Strange, do you have both options (NVENC & QSV ) in the render templates?

Strange, do you have both options (NVENC & QSV ) in the render templates?

Yes, the result of NVENC is slower than QSV, I'm sure that the Nvidia GPU works when using NVENC, but not sure is it normal to use "copy back" instead of "3D" engine.

Strange, do you have both options (NVENC & QSV ) in the render templates?

Why not? If it is a Workstation with both Quick Sync and if there is an nvidia Card in the System both should be available.

Strange, do you have both options (NVENC & QSV ) in the render templates?

Yes, the result of NVENC is slower than QSV,

That's why I prefer to use the Intel GPU 😀

There are also other indications in that direction ....

May be it is different with other NVIDIA cards.

Strange, do you have both options (NVENC & QSV ) in the render templates?

Why not? If it is a Workstation with both Quick Sync and if there is an nvidia Card in the System both should be available.

The strange thing is that QSV is getting used for render when NVENC is selected as the encode mode.

My experience is the reversed, the Magix nvec render is a bit faster than the magix intel render. I use the video HW acc setting (in the preference tab) to match it with the render setting. the Nvidea render is probably faster since my videocard gtx titan x (maxwell) is more recent than my intel i7 4790k

It could also be because my test project has a lot of newblue plugins and newblue text standalone, and I always got the impression/gut feeling that newblue plugins are (and were) very well supported by nvidea HW.

I get the feeling that people are focusing a lot on the Vegas performance with regard to AMD vs Nvidea discussion, but correct me if I am wrong, but the plugins in your project may also have their own HW preferences to render out in their engine (as some can even be used as stand alone).

I test a clip video with GTX970 43s and with GTX1080 39s, two test with MAGIX NVEC render.

The same render in Vegas 14 2m 12s. It is also true, the visualization is faster in Vegas 14 than in Vegas 15.
This should improve.

My experience is the reversed, the Magix nvec render is a bit faster than the magix intel render. I use the video HW acc setting (in the preference tab) to match it with the render setting. the Nvidea render is probably faster since my videocard gtx titan x (maxwell) is more recent than my intel i7 4790k

That's not surprising with a 4790k CPU. The newer, that also provide support for HEVC encoding are much stronger.

Can anybody tell me why my gtx 1070 needs 36 min to render 4:30 min video and audio with some fx. I am exporting AVC 720p mp4 with nvenc?

Did you disable so4compoundplug.dll ?

I tried, same results. Is it because of effects and timestrech?

May be, but a 7,5 * realtime render on AVC 720p is really very high. What CPU are you using?

It's high but "… with some fx" can quickly let render times explode.

May be, but a 7,5 * realtime render on AVC 720p is really very high. What CPU are you using?

It's high but "… with some fx" can quickly let render times explode.

It's Intel i3 2100, when I try to render 6:30 min video without effects or timestrech it renders for 3 min

Just shot some h.265 1080p @60fp with my Phantom 4 Pro. Vastly improved playback and improved rendering. Flying on a i7 4790 24/gig ram with R9 200. If they enhance rendering on the Radeon anytime soon I'll be shooting everything in h.265 and rendering to h.264. It looks great. sharp as a tack, smooth as silk with good coloration.

-- tom

I test a clip video with GTX970 43s and with GTX1080 39s, two test with MAGIX NVEC render.

The same render in Vegas 14 2m 12s. It is also true, the visualization is faster in Vegas 14 than in Vegas 15.
This should improve.

 

What driver version are you using with GTX 970? My computer uses the CPU 100% most of the time.

Just another piece of info on render speeds in VP15. I've been doing similar material recently, SD 720 x 576 to .mp4, from mpeg2.

It was typically taking about 90/95% of clip time length to render.

I'm finding thats come down to around 60/66% render time, nice improvement. Thats using the new Magix MC encoder without QSV or Nvenc render enabled. The gtx 1080 is enabled for HW acceleration as previously. Same settings and data rate set in render template as was with older MC encoder.

So maybe either the HW Acceleration using OpenCL is improved or the new encoder is improved for speed, probably the former.

I bought at GTX 1080Ti to test with VP15 and the NVENC and I must say I am not impressed. The red car project in it's original form, not upscaled to 4K, rendered with NVENC in 27sec using the MAGIX AVC 1080 NVENC template. That is the exact time as my old GTX 580 and the old MC AVC encoder with CUDA. Considering that the GTX 1080 Ti has a much higher spec and NVENC, I am rather disappointed. I don't mean that MAGIX has done a poor job but rather that NVIDIA has. But, maybe that is all just related to my system. Needless to say, the GTX 1080Ti is going back. Let's see how the implementation with AMD's VCE goes if it ever comes.

Nvidia claims the 10 series has 2x the NVENC speed if I remember right. I wonder if it is on Vegas' end? If not, that is disappointing. I do remember another user here stating something similar about not having any gains with the 10 series cards in VP15.

Oldsmoke, some results from the Red Car test without mods.

Red car test ...

i7-4790K + GTX 580 + 16gb ram.

MC ... 1:40s

i7-4790K + GTX 1080 + 16gb ram.

MC ... 2:15s 

i7-4790K + GTX 1080 + 16gb ram.

Magix MC Nvenc ... 0:27s

So, systems vary I guess but I saw a substantial improvement over my existing system with the GTX 1080 and also the previously used GTX 580.

Oldsmoke, some results from the Red Car test without mods.

Red car test ...

i7-4790K + GTX 580 + 16gb ram.

MC ... 1:40s

i7-4790K + GTX 1080 + 16gb ram.

MC ... 2:15s 

i7-4790K + GTX 1080 + 16gb ram.

Magix MC Nvenc ... 0:27s

So, systems vary I guess but I saw a substantial improvement over my existing system with the GTX 1080 and also the previously used GTX 580.

 

Did you use CUDA with the MC AVC encoder and the GTX580?

Your 27sec for NVENC are spot on, I am surprised the GTX580 isn't.

At this remove, it was a while ago, I'm pretty sure I did ...

I've extracting the above subset of results from these following notes I kept around the time I did the testing ...

Red Car test ...

i7-4790K + GTX 580 + 16gb ram.

XDCam 0:33

MC 1:40

Laptop ...

XDCam 3:07

MC 2:57

Redid Red Car test on PC, previously forgot to include GPU on (off) values as other posters have.

GPU on (off in brackets)

i7-4790K + GTX 1080 + 16gb ram.

The fps was at max 29.97, preview setting was at best-full.

XDCAM .. 0:31s (2:58s)

MC         .. 2:15s (3:11s) [1:31 28-March-2017, cpu OC'D + mem boost.]