please give me one single link where I can Upgrade from vegas pro 17 to vegas pro 18 for 149.I was looking everyday for at least 2 months. Regarding the video stabilization, the vegas 10 pro stabilization was way way better.I still have my old vegas pro10 installed and when I need a good stabilization I jump in Vegas 10.

Vegas 18pro as a trial version it is still full of crashes for my Canon R5 h265 HVEC codec.I hope you guys can fix that by the time you will have the update available for 149 as you mentioned

https://www.vegascreativesoftware.com/us/vegas-pro/?_oB=vegas-pro-edit

You can upgrade to Vegas Pro Edit 18 at the price of $159. But it doesn't contain Boris FX Sapphire 2020 Render Unit ($295 value).

You can upgrade to Vegas Pro Edit 18 at the price of $159. But it doesn't contain Boris FX Sapphire 2020 Render Unit ($295 value).

That was not asked either - the question was only in the direction of Vegas Pro - so Vegas Pro is not really much more expensive than required.

Vegas Pro 18 price is super high and the upgrade from 17PRO to 18PRO is a crazy $200.Maybe is the time to move to Davinci

Final Cut pro full price is 299 and un update for vegas pro is 200? that is crazy!

Maybe fix the crashes and bugs first than fix the price before is to late to catch up with Davinci Resolve, Filmora and others who develop so fast

@Ciprian-Caizar

Regarding the price discussion, please use the search function, this has been discussed so often that it is very tiring.

Regarding crashes and other problems, try the special FAQ's and troubleshooting guides (with the test version)
https://www.vegascreativesoftware.info/de/forum/vegas-pro-faqs-and-troubleshooting-guides--104787/
and if so you can't cope with it, open your own thread. Every case is too special - as every PC and the installed components are.

@Ciprian-Caizar - Did you read @lan-mLMC links? Did you?

Timing is your friend. Wait till vp19 is about to be launched. If if follows the vp18 pattern you will be offered vp18 with free upgrade to vp19. At around eu50 per licence it is good value.

Patience, and you to can become a paying beta tester.

The great thing about buying something is if you don't like you can always buy something else and make life happier.

The great thing about buying something is if you don't like you can always buy something else and make life happier.

THANK YOU

Grazie@Grazie, thank you? I allways use Vegas pro and the last purchased was vegas pro17 I don't want to downgrade to vegas pro edit.If Magix plan for most of the people around the world to afford to upgrade every year they must consider a better price. Not to many are ready to spent 2000$ on vegas upgrades in the next 10 year.

This price will naturally force people to crack the software.Don't get me wrong people, I love vegas and I wish to be the best NLE.But I don't want vegas to sale 4000 upgrades for $200 and make 800K /year but I wish to sale 1milion upgrades for $99 and to make 100 milion per year because more people will afford the software upgrade

 

Grazie thank you? I allways use Vegas pro and the last purchased was vegas pro17 I don't want to downgrade to vegas pro edit.If Magix plan for most of the people around the world to afford to upgrade every year they must consider a better price. Not to many are ready to spent 2000$ on vegas upgrades in the next 10 year.

This price will naturally force people to crack the software.Don't get me wrong people, I love vegas and I wish to be the best NLE.But I don't want vegas to sale 4000 upgrades for $200 and make 800K /year but I wish to sale 1milion upgrades for $99 and to make 100 milion per year because more people will afford the software upgrade

Edit is the same Vegas as Vegas Pro- the difference is the bundle/plugins. We're talking a difference of ~$50. Magix also has somewhat different pricing in different markets.

There's no real need to upgrade with every version if you don't want to. I went from 12-15 myself.

This price will naturally force people to crack the software.

@Ciprian-Caizar
For real?
You don't HAVE to buy - as with other software companies that only sell with subscription - only if you find the new functions useful and valuable.

And cracked versions - are certainly not supported here in the forum.
https://www.vegascreativesoftware.info/de/forum/sony-vegas-vs-vegas--119881/

@Ciprian-Caizar Its all relative really. For example, you mentioned the difficulties in editing the R5 hevc footage, for sure I hope Magix addresses that soon. But in the grande scheme of things, relatively speaking, an R5 would pay for 20 years of VP.

That's a really good point @JN- . As I understand it, the R5 camera price is for the body only, so adding a decent lens could mean that 30 + years of Vegas Pro upgrades might be possible with the lens added into the equation; after all, the camera is useless without a lens. A one-off Vegas Pro upgrade price is trivial in comparison.

But back to Vegas Pro upgrade pricing. The only difference between VP Edit and VP -

https://www.vegascreativesoftware.com/us/vegas-pro/product-comparison/#productMenu

- is that VP has in addition to Edit the yet to be released Vegas Prepare (media management) and Sound Forge Pro 14. Whether anybody needs media management is a personal choice, but $40 USD extra (VP over VP Edit) to get Sound Forge Pro (usual RRP is $399 USD but is on sale until cob today at $249 USD) is great value if you don't already have a recent version of Sound Forge Pro or an equivalent and would like SoundForge Pro 14.

Of course, if you don't need media management in the form of Vegas Prepare (of which there have been few details released) or SoundForge Pro 14, then the Edit version is the one to go for.

Maybe this is a good deal for you...

Professional Video Pro X and Movie Studio 16

https://www.humblebundle.com/software/your-sounds-your-movies-rebundle-software?hmb_source=navbar&hmb_medium=product_tile&hmb_campaign=tile_index_11

This price will naturally force people to crack the software.

@Ciprian-Caizar
For real?
You don't HAVE to buy - as with other software companies that only sell with subscription - only if you find the new functions useful and valuable.

And cracked versions - are certainly not supported here in the forum.
https://www.vegascreativesoftware.info/de/forum/sony-vegas-vs-vegas--119881/

 

who cares about the forum?

That's a really good point @JN- . As I understand it, the R5 camera price is for the body only, so adding a decent lens could mean that 30 + years of Vegas Pro upgrades might be possible with the lens added into the equation; after all, the camera is useless without a lens. A one-off Vegas Pro upgrade price is trivial in comparison.

But back to Vegas Pro upgrade pricing. The only difference between VP Edit and VP -

https://www.vegascreativesoftware.com/us/vegas-pro/product-comparison/#productMenu

- is that VP has in addition to Edit the yet to be released Vegas Prepare (media management) and Sound Forge Pro 14. Whether anybody needs media management is a personal choice, but $40 USD extra (VP over VP Edit) to get Sound Forge Pro (usual RRP is $399 USD but is on sale until cob today at $249 USD) is great value if you don't already have a recent version of Sound Forge Pro or an equivalent and would like SoundForge Pro 14.

Of course, if you don't need media management in the form of Vegas Prepare (of which there have been few details released) or SoundForge Pro 14, then the Edit version is the one to go for.

Well the R5 was $3890 but normally like with canon 5D2 I am set for the next 10 years, that will brake to a $390/year. Vegas pro upgrades at $200/year will sum $2000 in 10 years to get great photos for my photo business and to do some videos. I have Adobe Photoshop Classic +Photoshop CC+Lightroom that is more than enough for photo editing and PS+LR+Cloud storage for $99 per year. That 2 great software for a fair price ! Guys, just try to export 4K video in Final Cut and than try to render in Vegas and you will get the idea why not allot of people will upgrade VEGAS PRO for $200.In the last 10 years I experienced more than 10000 errors and stop working problems in Vegas Pro. Since not the $ is the problem but the quality of the software for that price I give Vegas another chance and yesterday I purchased the upgrade to 18 at a better price-$159 from BHvideo. If I asked Magix for a better price they were unable to make it possible. Now they will get even less that 159 because they will give some to BHvideo

As posted above by others, no one has to upgrade if they don't want to. You mention about keeping the camera for 10 years with no mention of upgrading it, yet you bring up upgrading Vegas every year.

If you were that concerned about Magix getting all the money from the purchase price of Vegas, why didn't you buy it direct then?

And if the quality of the product isn't worth the price, there are other choices. If I had 10000 errors in anything, I certainly would not be using it.

I seem to remember the R5 getting a firmware update, you know, the serious overheating issues, so I guess buying it initially wouldn't have been a good idea..... even if you never use the video (which was it's main advertising point)....

1. You don't have to upgrade every year. I went from Version 6 to 8, 14, and 18.

2. Software engineers deserve to make a living for their efforts. They are not on government welfare.

1. You don't have to upgrade every year. I went from Version 6 to 8, 14, and 18.

This only strengthen the OP claim. Let say that over the years Vegas has 100K users but Magix sells only 10K licensees a year then either Vegas is too expensive or the "new yearly features" are not appealing.

* On the other hand, spending 5K+ just for R5 and maybe 5K+ on a system to handle the material then what are 150$. The OP plan to use the hardware for 10 years?? I wonder does he still uses hardware from 10 years ago.

I don't get why consumers bother to speculate about the business strategy of a company. Vegas has a variety of price discrimination, from different pricing in different markets, to various bundles and collaborations (Hitfilm/Post for example), to starter software, to discounts for repeat buyers, to a monthly payment plan.

Sure you can say you want it cheaper, but can you really say the increased number of purchases will outweigh the loss of revenue per purchase?

As posted above by others, no one has to upgrade if they don't want to. You mention about keeping the camera for 10 years with no mention of upgrading it, yet you bring up upgrading Vegas every year.

If you were that concerned about Magix getting all the money from the purchase price of Vegas, why didn't you buy it direct then?

 

And if the quality of the product isn't worth the price, there are other choices. If I had 10000 errors in anything, I certainly would not be using it.

I seem to remember the R5 getting a firmware update, you know, the serious overheating issues, so I guess buying it initially wouldn't have been a good idea..... even if you never use the video (which was it's main advertising point)....

Why I need to upgrade? Because Vegas is introducing small incremental upgrades every year that are tempting us.Is like having a camera that receive every year a small incremental firmware upgrade that cost 200, in addition of the 500 original price and people. Like to have improvements .

You ask me :If I am concer about Magic...why I was not getting the soft direct from Magic? I will if the match the price.Price! price! Price!

I just try to be honest.You might be surprise how many people I trained online how to use Vegas.I am not against Vegas.I talk good about vegas to others to get into it.But here , in this forum I feel like talking in the family.The people outside that family will not know all the inside talks.Inside the family is always sugary love and sour taste time to time.

Regarding errors in Vegas.How long ago did you stat using vegas.Me i did use it before was sony vegas.It use to be Sonic Foundry brand in 2000, I believe it was vegas Pro 2 or3 when I start using it.Donyou ever tandem 4k in Vegas Pro.Did you try to Randers a 2 hours 4096. 4k with some moderate video fx and collor grading.On my AMD 3950x + RRX 3090 the exporting time is ridiculous high.

[sarcasm rant coming]

If the "small incremental" updates do not improve your editing workflow, then do not buy. To upgrade to the next version of say, VP19 Edit, the price is usually around Black Friday, $149. Average that out over a year, it's about $12.50 per month. Not much if you put the money aside each month.

As for people who STEAL, I hope someone "pirates" their services when they expect to be paid for work they have done. Although, that is not quite what I really want to say....

And for not buying direct, I would like to know where you can get VP for less than what is advertised on the Magix site. You can't. You complain about a $10 difference for Edit now, but what you really want Boris, NBFX, SF, etc to be included. Isn't going to happen. All those plugin people need to be paid too.

People say they like using VP, but the price is too high. Oh well, I'd love a new Corvette, but guess what.... Chevy isn't going to lower the price for "me".

I personally get a kick out of people that say they've been using the software like... forever. And... what does that mean? What does that entitle you to? If it were so so buggy... I'd move on to something else. I've done that in the past, and will in the here and now, and in the future if necessary.

Let's see, you are complaining about the high price of Vegas upgrade, then talk about editing 4K on a super expensive computer. Really.... I was not born yesterday.....

Oh, I helped someone get started with Vegas 18 a month or so ago, and guess what, he paid for it. He also paid for Boris Continuum 2021 Complete and Sapphire Render. Yeah... he paid for it and didn't complain. But then he is a professional and is getting paid to edit.

[sarcasm rant off]