.

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Systems:

Desktop

AMD Ryzen 7 1800x 8 core 16 thread at stock speed

64GB 3000mhz DDR4

Geforce RTX 3090

Windows 10

Laptop:

ASUS Zenbook Pro Duo 32GB (9980HK CPU, RTX 2060 GPU, dual 4K touch screens, main one OLED HDR)

fr0sty wrote on 8/10/2022, 2:37 AM

One cool thing about File Drop, collaborators do not have to be on Windows, or even on a computer... any computer, laptop, tablet, or phone can access it and upload media to it regardless of OS. So, if you hire a team of camera operators to cover an event, and they don't get all their media to you before it is over, they can easily send it directly to your timeline regardless of what device they use.

Systems:

Desktop

AMD Ryzen 7 1800x 8 core 16 thread at stock speed

64GB 3000mhz DDR4

Geforce RTX 3090

Windows 10

Laptop:

ASUS Zenbook Pro Duo 32GB (9980HK CPU, RTX 2060 GPU, dual 4K touch screens, main one OLED HDR)

Elynde wrote on 8/10/2022, 2:43 AM

Suddenly glad I haven't started my next big project yet, so I can give 20 a vigorous field test. :) ... As soon as they send my preorder code that is....

Crowyote wrote on 8/10/2022, 3:14 AM

Will VP20 be fully compatible with Windows 11 and have adjustable "Fx" menu margins? This is a problem I can't seem to get around with VP17. All the Fx are weirdly cropped I can't see all the parameters even after adjusting the display/dpi settings in Windows.

Dexcon wrote on 8/10/2022, 3:26 AM

Vegas Pro's specification webpage - https://www.vegascreativesoftware.com/us/specifications/#productMenu - shows that Vegas Pro 20 is compatible with both Windows 10 & 11 (as was the last build of Vegas Pro 19).

There's a free trial version of Vegas Pro 20 so you will be able to check out the FX menu margins on your computer.

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Cameras: Sony FDR-AX100E; GoPro Hero 11 Black Creator Edition

Installed: Vegas Pro 16, 17, 18, 19, 20 & 21, HitFilm Pro 2021.3, DaVinci Resolve Studio 18.5, BCC 2023.5, Mocha Pro 2023, Ignite Pro, NBFX TotalFX 7, Neat NR, DVD Architect 6.0, MAGIX Travel Maps, Sound Forge Pro 16, SpectraLayers Pro 11, iZotope RX10 Advanced and many other iZ plugins, Vegasaur 4.0

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Dell Ultrasharp 32" 4K Color Calibrated Monitor

RogerS wrote on 8/10/2022, 6:20 AM

For the Fx can you disable the automatic window resizing in VEGAS preferences? I found it less than helpful.

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Dell XPS 15 laptop (2017) 32GB ram, NVIDIA 1050 (4GB) with latest studio driver, Intel i7-7700HQ with Intel 630 iGPU (latest available driver), dual internal SSD (256GB; 1TB), Windows 10 64 bit

VEGAS Pro 19.651
VEGAS Pro 20.411
VEGAS Pro 21.208

Try the
VEGAS 4K "sample project" benchmark: https://forms.gle/ypyrrbUghEiaf2aC7
VEGAS Pro 20 "Ad" benchmark: https://forms.gle/eErJTR87K2bbJc4Q7

Gid wrote on 8/10/2022, 7:31 AM

Has V20 got a zoom preview screen & better more see-able on screen controls?

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fr0sty wrote on 8/10/2022, 7:35 AM

That is a big feature request behind the scenes, unfortunately while they are aware we want it and are working on it, it isn't ready yet.

Systems:

Desktop

AMD Ryzen 7 1800x 8 core 16 thread at stock speed

64GB 3000mhz DDR4

Geforce RTX 3090

Windows 10

Laptop:

ASUS Zenbook Pro Duo 32GB (9980HK CPU, RTX 2060 GPU, dual 4K touch screens, main one OLED HDR)

RogerS wrote on 8/10/2022, 7:35 AM

We've been told a Zoom preview isn't coming any time soon. It looks the same as 19.

Custom PC (2022) Intel i5-13600K with UHD 770 iGPU with latest driver, MSI z690 Tomahawk motherboard, 64GB Corsair DDR5 5200 ram, NVIDIA 2080 Super (8GB) with latest studio driver, 2TB Hynix P41 SSD, Windows 11 Pro 64 bit

Dell XPS 15 laptop (2017) 32GB ram, NVIDIA 1050 (4GB) with latest studio driver, Intel i7-7700HQ with Intel 630 iGPU (latest available driver), dual internal SSD (256GB; 1TB), Windows 10 64 bit

VEGAS Pro 19.651
VEGAS Pro 20.411
VEGAS Pro 21.208

Try the
VEGAS 4K "sample project" benchmark: https://forms.gle/ypyrrbUghEiaf2aC7
VEGAS Pro 20 "Ad" benchmark: https://forms.gle/eErJTR87K2bbJc4Q7

pierre-k wrote on 8/10/2022, 7:45 AM

I try it for a while and see the first bug.

Double click on Preview Windows works differently than in VP19.

 

Gid wrote on 8/10/2022, 7:46 AM

That is a big feature request behind the scenes, unfortunately while they are aware we want it and are working on it, it isn't ready yet.


@fr0sty Thanks I hope they do, when the controls are in the corners it's hard to get hold of them & there's no option really of working off-screen without going into the controls, dragging them off-screen, sort of working blind,

This is is my main prob

there's 2 control points in this pic ...? I can see 1 🧐

Even screen capture zoomed in they're difficult to see.

I have to lower the opacity to find the other,

 

Vegas Pro 21 
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Magix VPX14
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Boris Optics,
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At the moment my filming is done with a Samsung Galaxy S23 Ultra 

Dexcon wrote on 8/10/2022, 7:54 AM

I try it for a while and see the first bug. Double click on Preview Windows works differently than in VP19.

It would be worthwhile if you could explain (in words) the difference between VP 20 and VP19 in the bug that you have identified. The uploaded video is inconclusive about what you are seeing as the difference.

Cameras: Sony FDR-AX100E; GoPro Hero 11 Black Creator Edition

Installed: Vegas Pro 16, 17, 18, 19, 20 & 21, HitFilm Pro 2021.3, DaVinci Resolve Studio 18.5, BCC 2023.5, Mocha Pro 2023, Ignite Pro, NBFX TotalFX 7, Neat NR, DVD Architect 6.0, MAGIX Travel Maps, Sound Forge Pro 16, SpectraLayers Pro 11, iZotope RX10 Advanced and many other iZ plugins, Vegasaur 4.0

Windows 11

Dell Alienware Aurora 11

10th Gen Intel i9 10900KF - 10 cores (20 threads) - 3.7 to 5.3 GHz

NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2080 SUPER 8GB GDDR6 - liquid cooled

64GB RAM - Dual Channel HyperX FURY DDR4 XMP at 3200MHz

C drive: 12TB Samsung 990 PCIe 4.0 NVMe M.2 PCIe SSD

D: drive: 4TB Samsung 870 SATA SSD (used for media for editing current projects)

E: drive: 2TB Samsung 870 SATA SSD

F: drive: 6TB WD 7200 rpm Black HDD 3.5"

Dell Ultrasharp 32" 4K Color Calibrated Monitor

pierre-k wrote on 8/10/2022, 8:04 AM

I try it for a while and see the first bug. Double click on Preview Windows works differently than in VP19.

It would be worthwhile if you could explain (in words) the difference between VP 20 and VP19 in the bug that you have identified. The uploaded video is inconclusive about what you are seeing as the difference.

If I double-click on the Preview window in VP19, it enlarges so that I can grab it by the top bar and move it with it. If I do the same thing in VP20, it enlarges so that the top bar is hidden and I have to turn off VP20 hard because the Preview window covers everything.

This is happening to me on a 1920x1080 monitor

Ustik wrote on 8/10/2022, 8:21 AM

One cool thing about File Drop, collaborators do not have to be on Windows, or even on a computer... any computer, laptop, tablet, or phone can access it and upload media to it regardless of OS. So, if you hire a team of camera operators to cover an event, and they don't get all their media to you before it is over, they can easily send it directly to your timeline regardless of what device they use.

All this collaborations and file drops are the most useless features for professional editors. As PRO suggests.

I can just imagine an editor waiting in front of his monitor for someone to upload a file to the cloud from an iphone so he can start editing new TikTok video.
 

What a nonsense.

 

Congratulations Vegas team, you’re on the right track with all these new “updates”😂😂😂

Dexcon wrote on 8/10/2022, 8:25 AM

Using the Preview Window tab under the Preview Window to drag it out and expand it ...

... I am getting the same result in both VP19 and VP20 - the header is there in both cases. For me, double L clicking on the Preview Screen does nothing.

Cameras: Sony FDR-AX100E; GoPro Hero 11 Black Creator Edition

Installed: Vegas Pro 16, 17, 18, 19, 20 & 21, HitFilm Pro 2021.3, DaVinci Resolve Studio 18.5, BCC 2023.5, Mocha Pro 2023, Ignite Pro, NBFX TotalFX 7, Neat NR, DVD Architect 6.0, MAGIX Travel Maps, Sound Forge Pro 16, SpectraLayers Pro 11, iZotope RX10 Advanced and many other iZ plugins, Vegasaur 4.0

Windows 11

Dell Alienware Aurora 11

10th Gen Intel i9 10900KF - 10 cores (20 threads) - 3.7 to 5.3 GHz

NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2080 SUPER 8GB GDDR6 - liquid cooled

64GB RAM - Dual Channel HyperX FURY DDR4 XMP at 3200MHz

C drive: 12TB Samsung 990 PCIe 4.0 NVMe M.2 PCIe SSD

D: drive: 4TB Samsung 870 SATA SSD (used for media for editing current projects)

E: drive: 2TB Samsung 870 SATA SSD

F: drive: 6TB WD 7200 rpm Black HDD 3.5"

Dell Ultrasharp 32" 4K Color Calibrated Monitor

pierre-k wrote on 8/10/2022, 8:30 AM

Using the Preview Window tab under the Preview Window to drag it out and expand it ...

... I am getting the same result in both VP19 and VP20 - the header is there in both cases. For me, double L clicking on the Preview Screen does nothing.

My problem arises if you have the Preview window free. You are showing a screen of something else.

Mindmatter wrote on 8/10/2022, 8:31 AM

I really would have preferred a modernized multicam workflow without the multicam track and keeping direct access to allt the cam tracks. I really wonder if everybody is happy wih the current implementation… maybe noone does multicam anymore?

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Dexcon wrote on 8/10/2022, 8:33 AM

All this collaborations and file drops are the most useless features for professional editors

If you don't need it, there's no need to use it. Others might appreciate those features. BTW, those features are only available in the 365 versions, not the perpetual licence versions. DaVinci Resolve is heavily based on collaboration editing, so presumably that NLE is also useless for professional editors.

I can just imagine an editor waiting in front of his monitor for someone to upload a file to the cloud from an iphone so he can start editing new TikTok video.

Broadly, that's how mainstream TV/cable newsrooms work these days. It's not the 70s/80s/90's anymore.

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Cameras: Sony FDR-AX100E; GoPro Hero 11 Black Creator Edition

Installed: Vegas Pro 16, 17, 18, 19, 20 & 21, HitFilm Pro 2021.3, DaVinci Resolve Studio 18.5, BCC 2023.5, Mocha Pro 2023, Ignite Pro, NBFX TotalFX 7, Neat NR, DVD Architect 6.0, MAGIX Travel Maps, Sound Forge Pro 16, SpectraLayers Pro 11, iZotope RX10 Advanced and many other iZ plugins, Vegasaur 4.0

Windows 11

Dell Alienware Aurora 11

10th Gen Intel i9 10900KF - 10 cores (20 threads) - 3.7 to 5.3 GHz

NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2080 SUPER 8GB GDDR6 - liquid cooled

64GB RAM - Dual Channel HyperX FURY DDR4 XMP at 3200MHz

C drive: 12TB Samsung 990 PCIe 4.0 NVMe M.2 PCIe SSD

D: drive: 4TB Samsung 870 SATA SSD (used for media for editing current projects)

E: drive: 2TB Samsung 870 SATA SSD

F: drive: 6TB WD 7200 rpm Black HDD 3.5"

Dell Ultrasharp 32" 4K Color Calibrated Monitor