Benchmarking

Former user wrote on 7/16/2019, 2:27 PM

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Magix Sample Project 4K link ...

https://www.dropbox.com/sh/qoaym1jgpgo8l05/AABec7Jhg_c3jTDJZNxDXB1Wa?dl=0

A user data input file, spreadsheet, render templates for FHD and UHD, etc are also at this location.

Templates and User data input with examples ...

The above are Magix Avc h264 templates, for Hevc use them also, same data rates etc, just change the “Render As” to Magix Hevc.

The spreadsheet and the spreadsheet screen captures below are updated in the download link location as new results come in. If i’m away from my PC it might be a while.

Spreadsheet screen captures ...

[1] Sorted on user name and [2] Sorted on render times

[3] Sorted on render times (FHD) [4] Sorted on render times (UHD)

[5] Sorted on Average FPS

The [n] items are there simply to easily reference a particular screen capture in discussions.

There's a single region marked out on the project, region 1. Please use it to check the Min. and Max. fps playback rates, and so get the average. This was added later, so if you have previously downloaded the zip, no need to do again, I've uploaded the project file as a single separate download. The same updated .veg is also in the zip. If possible give your playback rates in the form min-max e.g. 7-14. If you have say full playback, 25fps I'll enter it as 25-25, with a view to assist in sorting on the FPS column, not possible at the moment.

The following may be of little interest but I'll include it anyway.

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Former user wrote on 8/2/2019, 3:03 AM

Your top result for render time isn't accurate, as they listed 91 seconds instead of 1 minute 31 seconds, and it messed up the sorting putting them ahead of render times that were actually faster.

@fr0sty - Oo-er! Well spotted Sir! Keeping it FROSTY.

@Grazie Well spotted? well maybe you can point out what I don’t see? I can find no 1:31s entry and no discrepancies. I assumed from the quote and your response that you do know and could point it out to me, thanks.

I sent you a Private Message.

Grazie wrote on 8/2/2019, 3:05 AM

@Former user No? O...k.... 91secs = 1min 31sec is before a 1 min something.

Former user wrote on 8/2/2019, 3:08 AM

@Grazie Thank you Grazie, well done. I’ll adjust and correct later. I'm getting too old for this😩

Grazie wrote on 8/2/2019, 3:22 AM

@Grazie Thank you Grazie, well done.

I can’t take any credit for it, it was the FrostyMan! ☃

Former user wrote on 8/2/2019, 3:25 AM

@Grazie All updated now.

petecarney wrote on 8/2/2019, 12:00 PM

@Former user that would be great.

Former user wrote on 8/2/2019, 12:27 PM

@petecarney Aok Peter, away from PC at the moment, I'll update later and notify.

Former user wrote on 8/2/2019, 2:08 PM

@petecarney Is now updated Peter.

Former user wrote on 8/4/2019, 5:58 AM

I've noticed that when testing the spreadsheet on different PC's with older versions of Excel, 2000, 2003 and 2010 that my “sort buttons” throw an error and don’t sort. No problem on machines that have Excel 2016, 2019. Obviously the “normal” Excel built in sorting is available but just not as convenient as the buttons. There's no problem with my “filter buttons”.

I'm no VB expert, so If any users know of a fix then do tell. The ss is saved in compatibility mode of 1997-2003, using Excel 2016, so a bit of a mystery.

In the meantime I’ll upload the spreadsheet(s) pre sorted on “render times”, “User Name” and “FPS” instead of user name only, to catch the situation where some may have an issue in using the sort buttons.

fr0sty wrote on 8/4/2019, 10:03 AM

Wouldn't it be easier to put it up on google sheets where we all can view the results without you needing to export image snapshots of it?

Former user wrote on 8/4/2019, 11:06 AM

I'm ok with the the way I'm doing it. I like Excel, am comfortable with it and sure, it’s a little bit of work doing the screenshots etc but I don’t mind. I really enjoy touching up Excel in a presentable way that then also becomes viewable in the screenshots as well. Why learn another ss program, I'm basically lazy, and also not sure that I would achieve a similar presentation in google sheets.

The screenshots are available to everyone and accessible to every viewer who may not be bothered to use a ss, Excel or Google sheets.

The Excel ss's are available to anyone that wants to use them and convert to anything they wish.

Former user wrote on 8/6/2019, 12:35 PM

Did a render test to FHD on my PC and Laptop using VP16 and VP17.

VP16 is 0:44s VP17 is 0:48s. … VP 16 was previously 0:44s

VP16 is 1:11s VP17 is 1:11s. … VP 16 was previously 1:15s

I see little point in updating the ss, playback was similar with VP17.

Howard-Vigorita wrote on 8/6/2019, 1:12 PM

Wouldn't it be easier to put it up on google sheets where we all can view the results without you needing to export image snapshots of it?

@fr0sty I was thinking the same thing myself till I tried it... could not figure out a way to let a read-only user click on sort or filter buttons. Which is odd since it's so easy to do that in html. Which I did last night just for the heck of it. Only downside is google returns the wrong mime-type if you park it on a google drive. So I tossed my own timings on my own web server here: http://www.rtpress.com/roundup.htm

rstrong wrote on 8/8/2019, 10:02 PM

Hi Guys, what is iGPU ?

thanks, robert

adis-a3097 wrote on 8/8/2019, 11:37 PM

Hi Guys, what is iGPU ?

thanks, robert

Um, acronym: integrated graphics processing unit.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Graphics_processing_unit#Integrated_graphics_processing_unit

Former user wrote on 8/9/2019, 2:55 AM

@rstrong If you’re not sure of it I can normally find it from the CPU. Just supply all of the other items listed if you care to contribute, thanks.

rstrong wrote on 8/10/2019, 12:40 AM

How, where, do you find the fps readings?

thanks, robert

Former user wrote on 8/10/2019, 3:33 AM

@rstrong Hi Robert, there’s a region 1 in the project, just eyeball the FPS playback rate at the bottom of the preview window, judge as best you can the min and max values you see within this region, drag a loop over if necessary. See the screen grab, my first post in this thread for the correct procedure, the fps doesn’t show as its static in the screen grab.

rstrong wrote on 8/10/2019, 10:49 AM

Hi JN.......oh, I do see the fps during playback......I thought you guys were logging a fps during rendering.

adis-a3097 wrote on 8/10/2019, 11:08 AM

Hi JN.......oh, I do see the fps during playback......I thought you guys were logging a fps during rendering.

Instal this:

https://www.semw-software.com/en/extensions/

then you'll see this at render:

Former user wrote on 8/10/2019, 11:29 AM

@rstrong Its a purely playback fps measurement for region 1 only.

Former user wrote on 8/10/2019, 12:33 PM

@adis-a3097 I think it only gives fps while rendering? What’s needed is a purely fps average while just playing, thanks anyway.

Sylk wrote on 9/25/2019, 3:21 PM

How to "measure" fps?

fr0sty wrote on 9/25/2019, 3:57 PM

We have to kinda do it by eye, now... noting the lowest and highest fps you see during a given sequence. I've written the developers and asked if they can implement an average fps counter for playback that we can enable for benchmarking. They have a lot on their plate, so I'm not going to hold my breath on it coming any time soon, but at least they are aware of the need.

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