@Dexcon @lan-mLMC Thanks for the info - I should have thought of that :)
I checked and it is still the 20.0.0.0; which means that the "default" update method (the one that asks you if you want to update) does not update the deep learning. That is a big oversight...
I checked my registry after downloading via the link Deep Learning Models 20.2: https://rdir.magix.net/?page=L5I8D7PH8VIF and it is 20.2
I can confirm that I am one of the people for whom TP7 works fine on build 214. Or at least a fine as it did in previous builds, in that the OFX version still doesn't show any video from Vegas as a background in the designer's preview window, so you are kind of working blind. Did anyone ever figure out a workaround for this?
@MikeS .... If you are using TP7 added as an FX directly to a video event (i.e. not as a media gen on a higher track), make sure that TP7's menu View/Background is set to 'Video from NLE'. That works for me in VP20b214.as well as previous VP versions.
But if you are adding TP7 as a media gen on a higher track, TP7 is not able to display in its workspace the image from a video event on a lower VP track. The last TP version that could do that was TP5. There's a history of this loss of function on the forum some years ago.
With the latter, what you could do is to add TP7 as an FX to the video event, design the title in TP7, save the project, delete or disable TP7 from that video event, add TP7 as a media gen to a higher track and import the saved project. The similar workaround also applies to BorisFX's Title Studio.
>But if you are adding TP7 as a media gen
Yep, that's what I was doing. Perhaps they should disable the 'Video from NLE' option in this case if said functionality has been removed; that would be good UI design (even if removing the functionality itself is bad design ... ;-) )
they really need to address the updater in Vegas. Slow.. been that way for a long time. More bandwidth needed :) Or give us the downloadable link..
The bandwidth issue is something high on the priority list for our IT department. The just finished a major update of the customer service system, which had taken almost a year to implement. Hopefully they will now be freed up to try to address this issue.
It took about one hour to download 😕 Anyway - the update process went smoothly, and everything seems to work just fine 👍
…or almost everything. VEGAS Movie Expansion Pack still not compatible with Vegas Pro 20 😒
Can confirm. Titler Pro 7 still fails to launch.
they really need to address the updater in Vegas. Slow.. been that way for a long time. More bandwidth needed :) Or give us the downloadable link..
The bandwidth issue is something high on the priority list for our IT department. The just finished a major update of the customer service system, which had taken almost a year to implement. Hopefully they will now be freed up to try to address this issue.
It took about one hour to download 😕 Anyway - the update process went smoothly, and everything seems to work just fine 👍
…or almost everything. VEGAS Movie Expansion Pack still not compatible with Vegas Pro 20 😒
Can confirm. Titler Pro 7 still fails to launch.
Titler Pro 7 works fine with my system... but then again, it worked before the latest 214 update too. Sorry you're having issues.
Can't wait for my RTX 4090 to arrive to see no difference once again
I just got a EVGA 3090ti, preview exactly the same as the 2080ti if not slightly choppier, but it does render twice as fast but who really cares about rending a 5 minute video in 4.30 or 2 minutes it all about the preview when editing. And I will never figure out why Gopro footage is so much more choppier without perending (proxy)
who really cares about rending a 5 minute video in 4.30 or 2 minutes
Had a recent transcode where I needed to swap audio and fix color. Render took 12 hours so do I care if it's 12 or 5? Sure.
The NVIDIA changes from generation to generation are more on the 3D calculations side than decoding so I wouldn't expect massive differences in decoding or rendering. Apply GPU-enabled Fx and there should be big differences.
Okay, I don't know why no one is talking about this, but... The new preview is showing the pixelated video, previously the videos were shown a little blurry, which was better for viewing.
When the function is disabled, in addition to continuing with the pixelated view, when the preview quality is changed, a zoom in the middle of the image is performed. 🤦♂️🤦♂️🤦♂️
Why are you changing preview scaling by disabling and enabling that? If it doesn't scale it will zoom to the center as your monitor doesn't have enough resolution to show the rest. That's not new and to be expected.
For less blurry try full over auto. I use best/full and preview/full myself.
@RogerS Dude, it has nothing to do with what you're talking about. In the previous version, even in the previous build, before having the scaling option. We could change the preview quality and no zoom was done.
And about blurring, I said I prefer blurry over pixelated. I use Auto instead of Full so there is no crash in the preview during editing, when I need to see something better I put Full at the moment.
@RogerS This happens because previously there was an option in the preview that, when turned off, made this zoom when the preview quality was changed.
https://imgur.com/a/EVV2SBn
In this build it was replaced by the manual zoom option. Where it is no longer possible to disable manual zoom without activating the zoom when we change the preview quality.
@Dexcon @lan-mLMC Thanks for the info - I should have thought of that :)
I checked and it is still the 20.0.0.0; which means that the "default" update method (the one that asks you if you want to update) does not update the deep learning. That is a big oversight...
I checked my registry after downloading via the link Deep Learning Models 20.2: https://rdir.magix.net/?page=L5I8D7PH8VIF and it is 20.2
@andyrpsmith obviously using the direct link it updated the Deep Learning Models to 20.2 in my case as well; my point is that when I did the original "default" upgrade (thus without using the links - as proposed by the system) did not upgrade the deep learning models, it only updated VP to 214. I can imagine quite a lot of people who are not on the forum or are just updating normal "default" upgrading automatically, are still stuck with older deep learning models without even noticing.
Yes you are right, the same happened to me when upgrading. I didn't even know about it until I read about it on the forum. I wonder why Magix changed the upgrade method/
Just want to say thanks to the Vegas team for adding the preview window zoom feature! It's a small thing but such a great quality-of-life improvement when making selections for white balance. Before this I always had to rearrange the window layout back and forth making the whole video preview larger and smaller.
Vegas 20 Build 214 comments.
Setup: (I7, 32 MB RAM, NVidia 1510Ti, SSD and one 4K display on SDR mode. Shuttle pro v2+keyboard+mouse)
Video projects setups: 8-bit projects, 1080p, 4K, some 8K and GoPro clips. Did not use Titler Pro plugin based on problem comments here. Did clipping and marginal color correction mostly.
Initially Vegas was laggy. Major improvement happened when turned live save off and unchecked legacy HEVC decoding and started using proxies 4K and bigger resolutions. >> Now it is pretty good. Cannot say, if configuration changes could have worked also to earlier version.
Crash count is very low. Stopped using live save and now using only 1 minute interval save.
Improvement ideas:
This product is now clearly improving. Well done!
I'm getting V20 214 crashing - freezing with spinning circle and then white screen of death while reducing volume with the central volume handle. I am working on an older project from V18 which is XAVCS at 4K originally 25fps but converted to 24fps to render to Blu-Ray. I have converted back to 25fps by removing the original time stretch. I have been going through the clips and taking off my original colour grading and just use levels filter. Some clips have stabilization (legacy) and pan crop to ensure level horizon. Dealing with the video side is all OK no crash. It's when I reduce the volume level, some clips are Ok and I scrub through after a short time V20 freezes. Restart and after a short time same again. Reboot PC and restart V20 same again. What I might also try is assembling the project as new and see if I get the same problem. Not had this issue before with any other Vegas version. [I'm also looking at whether turning autosave off helps as the crashing is not immediate but a little time after.]
Update: No it's crashing while doing other things now such as positioning the curser between two clips and moving a frame at a time either backwards or forwards.
Hello there, i'm still on V19 (last update), didn't upgraded to V20 yet, after reading so much issue since the release date in august. still see no improvement or feature for my workflow except one.
is someone tried or tested and put an example somewhere of the improvement in the colorization plugin ? it's a feature that a love, but it really not as accurate as some other stuff, like free DeOldify Video Colorize. I did many test with the deep learning version i have in V19 and it's very far away from the quality of deoldiy. would love to see if there was any improvement in that or some comment on it and see if the upgrade would be "acceptable". Thanks !
@Marty74 .... you could always install the trial version of VP20 (should be build 214) and install the 20.2.0.0 version of the Deep Learning Models (the latter from https://www.vegascreativesoftware.info/us/forum/vegas-pro-20-build-214--137660/) and check Colorization out for yourself in order to form your own opinion.
@Marty74 .... you could always install the trial version of VP20 (should be build 214) and install the 20.2.0.0 version of the Deep Learning Models (the latter from https://www.vegascreativesoftware.info/us/forum/vegas-pro-20-build-214--137660/) and check Colorization out for yourself in order to form your own opinion.
Already tried a trial of the V20 when it has been released, so not sure i'm allowed to run an another trial when a new update is released.
Already tried a trial of the V20 when it has been released, so not sure i'm allowed to run an another trial when a new update is released.
Yep ... I think that unfortunately you are snookered with VP20 as far as the trial version goes.
20 seems to be more stable than 19, no crash so far with this new version.
My thanks to the development team for that !
But ... the "Video Stabilizer" media effect seems to be broken in VP 20 (build 214). Any insight ?
@Marty74 .... you could always install the trial version of VP20 (should be build 214) and install the 20.2.0.0 version of the Deep Learning Models (the latter from https://www.vegascreativesoftware.info/us/forum/vegas-pro-20-build-214--137660/) and check Colorization out for yourself in order to form your own opinion.
Already tried a trial of the V20 when it has been released, so not sure i'm allowed to run an another trial when a new update is released.
No trial but you could pay for a one month subscription plan and cancel if it doesn't work for you.
No trial but you could pay for a one month subscription plan and cancel if it doesn't work for you.
Thanks, but i'll not pay just to try a version and discover that it's certainly not "good" yet, i'll wait reviews or will find someone on facebook on one of Vegas group for someone who will accept to do a test for me, but i highly doubt it's a lot better for the colorisation part. we'll see.