VEGAS Pro 16 Update 2 (build 307) - General Discussion

NickHope wrote on 10/27/2018, 1:30 AM

Although not yet officially announced*, VEGAS Pro 16 Update 2 (build 307) is available.

If you already have an earlier build of VEGAS Pro 16 installed, there is no need to uninstall it. Build 307 will overwrite your installation and retain your settings. Your computer will need to be online for activation after the update.

Download link. Another download link. At this moment, the download managers (...dlm.exe) are still fetching build 261.

*Update Oct 29th: now officially announced.

New Features

You can now set any preset of the Titles and Text media generator as the default for the Insert Subtitles from Files and Insert Subtitles from Regions functions
You can now create subtitles by importing SRT files with the Insert Subtitles from files feature
Video scopes can now be set to display the NITS scale for HDR work, including for 8-bit projects
VEGAS now warns you if no track has been armed for recording when you start recording and enables you to specify which existing track or tracks you want to record to, or to create a new track and record to that
Replacing media in the Main Storyboard timeline now updates the project timeline
The user now has the ability to "pin" another video event to a motion tracked event
Custom frame rates can now be set when encoding using AMD and VCE render templates in the MAGIX AVC/HEVC formats
The Main Timeline storyboard no longer automatically reacts to changes on the timeline. A Refresh Storyboard button has been added to the Project Media window when viewing a storyboard which enables you to manually match the storyboard to the timeline
A Red background for the Main Timeline storyboard alerts the user when the storyboard is out of sync with the project timeline and must be manually updated
A dialog box warns the user that the Main Timeline storyboard cannot be altered until it is updated to be in sync with the main timeline
A Red warning bar at the edge of storyboard thumbnails indicates when the timeline event is longer than the media it holds
You can now set in/out points in the storyboard for audio-only files
You can now set in/out points in the storyboard for still-image files
The Storyboard now properly recognizes L and J cuts and orders itself appropriately
Added support for time stretched/compressed events hover scrub in and out point trimming, and storyboard refresh
A new OFX plug-in enables you to add video stabilization to 360° video

Bugfixes

The Neat Video (and other temporal effects) now works properly when placed before Pan/Crop in an event FX chain
MTS files now render properly at 25p or lower framerates
The Internet HD 720p 29.97 fps (AMD VCE) template now yields the proper framerate
Reordering items in the storyboard no longer causes media in and out points to be reset
Audio recorded using Quicktime on a Macbook Air no longer get corrupted by so4compoundplug
The stabilization tool's Zoom parameter now properly persists through project save, close, and reload
The Render As dialog box no longer gets hidden off screen in a dual monitor set up which would cause the appearance of VEGAS freezing
Media in and out points are now properly honored when adding an unassociated storyboard bin to the timeline
The Insert Subtitles from File operation now properly recognizes commas in the subtitle text
The Add at Project Frame Rate operation now works properly when the media frame rate does not match the project frame rate
The audio meter context menu properly appears as expected again
The Scene Rotation plug-in has been optimized and should no longer cause occasional crashes at start up
The AutoSave function no longer triggers the creation of an unwanted duplicate storyboard which could occur in some cases
Crash has been resolved when using video stabilization and motion tracking with an AMD Phenom II card
Double-clicking Color Correction custom tab parameters now properly sets the parameters to their defaults
Overwriting files when rendering with AMD VCE templates now properly reports file size
Deleting storyboard placeholders no longer cause crashes as they did in certain instances
Replacing a generated placeholder with a clip no long crashes the application as was the case in certain scenarios
Moving generated media in the storyboard now follows expected behavior
External preview now works properly through Decklink cards in 32-bit projects
Fixed potential inconsistencies caused by replacing a generated placeholder with a video clip
Moving a generated media thumbnail to the end of the storyboard no longer causes an unwanted duplicate thumbnail
Sync Cursor to Media Timeline again works properly when user clicks on a keyframe in the FX automation section
Unwanted extra generated media thumbnails are no longer created in the storyboard when changing the order of thumbnails
Importing bins from one project into another no longer causes a crash
Importing media from one project into another now works properly
The BattleCompVintage VST and other plug-ins now work properly
32-bit projects created in older versions of VEGAS now open properly as 32-bit in VEGAS Pro 16
Dragging a media generator to the Main Timeline Storyboard no longer causes a crash
The render destination folder is now used for temporary file creation during the render process to avoid inadvertently filling up the user's C: drive
Certain specific MOV files no longer cause a crash when stabilization is applied
Switching through presets no longer disables stabilization in any case
Event Pan/Crop animation now works properly on events that hold still images
Color samplers in the Parameters and Custom tabs of the Color Corrector OFX plug-in are now correct and consistent
Stabilization of video clips that contain zooms now works properly
The Auto Zoom option now works more exactly to eliminate black borders
Right Alt+z and Shift+Right Alt+z now properly give users of the Polish localized version ż and Ż
Color Curve channel behavior has been improved so that changing the channel on one changes only that one and no others, and new curves are always added with the default settings instead of the settings from the previous curve worked with
All files now retain Markers & Regions in Trimmer
Timeline performance problems caused by automatically updating the Main Timeline storyboard during a timeline edit have been resolved

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Comments

Soundivad wrote on 10/30/2018, 10:37 AM

The Video Stabilisation autozoom is still to agressive.

Thanks for your feedback and the hint for the checkbox.

I do not understand the word too "agressive". The "Auto Zoom" checkbox is adjusting the minimum borders for you. If you change the zoom slider manually, than you will see black borders.

It's like any other video stabilizer (Mercalli, Boris, etc.)... The zoom is the result of the length of your smoothing and the camera movement. If you increase the smoothing length, the zoom in effect is also increased.

With too agressive i mean, the autozoom is zooming in too much, in the clips i tested it with, it zoomed in all the way, but moving the slider manually to ca. half was enough to avoid black borders.

set wrote on 10/30/2018, 10:48 AM

I just tried it again and I agree with Soundivad, the autozoom zooming is too much. Need to manually adjust it zoom out.

>> For those who work in rush... this can be disadvantage because you will need to zoom out manually and check the whole sequence to make sure no black bar appear.

Kinvermark wrote on 10/30/2018, 12:55 PM

My trial ran out and Magix won't give me another.... :(

So, can anyone comment on whether or not the storyboards (and thumbnails) are working correctly?

(ie maintaining correct order, in/out points, no crashes on thumbnail resize, etc.)

zdogg wrote on 10/30/2018, 1:28 PM

Nope, 307 still crashes upon startup for me. I've uninstalled all plugins installed from previous Vegas versions, and I have simply have not been able to use Vegas 16 since purchasing it, it has never started up yet. Despite reporting the startup bug several times officially, there has been no resolution to this issue. I am nearing the point where I need to demand a refund, as I simply cannot use the product.

Richard, do you have a MIDI device or audio device that Vegas wants to access, but cannot. Hardware controller....those types of occurrences will cause a crash sometimes. The other "usual suspect" is a not cooperating AVI or MOV file (the underlying file format, as these are wrappers) there is a fix for AVI plug, are you loading a totally black project file?

Norbert wrote on 10/30/2018, 2:09 PM

X AVC L playback is worse than ever. Even Vegas Pro 14 plays back everything in realtime, Vegas 16 gives me 3fps... files created by Sony PXW X70 and PXW Z150

tom-sylvester wrote on 10/30/2018, 4:25 PM

Thank you for your great work in continually improving a great product. I'm a convert from Adobe Premiere and am here to stay.

Julius_ wrote on 10/30/2018, 8:59 PM

"You can now create subtitles by importing SRT files with the Insert Subtitles from files feature"

I love you Magix !!! THANK YOU ! 👍👍👍

Can you tell me how this works exactly? Thanks.

ram17 wrote on 10/30/2018, 9:30 PM

The new stabilization fx still a hit or miss, sticking with the old one for now. And a few hours of staying in the project media & setting in-out points plus a few instances of resizing thumbnails gets Vegas freeze & wait 2-3 minutes to respond again or restart app. It's 2 or 3 times in a while but that's tolerable, it just happened when you are halfway with hundreds of (Canon DSLR 1080p) clips involved, hope they make it more stable though. Anyways good job for making it solid (that's for me).

PS:

Just a request to Magix, can you please kindly include in the keyboard map these few features in Vegas so that we can assign shortcuts to it. Thanks.

Add missing stream, Close gaps, Selectively paste event attributes.

raWer-Studio wrote on 10/31/2018, 3:38 AM

Footage from Fuji XT-3 still playback laging. In Davinci Studio 2160x50p 10bit x.265 playback is smooth :-( Please Magix work on it.

bbgunn wrote on 10/31/2018, 4:53 AM

With 307 I can no longer import or drag and drop any media of any type, including jpegs. The fix for this previously was to make sure that C:\Program Files\VEGAS\VEGAS Pro 16.0\Vegas160.exe wasn't running as an admin, but now that no longer works. I did reboot the computer, no luck. Alienware Aurora R7 Windows 10 version 1803, NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1070, 16 gig RAM. It was working with the previous version 251.

bbgunn wrote on 10/31/2018, 8:16 AM

With 307 I can no longer import or drag and drop any media of any type, including jpegs. The fix for this previously was to make sure that C:\Program Files\VEGAS\VEGAS Pro 16.0\Vegas160.exe wasn't running as an admin, but now that no longer works. I did reboot the computer, no luck. Alienware Aurora R7 Windows 10 version 1803, NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1070, 16 gig RAM. It was working with the previous version 251.

Tried uninstalling 307 using the control panel, and reinstall 261. Now Vegas won't start. Then reinstalled 307 and it starts but I have the same problem where I can't import any video or graphics. Both times I installed 307 I initially received a .NET error the first time. Both times I used the task manager to kill it and then it started the second time. At this time I'm dead in the water.

james-ollick wrote on 10/31/2018, 10:55 AM

@bbgunn Try using VP16's Explorer and right click on the file you want and select add to Project Media. That works for me. I do miss dragging and dropping to the timeline.

Kinvermark wrote on 10/31/2018, 12:35 PM

@bbgunn

Sounds like a lingering install (registry?) problem. You may want to do a clean install and/or contact Magix support.

https://www.vegascreativesoftware.info/us/forum/vegas-pro-faqs-and-troubleshooting-guides--104787/

jimbo20 wrote on 10/31/2018, 4:52 PM

After install it is still build 261, not 307. How can I get 307?

alan-f wrote on 10/31/2018, 6:21 PM

Just want to confirm that this will only overwrite my Vegas Pro 16 installations, and that it will leave my Vegas Pro 12 installations (which I still use for older projects with specific plugins) alone. My first installation of 15 broke the Boris effects I had installed in 12 - don't want that to happen again. TIA.

bitman wrote on 11/1/2018, 9:43 AM

My trial ran out and Magix won't give me another.... :(

So, can anyone comment on whether or not the storyboards (and thumbnails) are working correctly?

(ie maintaining correct order, in/out points, no crashes on thumbnail resize, etc.)

@Kinvermark

I do not know if this will work if your trial has run out, try this for a quick temporary check if the patch solves your issue, download the patch, next disconnect yourself from the internet, change your PC date manually to e.g. a week less than your expire trial date, install the patch and try stuff out. If you are done checking things out, put your date back to normal (or let it update automatically) once on line back again. If you are satisfied, buy the upgrade.

NickHope wrote on 11/1/2018, 10:52 AM

After install it is still build 261, not 307. How can I get 307?

@jimbo20 Where did you get the file that you installed from?

Just want to confirm that this will only overwrite my Vegas Pro 16 installations, and that it will leave my Vegas Pro 12 installations (which I still use for older projects with specific plugins) alone. My first installation of 15 broke the Boris effects I had installed in 12 - don't want that to happen again. TIA.

@alan-f (sorry, you're untaggable) In theory yes. I personally have never had a Vegas installation interfere with a previous one or its plugins, and I have 10, 12, 13, 14, 15, & 16 on this computer.

jimbo20 wrote on 11/1/2018, 11:08 AM

@nick I used the download link in your original post. It's the initial released build.

NickHope wrote on 11/1/2018, 12:13 PM

@nick I used the download link in your original post. It's the initial released build.

@jimbo20 That's strange. It shouldn't be. I checked the links again and they both have "307" in the title, and nobody else reported this problem. You could try using an official "download manager" installer from here. Or try uninstalling your existing version first.

Marcin wrote on 11/1/2018, 1:40 PM

I'm happy with the update 2, thank you for fixing the mistake "Right Alt+z and Shift+Right Alt+z now properly give users of the Polish localized version ż and Ż".

jimbo20 wrote on 11/1/2018, 2:32 PM

@nick I used the download link in your original post. It's the initial released build.

@jimbo20 That's strange. It shouldn't be. I checked the links again and they both have "307" in the title, and nobody else reported this problem. You could try using an official "download manager" installer from here. Or try uninstalling your existing version first.

Yes, the download I got from that link has "307" in the executable, but it seems to install "261". The download manager did in fact install the "307" version, asked me to register the product, and the splash screen and About box does indeed now show "317". Thanks.

MikeyDH wrote on 11/1/2018, 7:39 PM

Well, I bit the bullet, downloaded and installed Vegas Pro 16 Edit. So far 3 attempts to edit some simple AVCHD footage with a split and a clock wipe and 3 crashes. The disappointment is real.....Something like this has never happened with any version of Vegas until today

Marcin wrote on 11/2/2018, 12:50 AM

Try to disable Enable QSV Encoding and Decoding

JesusSheep-1965 wrote on 11/2/2018, 9:40 AM

Great How About Some Plugins For HDR :)

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