VEGAS Pro 22 Build 194 General Discussion

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RogerS wrote on 11/11/2024, 2:04 AM

Hi guy was impressed with the editing experience in Vegas which I've been using since version 11, the rendering in 4K is a nightmare taking so long, recently started using Davinci and rendering using the GPU is way faster


@Yaadgar Are you asking for advice or just reporting your experience? MagixAVC and MagixHEVC are both GPU accelerated in VEGAS with certain settings.

snibchi1 wrote on 11/11/2024, 3:08 AM

After updating W11 23H2->24H2, Vegas can no longer find the graphics card in 'search driver updates'.

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Hajowo wrote on 11/11/2024, 1:13 PM

Almost my ideal. Because - if I delete a comment, the ducking in the listen track remains and has to be corrected manually.

Hi.

That is not the case. Here too, everything is OK. After deleting a comment, the comment disappears when the volume is lowered. So no complaints.

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ernie-tamminga wrote on 11/11/2024, 7:54 PM

Vegas Pro 22 build 194 hangs on startup.

I just upgraded from version 21. The installation appeared to work just fine, but when I start the program it gets as far as "Initializing UI" and... that's it. It just hangs there permanently.

I'm running Windows 11 with 64Gigs of memory and a powerful graphics card. Vegas Pro 20 and 21 both worked just fine. Not so version 22. Doesn't run at all.

Reyfox wrote on 11/12/2024, 2:46 AM

@ernie-tamminga have you tried RESETTING Vegas Pro?

snibchi1 wrote on 11/12/2024, 8:52 AM

Vegas 22.192 does not get the 4:3 display right. Nonsense is interpreted. It works very well in Vegas 21.315.
What is the problem?

VP 21: OK VP22: wrong

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Vollständiger Name :X:\Vegas Test\1998Rab (1).mp4
Format :MPEG-4
Format-Profil :Base Media
Codec-ID :isom (isom/iso2/avc1/mp41)
Dateigröße :1 024 MiB
Dauer :55 min 45 s
Gesamte Bitrate :2 566 kb/s
Bildwiederholungsrate :24.680 FPS
Kodierungs-Datum :2012-01-13 14:04:32 UTC
Tagging-Datum :2012-01-13 14:04:32 UTC
Kodierendes Programm :Lavf58.12.100

Video
ID :1
Format :AVC
Format/Info :Advanced Video Codec
Format-Profil :Main@L4.2
Format-Einstellungen :CABAC / 4 Ref Frames
Format-Einstellungen für CABAC :Yes
Format-Einstellungen für RefFrames :4 frames
Format settings, GOP :M=1, N=25
Codec-ID :avc1
Codec-ID/Info :Advanced Video Coding
Dauer :55 min 45 s
Bitrate :2 266 kb/s
Breite :720 pixels
Höhe :592 pixels
Bildseitenverhältnis :4:3
Bildwiederholungsrate :24.680 FPS
Standard :Component
Color space :YUV
Chroma subsampling :4:2:0
Bit depth :8 bits
Scantyp :Progressive
Bits/(Pixel*Frame) :0.215
Stream-Größe :893 MiB (87%)
Kodierungs-Datum :2012-01-13 14:04:32 UTC
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Color primaries :BT.709
Transfer characteristics :BT.709
Matrix coefficients :BT.709
Codec configuration box :avcC

Audio #1
ID :2
Format :AAC LC
Format/Info :Advanced Audio Codec Low Complexity
Codec-ID :mp4a-40-2
Dauer :55 min 45 s
Bitraten-Modus :Constant
Bitrate :160 kb/s
Kanäle :2 channels
Channel layout :L R
Samplingrate :48.0 kHz
Bildwiederholungsrate :46.875 FPS (1024 SPF)
Compression mode :Lossy
Stream-Größe :63.8 MiB (6%)
Sprache :German
Default :Yes
Alternate group :1
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Reyfox wrote on 11/12/2024, 9:12 AM

@snibchi1 I am not seeing that here. I've had the project settings set to 1920x1080 and was able to crop to 720x592 without issue in the Pan/Crop. Also, changed the Project settings to 720x592 and the results were obviously correct.

The only thing I can think of to test this fully is to have a sample of your footage to download.

720x592 project settings

1920x1080 project settings

snibchi1 wrote on 11/12/2024, 9:41 AM

@Reyfox 

Thank you very much. Here to download a small excerpt (my NAS sleeps between 0 and 08 am German time).

The video is very old (1998) and should be de-noised and de-shaken.

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Reyfox wrote on 11/12/2024, 9:54 AM

@snibchi1 thanks for the link. I am in CET just like you. I tried the link and the connection was timed out. If you have a sample footage you can upload to the cloud, like Google Drive if you have a Gmail account, that might be better for downloading the file.

 

snibchi1 wrote on 11/12/2024, 10:03 AM

@Reyfox I don't understand. The download works for me. But so be it. Let's try it with OneDrive!

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Reyfox wrote on 11/12/2024, 11:35 AM

@snibchi1 thanks. I was able to download the file. Initially, I got the same results as you. Squished video. But I did get it to display and play back properly.

Here is a screenshot of it with VP22 B194 and the settings I used in Preferences>File I/O. @set or @RogerS can you pass this up the "food chain"? This file plays perfectly fine with my AMD GPU in Magix Video Pro X14 and Magix Movie Studio 2024 Suite without any changes to the GPU setting.

Also to try on a computer other than an AMD one. Thanks!

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j-v wrote on 11/12/2024, 2:32 PM

@Reyfox
I saw the same problem on my laptop with Vegas 22 b 194, look at this screenshot with all default preferences

But after only one chqnge at File/IO I see this

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Reyfox wrote on 11/12/2024, 3:08 PM

@j-v, I tried that and still it didn't work. It might be one of those AMD GPU issues. If the Hardware Decoder is set to AMD, even with Enable Legacy AVC Decoding, Vegas will crash immediately to desktop. I have to have it set to OFF.

set wrote on 11/12/2024, 4:00 PM

@Reyfox @snibchi1, I can confirm the same issue with your video.

By default in VP22b194, it will be just squished!

The new mxcompoundplug.dll applied the pixel aspect ratio wrong.

Reverting back to so4compoundplug.dll decoding by 'Enable Legacy AVC Decoding' works:

 

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snibchi1 wrote on 11/12/2024, 4:18 PM

@j-v @Reyfox @set

Thank you for your support! I will give it a try. Other programs can handle my file very well. Even with AMD :-)

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set wrote on 11/12/2024, 4:27 PM

@snibchi1, Gern geschehen! Thanks also for providing your sample media.

I have forwarded the issue to VEGAS Team. This is another issue of newer decoding mxcompoundplug.dll engine.

Should anyone else also having trouble with their MP4 videos, don't hesitate to share the sample, more variations of mp4 sample can help the development.

Bandicam footages also has been confirmed and same workaround to fix.

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snibchi1 wrote on 11/12/2024, 4:57 PM

@set Thank you for your tip. I can now actually edit the video. 'Enable Legacy AVC Decoding' works

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EricLNZ wrote on 11/12/2024, 9:33 PM

I can confirm the same issue with your video.

By default in VP22b194, it will be just squished!

@set Can you alter the PAR in the Media's properties to correct it?

set wrote on 11/12/2024, 11:11 PM

@set Can you alter the PAR in the Media's properties to correct it?

Yes, but I will choose the closest PAR 'template' available, like PAL DV 1.0926

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snibchi1 wrote on 11/14/2024, 4:48 AM

@snibchi1, Gern geschehen! Thanks also for providing your sample media.

I have forwarded the issue to VEGAS Team. This is another issue of newer decoding mxcompoundplug.dll engine.

Should anyone else also having trouble with their MP4 videos, don't hesitate to share the sample, more variations of mp4 sample can help the development.

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@set The same error occurs with *.m4v files. If necessary, I can also upload an example here.

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Dexcon wrote on 11/14/2024, 4:55 AM

The same error occurs with *.m4v files. If necessary, I can also upload an example here.

This may be a different issue because there is a possibility that DRM copy protection may apply to .m4v media. From Wikipedia:

The M4V file format is a video container format developed by Apple and is very similar to the MP4 format. The primary difference is that M4V files may optionally be protected by DRM copy protection.

Apple uses M4V to encode video files in its iTunes Store. Unauthorized reproduction of M4V files may be prevented using Apple's FairPlay copy protection. A FairPlay-protected M4V file can only be played on a computer authorized (using iTunes) with the account that was used to purchase the video. [1] In QuickTime, M4V videos using FairPlay DRM are identified as "AVC0 Media".

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RogerS wrote on 11/14/2024, 5:44 AM

What is the source of the M4V files? Also Bandicam?

snibchi1 wrote on 11/14/2024, 5:57 AM

Puhh... The video is from 2002. I had a Hi8 camera. I can't remember the type. There's no copy protection on it.

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Reyfox wrote on 11/14/2024, 5:59 AM

@snibchi1 upload a sample like before? 😉