What is the fastest operating system to run Vegas Pro 19

LynMil wrote on 4/4/2023, 3:36 PM

What is the fastest operating system to run Vegas Pro 19. Will it run on Windows 10 Lite or Windows 11 Lite? or "Tiny 11 22H2?, or Windows 11 Super Lite ISO Phoenix Edition

My system is getting older and I am considering creating a dual boot with some sort of faster OS on the second boot just for working on 4k or higher res. videos? It will contain the bare minimums to do video editing. I have an Intel Core i7-9700 with 4700GHZ turbo boost 12mb cache, and 32 gb of ddr ram. GPU is NVidia GeForce GTX 1660-Ti with 6 gb of ram.

I was just wanting to test if the situation was the same for NLE's as for gamers. After doing a large amount of research I decide to do a dual boot with the second boot being Windows 11 X-Lite Rapture edition. Got all my drivers installed then installed Vegas Pro 19. When it came to register MAGIX Service Center Device Management stated: You can deactivate an unused device once a month. Your new device (This is not a new device) can then be activated for your product.

Both listings in Magix Service Center have the exact Desktop name. Both Detailed device Informations are exactly the same. Upon closing this window a message popped up stating: You have reached the maximum allowed number of simutaneously usable devices for this program (Which is ONE desktop). You can easily activate the software for this device through the Magix Service Center. My goal was to run back to back test on the same projects to determine if the modded Windows 11 X-Lite Rapture Edition was faster as every gamer claims it to be. (ps I NEVER game).

Update: After a lot of research I installed Windows 11 X-Lite Homecoming Edition from PhoenixOS. I ran Hitman Pro and discovered 2 Malwares and 1 possible malitious file. I then ran MalwareBytes and found other possible warning files. Removed them all then installed Vegas Pro 19 and all my Video and Audio Fx apps. I made the settings exactly the same and ran the exact project on both Operating Systems. I purposely used a project that was just starting to lag when played back on the timeline. I saw maybe only a 5% improvement on the X-lite Homing coming Edition, BUT the audio would skip on every project I tried. I would Highly NOT recommend using one of these Lite OS's. Cyber CPU Tech and others have YouTube channels on how to tweak the settings of your existing Windows 10 and 11, but you still won't see much improvement. Vegas Pro 20 does not seem to run any slower then 19 on my MicroSoft Windows 11 home edition.

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john_dennis wrote on 4/4/2023, 4:20 PM

"What is the fastest operating system to run Vegas Pro 19. Will it run on Windows 7?"

The official answer is no.

"My systems is getting older and I am considering creating a dual boot with some sort of faster OS on the second boot just for working on 4k or higher res. videos?"

I have run Windows 10 dual boot systems with 13-19 on one image and 20 on another. 4K will be hardware dependent. I saved a "last and final" Windows 7 image during the last week of official Microsoft support and have had no reason to restore it in a couple of years.

mark-y wrote on 4/4/2023, 9:55 PM

I have seen nothing to indicate that the operating system has a determining effect on Vegas performance. None.

You hardware on the other hand, isn't everything; it is the only thing.

RogerS wrote on 4/4/2023, 10:27 PM

The OS doesn't really matter, the biggest thing to speed up your system would be a better GPU.

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Try the
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VEGAS Pro 20 "Ad" benchmark: https://forms.gle/eErJTR87K2bbJc4Q7

Steve_Rhoden wrote on 4/5/2023, 3:27 AM

@LynMil From the options you have listed, none would be faster than the other where Vegas Pro is concerned..... Therefore creating a dual boot option would be pointless for what you are trying to achieve.

Reyfox wrote on 4/5/2023, 5:18 AM

I'm curious if Vegas would run on a "lite" Windows OS.

But run better? Hardware takes care of that, and proxy files.

Rednroll wrote on 4/5/2023, 4:39 PM

I recently read that Windows 11 tends to provide better performance over Win10 due to improved handling of multi-core CPU workloads. Now in real-life I'm typically more concerned with software compatibility and tend to hold off migrating to newer released OSes where these type of incompatibilities are still being resolved on the OS and software app development side. With my recent laptop purchase, against my better judgement I decided to move forward with using Windows 11. The jury is still out if that is a good decision or not. I'll know more once I start installing all my A/V apps, plugins and start using them to see if I'm greeted with any unanticipated grief. There's always that risk to take into consideration with apps like VP19 was not developed or tested on Win11 where compatibility tends to be a higher concern over performance.

Steve_Rhoden wrote on 4/6/2023, 2:24 PM

"unanticipated grief" LOL, That's a funny one @Rednroll.... Me, i aint touching Windows 11 with a long stick anytime or anywhere soon.... I follow the old adage: "stick to what works", and 10 & 7 does just that.

Reyfox wrote on 4/6/2023, 3:21 PM

@Steve_Rhoden I hated the move from Win 7 to 10. But then, after a few years, 10 settled down. I'm on Win11 Pro now, not a fan of it. But the word is, it is suppose to handle multi-core/thread CPU's better. I changed hardware when I went to Win 11, so really can't say.

Steve_Rhoden wrote on 4/6/2023, 7:20 PM

@Reyfox Yeah, that's the big mistake many users make. They upgrade Windows OS, but not their system hardware. You cannot upgrade Windows on the very same old hardware and expect to see big changes and improvements.

Rednroll wrote on 4/7/2023, 2:07 AM

"unanticipated grief" LOL, That's a funny one @Rednroll.... Me, i aint touching Windows 11 with a long stick anytime or anywhere soon.... I follow the old adage: "stick to what works", and 10 & 7 does just that.

LOL Yeah! I hear ya! I'm currently at that crossroad.. I purchased a new laptop recently. My initial thoughts was to stick with what I know works and I installed Win10 on it although all the laptop drivers said was for Win11. After installing Win10 and getting setup, I noticed new laptop performance was lower than expected. So as a troubleshooting step I went back and did a fresh install of Win11. The performance issue I was experiencing ended up being something else related to a bad battery and had to return the laptop. What I did notice between the Win10 vs Win11 installs was that the Realtek audio driver didn't properly install on the Win10 system. So now leaning towards the thought, "Maybe I should stick with Win11 to avoid driver compatibility issues"?

Current situation is that I now have fresh installs of Win10 and Win11 SSD image backups and waiting for the laptop to come back from repair and need to decide which I should move forward with when laptop arrives back. I kind of feel I'm being forced towards Win11 or potentially have to deal with non officially supported hardware driver related issues sticking with Win10.

RogerS wrote on 4/7/2023, 2:21 AM

For a fresh install on modern hardware I would (and did) go with Windows 11 at will be supported for longer.

Custom PC (2022) Intel i5-13600K with UHD 770 iGPU with latest driver, MSI z690 Tomahawk motherboard, 64GB Corsair DDR5 5200 ram, NVIDIA 2080 Super (8GB) with latest studio driver, 2TB Hynix P41 SSD, Windows 11 Pro 64 bit

Dell XPS 15 laptop (2017) 32GB ram, NVIDIA 1050 (4GB) with latest studio driver, Intel i7-7700HQ with Intel 630 iGPU (latest available driver), dual internal SSD (1TB; 1TB), Windows 10 64 bit

VEGAS Pro 19.651
VEGAS Pro 20.411
VEGAS Pro 21.208

Try the
VEGAS 4K "sample project" benchmark: https://forms.gle/ypyrrbUghEiaf2aC7
VEGAS Pro 20 "Ad" benchmark: https://forms.gle/eErJTR87K2bbJc4Q7

Rednroll wrote on 4/7/2023, 2:26 AM

Red pill or Blue Pill? LOL!

snibchi1 wrote on 4/7/2023, 3:51 AM

After many editors spend hundreds of dollars over time on NLE and addons, I'm already surprised at the stinginess in hardware and operating system. 

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Rednroll wrote on 4/7/2023, 9:29 AM

I re-read the OP’s question. It seems we all missed the question. They are referring to special builds non official MS supported OS versions. My understanding of these is they strip out services so they aren’t running in the background and can’t be run, thus the associated names “lite”. Seems to be a popular thing to do in the gaming community.

This would be a very unwise thing to do IMHO where there’s a much better approach to performing system tweaks if that’s what you’re into. OP mentioned they were unsuccessful completing Vegas registration with one of these OSes. Well yeah, a service used for that task may have been stripped out from the OS to make it lighter. So good luck figuring that one out. The OS you're running should now always default to the likely cause of the problem and not Vegas.

The better approach IMHO if you want to cut down on unneeded resources from running is to install the official version then disable them in MS config. That way if you run into issues, you can go turn them back on…they haven’t been stripped away, they just been manually disabled and being prevented from running.

An app like CCleaner Pro is good at assisting doing tweaks like this since it provides a more user friendly interface but it’s not doing things which can’t already be done manually with not so user friendly interfaces under task manager, registry editing, and ms config, etc adjustments. I've done a lot of this back in the WinXP days, but now just stick to disabling things from auto running on startup and disable them using CCleaner Pro when I notice they're running in the background and consuming a lot of resources. Then if I run into any unexpected problems just fire CCleaner back up and re-enable items until that problem goes away. You can't do that with these special build OSes which are made for folks who don't have knowledge in these areas by folks who may or may not understand what they're disabling and stripping out. They're just looking at checking to see if most common feature items still work and the system seems to run faster because other items have been turned off and stripped out from running in the background.

 

Howard-Vigorita wrote on 4/7/2023, 1:16 PM

The reason OP got an "out of licenses" message is because a dual boot was implemented and an active license was attempted on both partitions and came up 1 license short. The Windows Device ID (Windows settings: System/About) is what's widely used to uniquely identify machines for licensing. Not just the Desktop name which would be trivial to circumvent. Device ID comes up different for each boot partition. Also comes up different after upgrading win10 to win11 on the same partition. When at your license limit, best to deactivate the working registration (via the Vegas help menu) in the 1st boot partition before trying to activate it in the 2nd partition

Reyfox wrote on 4/8/2023, 8:06 AM

Then there is the M$ spying collecting data.... Most don't bother are aren't aware what M$ is doing in the background and what info it's gathering. Watch this .

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LynMil wrote on 4/8/2023, 11:06 AM

I did quite a bit of research and Phoenix LiteOS is one of the more Legit Lite OS creators. But if the problems with the X-Lite I installed were not enough, take a look at their Privacy Policy (especially the PERSISTENT Cookies) before you gripe about M$ spying:

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Rednroll wrote on 4/8/2023, 11:49 AM

Then there is the M$ spying collecting data.... Most don't bother are aren't aware what M$ is doing in the background and what info it's gathering. Watch this .

Exactly! Thankfully there’s apps like CCleaner and others like mentioned in the video you shared to assist in turning these things off more easily.