Vegas Pro21 stops working when upload a video larger than 10GB

Simone-Tagliati wrote on 8/11/2024, 4:22 AM

Good morning everyone, thanks in advance to anyone who will try to help me. I have never had problems with Vegas Pro but today I tried to upload, and then edit, a video downloaded from Twitch of approximately 12 GB (MP4) and the program immediately stopped working and crashed. I thought about reducing the weight of the video but I only found paid programs and since Vegas Pro is a program that I consider extremely powerful, I hoped not to go through other sites. Do you have any advice? I already checked for new updates but nothing. Thanks

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gorGaram wrote on 8/11/2024, 4:34 AM

https://www.shutterencoder.com/

CPU: AMD Ryzen 7 3700X

VideoCard: NVIDIA GeForce RTX 4060 Ti 16Gb

Memory: 128Gb

OS: Windows 10 (1809)

Drive C: (SSD-500Gb) - ONLY system

Drive D: (HDD 4Tb) - ProrgamFiles and Temp
Drive E: (HDD 4Tb) - Work drive

Vegas Pro: 20.411, 21.315, 22.122

EricLNZ wrote on 8/11/2024, 4:36 AM

Let's have MediaInfo on your problem file. Instructions here https://www.vegascreativesoftware.info/us/forum/faq-how-to-post-mediainfo-and-vegas-pro-file-properties--104561/

Alternatively if you have MPC-HC player installed the info provided in its Properties\MediaInfo for the file will suffice.

@Simone-Tagliati

Simone-Tagliati wrote on 8/11/2024, 4:43 AM

Thanks, thanks, that's it @EricLNZ

General
Complete name                            : C:\Users\Simone\Downloads\2220559125-81649838-cf5b752b-2d16-4098-a262-ed34bfae07b8.mp4
Format                                   : MPEG-4
Format profile                           : Base Media
Codec ID                                 : isom (isom/iso2/avc1/mp41)
File size                                : 12.5 GiB
Duration                                 : 4 h 50 min
Overall bit rate mode                    : Constant
Overall bit rate                         : 6 188 kb/s
Frame rate                               : 60.000 FPS
Writing application                      : Lavf60.3.100
Conformance errors                       : 1
 mdat                                    : Yes
  0x09F00000                             : Yes
   General compliance                    : Element size 13471228646 is more than maximal permitted size 13434003622 (offset 0x38)

Video
ID                                       : 1
Format                                   : AVC
Format/Info                              : Advanced Video Codec
Format profile                           : High@L4.2
Format settings                          : CABAC / 4 Ref Frames
Format settings, CABAC                   : Yes
Format settings, Reference frames        : 4 frames
Format settings, GOP                     : M=3, N=120
Codec ID                                 : avc1
Codec ID/Info                            : Advanced Video Coding
Duration                                 : 4 h 50 min
Source duration                          : 4 h 50 min
Bit rate mode                            : Constant
Bit rate                                 : 6 003 kb/s
Width                                    : 1 920 pixels
Height                                   : 1 080 pixels
Display aspect ratio                     : 16:9
Frame rate mode                          : Variable
Frame rate                               : 60.000 FPS
Minimum frame rate                       : 58.824 FPS
Maximum frame rate                       : 62.500 FPS
Color space                              : YUV
Chroma subsampling                       : 4:2:0
Bit depth                                : 8 bits
Scan type                                : Progressive
Bits/(Pixel*Frame)                       : 0.048
Stream size                              : 12.2 GiB (97%)
Source stream size                       : 12.2 GiB (97%)
Color range                              : Limited
Color primaries                          : BT.709
Transfer characteristics                 : BT.709
Matrix coefficients                      : BT.709
mdhd_Duration                            : 17415318
Codec configuration box                  : avcC

Audio
ID                                       : 2
Format                                   : AAC LC
Format/Info                              : Advanced Audio Codec Low Complexity
Codec ID                                 : mp4a-40-2
Duration                                 : 4 h 50 min
Bit rate mode                            : Constant
Bit rate                                 : 168 kb/s
Channel(s)                               : 2 channels
Channel layout                           : L R
Sampling rate                            : 48.0 kHz
Frame rate                               : 46.875 FPS (1024 SPF)
Compression mode                         : Lossy
Stream size                              : 349 MiB (3%)
Default                                  : Yes
Alternate group                          : 1

EricLNZ wrote on 8/11/2024, 4:56 AM

@Simone-Tagliati It looks a little suspect. Try a rewrap with Shutterencoder. GorGaram gives the link a few posts above. A rewrap doesn't rerender so there's no quality loss.

gorGaram wrote on 8/11/2024, 5:57 AM

I made a ProRes 422 file about 50 gigabytes in size. It loaded up in Vegas normally and you can work with him. You need to look at what's wrong with the source file.

Last changed by gorGaram on 8/11/2024, 5:58 AM, changed a total of 1 times.

CPU: AMD Ryzen 7 3700X

VideoCard: NVIDIA GeForce RTX 4060 Ti 16Gb

Memory: 128Gb

OS: Windows 10 (1809)

Drive C: (SSD-500Gb) - ONLY system

Drive D: (HDD 4Tb) - ProrgamFiles and Temp
Drive E: (HDD 4Tb) - Work drive

Vegas Pro: 20.411, 21.315, 22.122

mark-y wrote on 8/11/2024, 7:42 AM

The advice to convert your Variable Frame Rate video to Constant Frame Rate in Shutter Encoder is correct.

Howard-Vigorita wrote on 8/11/2024, 10:47 AM

@Simone-Tagliati You might as well take a shot at doing a rewrap... it's not likely to do the trick but it's very quick and you might get lucky. A transcode to keep avc, but change vfr to cfr, is more likely to work but will take longer. Also very likely to work is a ProRes transcode. But file sizes may be an impediment. I just tried a 6mbps avc 4:2:0 HD clip transcoded to various ProRes flavors and got these increases in file sizes: Proxy: 11x, LT: 23x, and 422 Std: 34x... all past the 50 gb range starting with a 12.5 gb clip.

EricLNZ wrote on 8/11/2024, 6:30 PM

The advice to convert your Variable Frame Rate video to Constant Frame Rate in Shutter Encoder is correct.

The framerate variation is minor so I wouldn't expect Vegas to have a problem with it. So let's see first if a simple rewrap works.

UltraVista wrote on 8/11/2024, 10:04 PM

I see the same with VP22, but it doesn't crash, VP20 loads file, VP22 doesn't. Probably going to options/preferences/File IO/ and ticking legacy AVC and restarting will make it play.

Also VP22 gets the frame rate wrong, VP20 says 60fps = correct, VP22 says 59.94 = incorrect

EricLNZ wrote on 8/11/2024, 10:48 PM

I see the same

@UltraVista Please clarify what file you are using to see the same.

UltraVista wrote on 8/12/2024, 4:08 AM

@EricLNZ

  • Complete name                            : 20190720_455145888_Just Chatting.mp4
  • Format                                   : MPEG-4
  • Format profile                           : Base Media
  • Codec ID                                 : isom (isom/iso2/avc1/mp41)
  • File size                                : 19.6 GiB
  • Duration                                 : 9 h 21 min
  • Overall bit rate mode                    : Constant
  • Overall bit rate                         : 5 006 kb/s
  • Frame rate                               : 60.000 FPS
  • Writing application                      : Lavf58.26.101
  • Conformance errors                       : 1
  •  mdat                                    : Yes
  •   0x09F00000                             : Yes
  •    General compliance                    : Element size 21085273462 is more than maximal permitted size 21003231162 (offset 0x38)
  • Video
  • ID                                       : 1
  • Format                                   : AVC
  • Format/Info                              : Advanced Video Codec
  • Format profile                           : High@L4.2
  • Format settings                          : CABAC / 4 Ref Frames
  • Format settings, CABAC                   : Yes
  • Format settings, Reference frames        : 4 frames
  • Format settings, GOP                     : M=3, N=120
  • Codec ID                                 : avc1
  • Codec ID/Info                            : Advanced Video Coding
  • Duration                                 : 9 h 21 min
  • Bit rate mode                            : Constant
  • Bit rate                                 : 5 000 kb/s
  • Width                                    : 1 920 pixels
  • Height                                   : 1 080 pixels
  • Display aspect ratio                     : 16:9
  • Frame rate mode                          : Variable
  • Frame rate                               : 60.000 FPS
  • Minimum frame rate                       : 29.412 FPS
  • Maximum frame rate                       : 62.500 FPS
  • Color space                              : YUV
  • Chroma subsampling                       : 4:2:0
  • Bit depth                                : 8 bits
  • Scan type                                : Progressive
  • Bits/(Pixel*Frame)                       : 0.040
  • Stream size                              : 19.1 GiB (97%)
  • Color range                              : Limited
  • Matrix coefficients                      : BT.470 System B/G
  • Codec configuration box                  : avcC
  •