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liork wrote on 4/13/2017, 11:15 AM

Mine (14) works OK after the update.

Peter_P wrote on 4/13/2017, 11:18 AM

What kind of system are you running? I had manually upgraded (from a downloaded ISO/DVD) to Win10 pro 1703 on one of my test systems with an i7-6700k and had no problems runnig Vegas pro 13.

john_dennis wrote on 4/13/2017, 11:37 AM

[frustrated with the state of computing]

...and the net benefit to video editors from running an operating system newer than Windows 7 are?

[/frustrated with the state of computing]

My main system:
Motherboard: Asus X99-AII
CPU: Intel i7-6850K
GPU: Sapphire Radeon RX480-8GB
RAM: Corsair Dominator (4 x 4 GB) DDR4 2400
Disk O/S & Programs: Intel SSD 750 (400 GB)
Disk Active Projects: 1TB & 2TB WD BLACK SN750 NVMe Internal PCI Express 3.0 x4 Solid State Drives
Disk Other: WD Ultrastar/Hitachi Hard Drives: WDBBUR0080BNC-WRSN, HGST HUH728080ALE600, 724040ALE640, HDS3020BLA642
Case: LIAN LI PC-90 Black Aluminum ATX Full Tower Case
CPU cooling: Corsair Hydro series H115i
Power supply: SeaSonic SS-750KM3 750W 80 PLUS GOLD Certified Full Modular Active PFC Power Supply
Drive Bay: Kingwin KF-256-BK 2.5" and 3.5" Trayless Hot Swap Rack with USB 3
Sound card: Crystal Sound 3 on motherboard. Recording done on another system.
Primary Monitor: Asus ProArt PA248q (24" 1920 x 1200)
O/S: Windows 10 Pro 22H2, Build 19045.2130

Camera: Sony RX10 Model IV

https://www.youtube.com/user/thedennischannel

Paul-Fierlinger wrote on 4/13/2017, 12:15 PM

I am perfectly happy with the way all my Vegas software work in W10 (and all its updates so far). But since the latest Windows updates something annoying HAS happened with this forum. When I click on a Vegas forum email's link in Outlook to connect me with the thread I have subscribed to, this forum will open only in Window's Edge, not directly in Magix's website's tab anymore. Microsoft's Edge from now on cannot be disabled or renamed or hidden (I've researched this). But when I get links from other sources, such as the New York Times, the proper window of the Times opens without the interference of Edge. Is there a setting within Magix's website that I can change to prevent Edge from interfering?

Quitter wrote on 4/13/2017, 12:26 PM

No problems
Win 10 home 1703

Camcorder: Sony CX 520 VE
Hardware:   Acer NG-A717-72G-71YD, Win 10 Home 1903, i7-8750 H, 16GB, GTX 1060 6GB, 250GB SSD, 1TB HDD
NLE:  Sony Vegas Pro 13.0 Build 453
           Vegas Pro 14.0 Build 270

JackW wrote on 4/13/2017, 12:45 PM

Please sir, what is "Microsoft's Edge?" The world of Windows 7 does not seem to have this device.

Paul-Fierlinger wrote on 4/13/2017, 1:08 PM

Edge is Windows 10 proprietary (encroachment) browser which Microsoft tries to trick us into selecting over our more favored ones, such as Google Chrome in my case.

suhaib-siddiqi wrote on 4/13/2017, 1:31 PM

What kind of system are you running? I had manually upgraded (from a downloaded ISO/DVD) to Win10 pro 1703 on one of my test systems with an i7-6700k and had no problems runnig Vegas pro 13.

My system also has i7-6700k, 32GB RAM nVida 960 with 16 BG video RAM, and 1TB SSD, with 4K display. I updated through Windows update. Update was not smooth. It corrupted my boatloader.  I had to fix it to get my system bootable.

suhaib-siddiqi wrote on 4/13/2017, 1:32 PM

Please sir, what is "Microsoft's Edge?" The world of Windows 7 does not seem to have this device.

It is specific to Windows 10.

john_dennis wrote on 4/13/2017, 1:38 PM

Windows 10 Enterprise is conceivably the version that would allow some flexibility.

BUT 

1) It's only sold as a subscription. This isn't unusual in the target audience as most large enterprises have volume licensing agreements.

2) Configuring and maintaining a viable image takes skill and resources that most users and small businesses don't have.

The rest of us are cattle to Microsoft, Google and Apple. They attempt to keep us in the feed lot and throw some hay over the fence to fatten us until they bring in another herd.

If you're in California and you have the price of a beer, I'll tell you what I really think. 

My main system:
Motherboard: Asus X99-AII
CPU: Intel i7-6850K
GPU: Sapphire Radeon RX480-8GB
RAM: Corsair Dominator (4 x 4 GB) DDR4 2400
Disk O/S & Programs: Intel SSD 750 (400 GB)
Disk Active Projects: 1TB & 2TB WD BLACK SN750 NVMe Internal PCI Express 3.0 x4 Solid State Drives
Disk Other: WD Ultrastar/Hitachi Hard Drives: WDBBUR0080BNC-WRSN, HGST HUH728080ALE600, 724040ALE640, HDS3020BLA642
Case: LIAN LI PC-90 Black Aluminum ATX Full Tower Case
CPU cooling: Corsair Hydro series H115i
Power supply: SeaSonic SS-750KM3 750W 80 PLUS GOLD Certified Full Modular Active PFC Power Supply
Drive Bay: Kingwin KF-256-BK 2.5" and 3.5" Trayless Hot Swap Rack with USB 3
Sound card: Crystal Sound 3 on motherboard. Recording done on another system.
Primary Monitor: Asus ProArt PA248q (24" 1920 x 1200)
O/S: Windows 10 Pro 22H2, Build 19045.2130

Camera: Sony RX10 Model IV

https://www.youtube.com/user/thedennischannel

john_dennis wrote on 4/13/2017, 1:39 PM

"It corrupted my boatloader."

You should have gone fishing and left the machine powered off. 

My main system:
Motherboard: Asus X99-AII
CPU: Intel i7-6850K
GPU: Sapphire Radeon RX480-8GB
RAM: Corsair Dominator (4 x 4 GB) DDR4 2400
Disk O/S & Programs: Intel SSD 750 (400 GB)
Disk Active Projects: 1TB & 2TB WD BLACK SN750 NVMe Internal PCI Express 3.0 x4 Solid State Drives
Disk Other: WD Ultrastar/Hitachi Hard Drives: WDBBUR0080BNC-WRSN, HGST HUH728080ALE600, 724040ALE640, HDS3020BLA642
Case: LIAN LI PC-90 Black Aluminum ATX Full Tower Case
CPU cooling: Corsair Hydro series H115i
Power supply: SeaSonic SS-750KM3 750W 80 PLUS GOLD Certified Full Modular Active PFC Power Supply
Drive Bay: Kingwin KF-256-BK 2.5" and 3.5" Trayless Hot Swap Rack with USB 3
Sound card: Crystal Sound 3 on motherboard. Recording done on another system.
Primary Monitor: Asus ProArt PA248q (24" 1920 x 1200)
O/S: Windows 10 Pro 22H2, Build 19045.2130

Camera: Sony RX10 Model IV

https://www.youtube.com/user/thedennischannel

Paul-Fierlinger wrote on 4/13/2017, 1:45 PM

I'm in the process of switching to G-mail exclusively to get away from Outlook. I can open my Vegas links directly when done from Gmail.

suhaib-siddiqi wrote on 4/13/2017, 1:48 PM

"It corrupted my boatloader."

You should have gone fishing and left the machine powered off. 

No, I cannot go fishing in night. :-) It updated OK, and booted machine after update. But, my context Menu was not working, therefore, I restarted, assuming it would work after the reboot. Instead, it would not boot. rebootrec told me there was no system disk, diskpart will not let me mark active partition.... total M$ mess. finally, I had to boot with a Linux bootable CD and manually fix the Windows boatloader.

 

Now to goal is to get Vegas working again, so I can finish some video editing projects.

Cornico wrote on 4/13/2017, 2:00 PM

Untill now no problem here with the latest Windows 10 update.
On this machine all Vegas programs load fast and together, all loading projects fast, some with a few nested projects.

D7K wrote on 4/13/2017, 9:19 PM

No problem with the update here (and I run a "boat load" of software).

Peter_P wrote on 4/14/2017, 12:54 AM
 

Now to goal is to get Vegas working again, so I can finish some video editing projects.

If you don't have a backup to go back to previouly working system, I would download the ISO and restart the 1703 installation again from this media.

suhaib-siddiqi wrote on 4/14/2017, 9:54 AM
 

Now to goal is to get Vegas working again, so I can finish some video editing projects.

If you don't have a backup to go back to previouly working system, I would download the ISO and restart the 1703 installation again from this media.

I am still struggling. I did download ISO yesterday and restarted the 1703 installation again from the media. Ran into same problem, that windows will not boot again. It can boot into only in the Safe Mode, but that would not allow me to fix booting issue. Booting from a Windows 10 install disk will also not let me fix booting issue by using bootrec. Again, I had to fix bootloader manually by booting from a Linux bootable disk. I searched the Internet for hours for possible solutions, no luck. I finally narrow down the Windows 10 not booting after update to Graphics drivers. My computer had an Intel HD 530 and nVidia 980 graphic cards. I uninstalled both video drivers, disabled them through Control panel and reinstalled 1703 from the media.

 

Now Windows boots in the normal mode, but Vegas 13 and 14 still crash on startup. I reinstalled both graphics drivers again, and reboot, still Vegas 13 and 14 crash....

suhaib-siddiqi wrote on 4/14/2017, 10:23 AM

Well, reports of issues with 1703 are piling up at the Microsoft community. M$ is recommending to rollback to the previous build of Windows 10. Unfortunately trying to install 1703 from media over 1703, will rollback in my case to 1703 :-(. http://www.thewindowsclub.com/windows-10-creators-update-problems-issues

 

GJeffrey wrote on 4/14/2017, 4:37 PM

Unfortunately trying to install 1703 from media over 1703, will rollback in my case to 1703

You'd better make a clean install. You lose all your programs but it will work.

This is what I did a week ago when my computer refuse to boot after after restoring. Everything is very smooth now.

JJKizak wrote on 4/14/2017, 6:39 PM

When I had Windows 10 installed it did a lot of peculiar things like lock the computer during downloading updates, suddenly remove something like all of the security tabs, juggle codecs back and forth to Windows apps., not identify some older SATA drives sometimes, lock up the computer video when trying to use Vegas 12 and 14 for a minute or more then having to reboot to restore it, screw up the permissions so that you could not access most files, and screw up the tiles so that they were permanently gone. Went back to Windows 7 Pro (formatted C drive) and everything just fine.

JJK

suhaib-siddiqi wrote on 4/15/2017, 8:41 AM

Well, FINALLY!!!! After spending 2 days, I fixed it. However, my personal suggestion is to stay away from Windows 10 Creative update. Particularly, if you are not comfortable to manually edit Windows Registry and troubleshoot the issue, I would suggest to skip the Windows 10 Creative Update 1703 and wait till bugs are fixed!!!

Windows 10 Creative does strange things. I updated 3 computers with Windows 10 1073. All three had different results.

1) One update went smooth. This was the oldest (8 years old i3 chipset desktop with only Intel HD300 graphic chipset)

2) Sony with Intel i7 (3 years old) did not boot in normal. I had to boot in safe mode and uninstall video drivers. Then boot into normal mode and reinstall video drivers. Thereafter manually update all the drivers to the latest versions.

3) Acer V17 Nitro with i7 (Skylake) with 32 GB RAM and 16 GB Video RAM nVidia 960, 1TB SSD, gave heck of a problem (This is the one which had Vegas Pro 14 and 13 installed.

The Vegas crash message dialogue boxes are not informative. It was Davinci Resolve 12.5, which gave me hints what to fix. Finally having enough of not being able to fix Vegas startup crash, I decided to finish some video editing projects in Davinci Resolve 12.5. It will not start either, but crash dialog box had a message that Visual C++ 2010 redistributable (x86 & x64) were missing. I checked Windows Control Panel and per Control Panel it was installed. I tried to uninstall it but Windows would not uninstall nor Repair it. I had to use Revo Uninstaller and force uninstall it, then in RegEdit under WOW64Node\VisualStudio delete VC++ v10 entries. Reboot and reinstall the Visual C++ 2010 redistributable x86 & x64. Then uninstall Vegas 13 and 14 and reinstall both.

Now, everything works perfect!!! Phew M$ ME$$ of update!!!!

suhaib-siddiqi wrote on 4/15/2017, 9:19 AM

When I had Windows 10 installed it did a lot of peculiar things like lock the computer during downloading updates, suddenly remove something like all of the security tabs, juggle codecs back and forth to Windows apps., not identify some older SATA drives sometimes, lock up the computer video when trying to use Vegas 12 and 14 for a minute or more then having to reboot to restore it, screw up the permissions so that you could not access most files, and screw up the tiles so that they were permanently gone. Went back to Windows 7 Pro (formatted C drive) and everything just fine.

JJK

Free Utility Tweaking Windows Repair from tweaking.com comes very handy for fixing permissions, and leftover registry keys which are not deleted after Windows update. Every update has some registry keys for .exe and .dll which are renamed in the new updates but Windows often leave older registry keys and delete those exe and dlls. After reboot, your Windows look for it, which causes hang ups and strange behavior. Tweaking.com Windows Repair and Auto Run from Tweaking.com comes handy. Run Auto Run and look for the yellow entries which have file(s) missing after them. Delete them and reboot. (Warning do these on your won risk, if you are not comfortable with unexpected results.)

john_dennis wrote on 4/15/2017, 10:01 AM

Do you make and keep system images on a timely basis? I've gotten too old to shoot system bugs every time someone at Microsoft or elsewhere causes problems. I just revert to a known state from a saved image and find some other way to waste my time.

My main system:
Motherboard: Asus X99-AII
CPU: Intel i7-6850K
GPU: Sapphire Radeon RX480-8GB
RAM: Corsair Dominator (4 x 4 GB) DDR4 2400
Disk O/S & Programs: Intel SSD 750 (400 GB)
Disk Active Projects: 1TB & 2TB WD BLACK SN750 NVMe Internal PCI Express 3.0 x4 Solid State Drives
Disk Other: WD Ultrastar/Hitachi Hard Drives: WDBBUR0080BNC-WRSN, HGST HUH728080ALE600, 724040ALE640, HDS3020BLA642
Case: LIAN LI PC-90 Black Aluminum ATX Full Tower Case
CPU cooling: Corsair Hydro series H115i
Power supply: SeaSonic SS-750KM3 750W 80 PLUS GOLD Certified Full Modular Active PFC Power Supply
Drive Bay: Kingwin KF-256-BK 2.5" and 3.5" Trayless Hot Swap Rack with USB 3
Sound card: Crystal Sound 3 on motherboard. Recording done on another system.
Primary Monitor: Asus ProArt PA248q (24" 1920 x 1200)
O/S: Windows 10 Pro 22H2, Build 19045.2130

Camera: Sony RX10 Model IV

https://www.youtube.com/user/thedennischannel

suhaib-siddiqi wrote on 4/15/2017, 10:12 AM

I am also too old, and lazy therefore, no I do not regularly create system images. I do, however, have setup auto create System Restore on a weekly basis. So far, I had never run into a situation, except once, where I was unable to fix the issue, and had to format the disk, be a hardware, software or the OS (windows and Linux, both). That is speaking of using the computers since 1987, when it was ole DOS world --> Win 3.x -->Win 95 --> present M$...