cant open any older veg files! starts to load then stops at 2%.
Cannot repro -- so far I have opened old 9.0b 64 bit SD projects and 9.0c 32 bit projects in AVCHD with no problem.
Working on a SD project this morning in 9.0d 64bit. No issues.
rolled back to 9c 32 bit and alls well the veg files all open fine.
re install 9d 32 bit, veg files stall at 2% and the cineform avis do not import.
staying on 9c 32 bit,
john
I've installed 9d on my XP 32 bit. Install was flawless and so far I haven't noticed any problems. I even opened a very complex project with tons of filters and compositing.
I did however get this prompt when the I opened the project:
"An audio proxy file is being built. You can cancel this operation by clicking on the cancel button on the left side of the status bar. Working with certain types of media files with particular audio compression schemes can be inefficient and slow. To compensate for this, an audio proxy file is created for the formats to dramatically increase speed and performance."
I only have two types of files in this project, Sony XDCAM HD and DVD vob files. I take this to mean that Vegas was doing something with the vob files but I can't see anything in the project folder that looks like new proxies. Everything looks the same on the timeline as well.
One thing awkward about Photoshop layers-to-tracks is that it includes lots of layer objects that aren't useful in Vegas. Photoshop folders and Photoshop layer styles come in as empty layers. Layers made invisible come in anyway.
Not to look a gift horse in the mouth, it's great to have this feature but it'd be super-handy to get a dialog to choose the layers you want before dropping them across tracks. They should look at Flash and it's method of importing a PSD. And then they should do better.
Still, it's a welcome feature and I can adapt.
Adding this feature kind of begs the point about being able to create a nested Veg without leaving your current project. Wouldn't it be great if you could shift-drag the image to the timeline and get the choice of "Add to track as nested veg file with layers across tracks"? You wouldn't really even need the new veg to open when you create it. It just needs to get created.
Why would you want this? Well, for one thing let's suppose you want to add 3 photoshop files as layers across tracks. 1 file has 3 layers, 1 has 10, and 1 has 20. It'd be a lot easier to deal with if all of these were nested veg files, especially if half your tracks are going to be useless layers.
It's a slippery slope here because it suggests other useful features, like "create empty nested veg file here" (like an empty event), as well as a tabbed timeline so that you could open the empty veg files without leaving the project (Or you could open them in a new instance of Vegas, of course.)
Last point here. It'd be super-nice if you could also import other multi-layer file types, especially GIMP's native format. Not a requirement but it'd be very cool.
Just a question for everyone. I haven't downloaded the 9d updates yet. Does the 9d installer uninstall 9c by itself? In the past, I uninstalled the previous version manually and then installed the new version. The only hassle usually, is reentering the S/N.
I've never uninstalled first. Vegas point revs have always installed over the previous point, full versions have always installed alongside the previous versions.
However, what you're doing is a better practice, I suppose.
Yep. It's something like over-writing 9.0c -- you do not have to de-install any version of 9.0 ..No need to enter serial numbers if you have a legit version of 9.0 installed. 8.0 versions are unaffected....so you cannot run 9.0c and 9.0d on the same machine -- if you wanted to go from 9.0d back to 9.0c you would have to de-install 9.0d and then install 9.0c.
"An audio proxy file is being built. You can cancel this operation by clicking on the cancel button on the left side of the status bar. Working with certain types of media files with particular audio compression schemes can be inefficient and slow. To compensate for this, an audio proxy file is created for the formats to dramatically increase speed and performance."
could this be the problem? 9d is now loading a veg file but has taken 8 mins so far and only at 60%
ok sorry to bring this up again but a user on dvinfo also reports the same problem.
I eventually loaded a veg file but it took a good 10 mins to load!
saved the file, closed vegas and re opened hoping for a quick load but no another 10 mins later before it opens.
it also has all my cineform files within the veg file as interlaced, they were set as progressive in the veg and were always loaded as such in 9c.
Hmmm...maybe that's the wrong phrase... It's a really good thing!
One project that we do regularly is a motherboard tour with callouts. We've always prepped the image with boxes and arrows on their own layers in photoshop. Now that you can spread the layers out down a single track it'd be very easy to just use the photoshop file for the movie. We'd just need to deal with the empty clips that represent folders.
I have upgraded to Vegas 9.0d and upgraded to latest NEOHD. Yes I know, never update two things at once. A project located on a network drive which took 10 seconds to open in 9.0c now takes about 10 minutes to open. Also switching to another window and back takes about 10 minutes now. Once the project is on screen, everything seems to work flawlessly. I will now go back to 9.0c and upgrade only NEOHD to see if it is Vegas 9.0d or NEOHD that is causing problems.
9c is CONSIDERABLY faster at loading my veg files than 9d - I'd say 66% faster.
9c is CONSIDERABLY faster at allowing me to navigate around the timeline - in 9c there is NO delay but in 9d it's like having to wait for all the events to come back online, even though I've never left the program, and the preference tell Vegas to leave files online.
I can appreciate all those show-stoppers others have seen in 9a, 9b, and 9c.
Just installed 9.0d 32 bit. No installation issues. Smooth.
Opened the two hour AVCHD timeline with 285 AVCHD events.
Slow to open -- maybe 2-3 minutes. 9.0d opens same huge project in about half the time.
Not smooth at all zooming the timeline. Sticky. Jerky. Playback ok but not as smooth as 9.0d 64 bit on same project.
I'd say memory makes a difference as 9.0d 64 bit using 7 out of the my 8 gigs whereas 32 bit 9.0d is only showing 1 gig ?? Clearly I'm opting to use 9.0d 64 bit until I run into some show stopper .. so far I haven't.
I don't use any 3rd party software. I'm plain vanilla - Paul.
I have upgraded to Vegas 9.0d and upgraded to latest NEOHD. Yes I know, never update two things at once. A project located on a network drive which took 10 seconds to open in 9.0c now takes about 10 minutes to open. Also switching to another window and back takes about 10 minutes now. Once the project is on screen, everything seems to work flawlessly. I will now go back to 9.0c and upgrade only NEOHD to see if it is Vegas 9.0d or NEOHD that is causing problems
I dont think upgrading NeoHD is the problem, i havent upgraded NeoHD but projects take 10 mins to load!
I have now also had to go into each clip in the project and re name it progressive scan, deep joy, only 100 to go!
I am now at 9.0c with latest NEOHD and the project is opening in 10 seconds so it should be a Vegas problem. I think I will wait until 9.0e before trying to upgrade again.
Considering everyone seems to be having major problems it seems strange to me that Sony did not have any problems on their test machines or with their beta testing team (assuming they have one?)
Thanks to the beta testers on this forum for saving me a big headache today. The new features look nice so I was tempted.
How big were the projects - how many events, project length, video format(s)?
Mine, as stated, was entirely HDV, 781 events, spanning two tracks (1 each for audio and video), and lasting 5 hours (I think I said 4 hours in an earlier post).
Although all events are HDV, the project is set to be PAL DV Widescreen.
Nothing has changed on my system between working with 9c and 9d. 9c is smooth and responsive. I can give focus to a different app, and on returning to 9c, there are no periods of non-responsiveness. On the other hand, 9d is awkward, stutters like crazy, and gives me long periods of non-responsiveness.
Given that nothing has changed on my system, I point the finger at 9d.
How do we know that Sony hasn't had similar problems reported. Remember the show-stopper in 9a with title disappearing...?