@Todd-A0, you can also use Shutter Encoder to conform your footage to 60fps fixed.
@Illusion I submit these files to improve Vegas, it's not about me, I'd open my own thread for that. The reason it seeems like a bug is the randomness, could flicker 20 times, 1 time, not at all, or any other number. it can occur with DRP see to 0 or any other value. I have seen this on iphone13 and 14 files in bright light, and would not be expected to be jumping between 30fps and 60fps, but I don't know precisely how iphones autofps30/60 triggers and agree should be turned off if the footage is going anywhere near an editor.
Not seeing the black frames in other editors but if anyone else does that would be good info.
(ref: Random black frames - preview and encode https://www.dropbox.com/s/8zj5njudr50v8uh/4K60p%20iphone13.mov?dl=0 )
The same black frame problem with this 8bit AVC file shared by a forum user
https://www.dropbox.com/s/mo0bc1jg6sl2k6s/810A6534.MP4?dl=0
The interesting(alarming?) thing about the AVC is that it's all I frame
Hello everyone,
The VEGAS Team is excited to announce the release of our second update for VEGAS Pro 20, build 326. Please use this thread to post general comments on this update. For details on build 326, please read this post in the News forum.
Thank you,
The VEGAS Creative Software Team
Maybe it is better in such announcements to add:; " but when you encounter problems that need a solution start also your own post with your detailed information about your problem" or something like that
+1
Terrible, it's now slow as a dog. Drag and drop video and it does set itself out to the right length. Just awful. Did you guys actually test this. This software is now a paperweight. To say I am angry right now is an understatement.
Just a taste of things to come... please give your feedback in that thread, we need it to help shape the development of this feature.
I hope not
Terrible, it's now slow as a dog. Drag and drop video and it does set itself out to the right length. Just awful. Did you guys actually test this. This software is now a paperweight. To say I am angry right now is an understatement.
In your one and only original post on 1 Dec 22, you were asked in an early response:
Please state more information, Read Nick's 'important-information-required-to-help-you .
If you want any help, please provide the requested information as per: https://www.vegascreativesoftware.info/us/forum/important-information-required-to-help-you--110457/
... because at the moment your media and computer details are unknown and without that essential information people on the forum are effectively in a void about how to help or offer suggestions. It's over to you now.
Terrible, it's now slow as a dog. Drag and drop video and it does set itself out to the right length. Just awful. Did you guys actually test this. This software is now a paperweight. To say I am angry right now is an understatement.
In your one and only original post on 1 Dec 22, you were asked in an early response:
Please state more information, Read Nick's 'important-information-required-to-help-you .
If you want any help, please provide the requested information as per: https://www.vegascreativesoftware.info/us/forum/important-information-required-to-help-you--110457/
... because at the moment your media and computer details are unknown and without that essential information people on the forum are effectively in a void about how to help or offer suggestions. It's over to you now.
December was fixed.
RTX 370 Ti Laptop - Studio Driver 528.24.
Operating System
Platform: Windows 11.0 (64-bit)
Version: 10.00.22621
Language: English
System locale: English
User locale: English
Processor
Class: 12th Gen Intel(R) Core(TM) i9-12900H
Identifier: GenuineIntel
Number of processors: 20
MMX available: Yes
SSE available: Yes
SSE2 available: Yes
SSE3 available: Yes
SSSE3 available: Yes
SSE4.1 available: Yes
SSE4.2 available: Yes
Display
Primary: 2560x1600x32
Memory
Physical memory: 32,459.2 MB
Paging memory available: 39,627.3 MB
After the update, every time I add a video to the timeline and attempt to click on the video in the video track, Vegas proceeds to hang "Not responding" and one of my CPU cores is on 100% utilization. (EDIT: Once I started complaining here, it has resolved itself... after 5 restarts...)
Same here - definite, noticeable timeline lag - lots of "waiting for the hard drive to stop running" - it's like the freeze before a Windows driver crash, only it comes back after a few seconds.
And, yes, drivers are updated and system was rebooted after update.
@Lauence-Monk .. thank you for the computer information. Hopefully the information requested under Point C - especially the MediaInfo report (a free app) at C-1 - will soon be on its way to the forum.
Try turning off the project collections feature in Hub which can lag after the project saves.
I was the first to post on this thread, but I am pleased to say the latest version is now running on my computer.
The problem was caused by the driver amdxc64.dll which refused to update. That has now been fixed by my local computer wizard.
Apologies if I seem to be slow in reporting but editing is my hobby.
Thanks to all who commented..
Terrible, it's now slow as a dog. Drag and drop video and it does set itself out to the right length. Just awful. Did you guys actually test this. This software is now a paperweight. To say I am angry right now is an understatement.
In your one and only original post on 1 Dec 22, you were asked in an early response:
Please state more information, Read Nick's 'important-information-required-to-help-you .
If you want any help, please provide the requested information as per: https://www.vegascreativesoftware.info/us/forum/important-information-required-to-help-you--110457/
... because at the moment your media and computer details are unknown and without that essential information people on the forum are effectively in a void about how to help or offer suggestions. It's over to you now.
December was fixed.
RTX 370 Ti Laptop - Studio Driver 528.24.
Operating System
Platform: Windows 11.0 (64-bit)
Version: 10.00.22621
Language: English
System locale: English
User locale: EnglishProcessor
Class: 12th Gen Intel(R) Core(TM) i9-12900H
Identifier: GenuineIntel
Number of processors: 20
MMX available: Yes
SSE available: Yes
SSE2 available: Yes
SSE3 available: Yes
SSSE3 available: Yes
SSE4.1 available: Yes
SSE4.2 available: YesDisplay
Primary: 2560x1600x32Memory
Physical memory: 32,459.2 MB
Paging memory available: 39,627.3 MB
You still didn't provide the information requested. If you want help, you're going to have to provide it. We need your project settings, your mediainfo report, as well as the system specs (which you provided). Best to not post those here, but in their own thread, so we can keep track of your issue easier without it getting buried under a ton of other posts. And yes, this software went through months of testing. That doesn't mean that we tested very possible combination of media file on every possible combination of hardware, such is impossible, but it was thoroughly tested. All media I drop on to any timeline on any system responds as it should. So we gotta figure out why yours isn't.
ok how do I get the mediainfo report. It keeps crashing and the audio is just screaming.
I'm sending my crash dumps
Format : MPEG-4
Format profile : Base Media
Codec ID : isom (isom/iso6/dby1/iso2/avc1/mp41)
File size : 11.2 GiB
Duration : 4 min 27 s
Overall bit rate mode : Variable
Overall bit rate : 360 Mb/s
videoai : Stabilized full frame with smoothness 50. Motion blur removed using Themis. Slowmo 100% and framerate changed to 50 using chf-3. Enhanced using prob-3 auto with recover details at 0, dehalo at 0, reduce noise at 0, sharpen at 0, revert compression at 0, and anti-alias/deblur at 0. Changed resolution to 3840x2160
encoder : Lavf59.35.100
Video
ID : 1
Format : AVC
Format/Info : Advanced Video Codec
Format profile : High@L5.2
Format settings : CABAC / 2 Ref Frames
Format settings, CABAC : Yes
Format settings, Reference frames : 2 frames
Codec ID : avc1
Codec ID/Info : Advanced Video Coding
Duration : 4 min 27 s
Bit rate mode : Variable
Bit rate : 360 Mb/s
Width : 3 840 pixels
Height : 2 160 pixels
Display aspect ratio : 2.40:1
Frame rate mode : Constant
Frame rate : 50.000 FPS
Color space : YUV
Chroma subsampling : 4:2:0
Bit depth : 8 bits
Scan type : Progressive
Bits/(Pixel*Frame) : 0.868
Stream size : 11.2 GiB (100%)
Color range : Limited
Codec configuration box : avcC
Audio
ID : 2
Format : AC-3
Format/Info : Audio Coding 3
Commercial name : Dolby Digital
Codec ID : ac-3
Duration : 4 min 27 s
Bit rate mode : Constant
Bit rate : 256 kb/s
Channel(s) : 2 channels
Channel layout : L R
Sampling rate : 48.0 kHz
Frame rate : 31.250 FPS (1536 SPF)
Compression mode : Lossy
Stream size : 8.17 MiB (0%)
Service kind : Complete Main
Default : Yes
Alternate group : 1
@Lauence-Monk
It's better to start your own post for clarity
Terrible, it's now slow as a dog.
videoai : Stabilized full frame with smoothness 50. Motion blur removed using Themis. Slowmo 100% and framerate changed to 50 using chf-3. Enhanced using prob-3 auto with recover details at 0, dehalo at 0, reduce noise at 0, sharpen at 0, revert compression at 0, and anti-alias/deblur at 0. Changed resolution to 3840x2160
Are you saying you used Topaz Video AI to do all of those things, or are some of those effects being applied in VEGAS? It could be the video format that Topaz is exporting does not decode easily, which is what is causing your performance issues.
I also agree, start a new thread with this info in it, otherwise it'll get buried under other people's posts.
@Lauence-Monk The screeching audio is easy to explain, VP20 doesn't support AC3 audio so not technically a bug although it seems more sensible to not load the audio track then have it screech.
Edit: I had forgotten I think there's some sort of hack to return AC3 audio if you have an older Vegas that supports it. I am guessing this is the reason the track is loaded and screeches. When you add the files required to decode AC3 the audio will probably work fine (based on previous posts about previous Vegas versions)
VP20 doesn't support AC3 audio
Is that correct? My understanding is that for a few years now Vegas has been using Windows components to decode Dolby AC-3. But only two channel, not five. Lauence's media info indicates two channel.
If it is correct then VP20 may be unsuitable for many users as AC-3 audio is still common, at least with consumer AVCHD cameras.
@EricLNZ Pretty sure you're right, 5.1 AC-3 does screech, but screeching has been reported for other audio codecs too. The posts I was recalling was about re-enabling 5.1 AC-3
The posts I was recalling was about re-enabling 5.1 AC-3
That is covered in point 31 in VEGAS Pro FAQs and TROUBLESHOOTING GUIDES with a link to:
It relates to the Dolby AC3 Pro feature that last came with Vegas Pro 13:
So the short answer is Vegas 20 will decode AC-3 stereo audio in a video file.
EricNZ yes it does, but apparently not for Lauence, so he should open a thread about his multiple problems if he hasn't already
It's importing ok on my end... my gut is telling me it's those GPUs, definitely older than recommended spec... perhaps a driver update might help? Worth a shot.
Many thanks (both you and Illusion) for testing. I've since had the chance to test on my girlfriend's laptop on the same build, and the files open fine. Interestingly the point Vegas crashes for me is the point my girlfriend's laptop activated the MainConcept MPEG 4 codec.
Here's what I've now tried. None of it worked, but it may save others troubleshooting time if they have the same problem. I'll stick with 214 for now and give the next update a go when it comes out.
Upgraded Windows 10 from 21H2 to 22H2 Launched Vegas (214) Ignored update, closed previous project Closed and relaunched Vegas Accepted the 326 update Chose to update when program is closed, then closed it to trigger the update Launched Vegas (326) and activated Clicked on the 55MB video clip in the Explorer tab, crashed Launched Vegas (326) Preferences -> Video -> GPU acceleration - turned from Radeon HD 6800 series to off Quit and relaunched Vegas Clicked on the 55MB video clip in the Explorer tab, crashed Uninstalled Vegas Pro 19.0 (643) as that's no longer required Launched Vegas (326) Clicked on the 55MB video clip in the Explorer tab, crashed Launched Vegas (326) Tried opening the previous project, crashed Uninstalled Voukoder connector for VEGAS 1.1.0.0 (forgot it was installed) Uninstalled Voukoder 6.2 (ditto) Launched Vegas (326) Tried opening the previous project, crashed Uninstalled Sound Forge 15.0 (no longer required) Launched Vegas (326) Disabled Avast file protection Tried opening the previous project, crashed Uninstalled all NewBlue bits and pieces Launched Vegas (326) Tried opening the previous project, crashed Updated to latest (beta) video drivers, as those are the only ones available newer than what was on there Launched Vegas (326) Tried opening the previous project, crashed Uninstalled 326 and reinstalled 214 Launched Vegas (214) and activated Tried opening the previous project, worked fine