Help needed choosing new GPU

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wjauch wrote on 12/13/2021, 2:09 PM

With the crazy markups on GPUs, it often makes sense to buy a prebuilt new PC, almost the only way to get a GPU at cost or close to it. On Reddit forum buildapcsales there is often discussion re this. It may be possible to take the GPU from the new PC and put it into your old one if that makes sense. If you get really lucky, a PC comes up with an AMD CPU with built in graphics AND a separate GPU, in that case you can remove and use the GPU, and sell the new PC as a functioning PC using the AMD CPU graphics.

Adi-W wrote on 12/17/2021, 10:23 AM
@TheRhino

I only paid $200 for the VEGA 56, so if I resell it for $700, that takes $500 off the cost of the 6800 XT making my net cost about $800. Using Best Buy's 0% interest for 18 months credit card & generous holiday return policy gives me time to think about it before actually spending a dime...

I just sold my VEGA VII (which I paid $ 900 two years ago) for $1500 CAN ! Now I'm looking for the 6800 xt, but they're all around $2000, it's just crazy. I wonder if there is any chance that the prices will drop substantially in January? And I need to upgrade all my system...

walter-i. wrote on 12/17/2021, 2:37 PM

I wonder if there is any chance that the prices will drop substantially in January? And I need to upgrade all my system...

Then take a look at the post right before yours......

Rich Parry wrote on 12/18/2021, 10:12 PM

@TheRhino Been enjoying the 6900xt myself. I really wanted an Asus 6800xt LC but found a Sapphire LC for less... my sense is they're about equal for video editing. But had to upgrade my case to full tower to fit the 360 radiator. Which allows oc'ing the gpu to boost performance on larger projects. Have a single space aio on the 11900k so I can't oc that much but happy getting stock 5.3ghz out of it. Not able to maintain more than 4.8ghz air cooling my 9900k. There's so much room in the new Define XL-7 case, I can now also fit another triple-fan aio cooler for the cpu... maybe next year.

Howard V.

Sorry, this is off topic, but thought I'd ask how you like the Define XL-7 case from a "quiet" standpoint. I am familiar with its large size, my current PC case is virtually the same size. My main interest is "noise". You using air or liquid cooling?

Thanks in advance,

Rich

CPU Intel i9-13900K Raptor Lake

Heat Sink Noctua  NH-D15 chromas, Black

MB ASUS ProArt Z790 Creator WiFi

OS Drive Samsung 990 PRO  NVME M.2 SSD 1TB

Data Drive Samsung 870 EVO SATA 4TB

Backup Drive Samsung 870 EVO SATA 4TB

RAM Corsair Vengeance DDR5 64GB

GPU ASUS NVDIA GeForce GTX 1080 Ti

Case Fractal Torrent Black E-ATX

PSU Corsair HX1000i 80 Plus Platinum

OS MicroSoft Windows 11 Pro

Rich in San Diego, CA

Former user wrote on 12/18/2021, 10:36 PM

@Rich Parry I've got that case, 3 case mounted fans & liquid cooled with 3 inbuilt fans, it's quite enough to have sat next to me on the desk but i think that is more down to the quality of the fans as the case is just a case.

Bit dustier than i realised in there 😂

Howard-Vigorita wrote on 12/19/2021, 9:00 AM

There's so much room in the new Define XL-7 case, I can now also fit another triple-fan aio cooler for the cpu... maybe next year.

Howard V.

Sorry, this is off topic, but thought I'd ask how you like the Define XL-7 case from a "quiet" standpoint. I am familiar with its large size, my current PC case is virtually the same size. My main interest is "noise". You using air or liquid cooling?

Thanks in advance,

Rich

@Rich Parry The Fractal Design cases are built like a tank and really quiet, especially if you get it with the steel side cover instead of glass and do not vent the top panel. I did vent the top panel of mine to mount an overhead gpu radiator which is still dead quiet unless I kick the pump to an extreme cooling profile which I sometimes do when rendering. Also pays to put a quiet ps in it. Really happy with the Corsair RM1000x.

TheRhino wrote on 2/1/2022, 11:19 PM

I installed my (overpriced IMO) $1300 AMD 6800 XT today in my non-overclocked 11700K system, benchmarked it, and have mixed feelings...

IMO $1300 is a lot for a GPU considering my 9900K, VEGA 64 LQ, motherboard, DDR4 & Liquid Cooler upgrade only cost $1350 and my 11700K, VEGA 56, motherboard & DDR4 upgrade only cost $850...

I returned my 6800 XT... I decided that $1300 was too much to pay for a GPU that only provides a 15% increase in render speeds, blocks my adjacent PCIe slot, and runs hotter & louder than my thin, liquid-cooled VEGA 64 LQ... When prices settle, especially for liquid-cooled options, I'll reconsider but for now I am happy with my VEGAs...

Workstation C with $600 USD of upgrades in April, 2021
--$360 11700K @ 5.0ghz
--$200 ASRock W480 Creator (onboard 10G net, TB3, etc.)
Borrowed from my 9900K until prices drop:
--32GB of G.Skill DDR4 3200 ($100 on Black Friday...)
Reused from same Tower Case that housed the Xeon:
--Used VEGA 56 GPU ($200 on eBay before mining craze...)
--Noctua Cooler, 750W PSU, OS SSD, LSI RAID Controller, SATAs, etc.

Performs VERY close to my overclocked 9900K (below), but at stock settings with no tweaking...

Workstation D with $1,350 USD of upgrades in April, 2019
--$500 9900K @ 5.0ghz
--$140 Corsair H150i liquid cooling with 360mm radiator (3 fans)
--$200 open box Asus Z390 WS (PLX chip manages 4/5 PCIe slots)
--$160 32GB of G.Skill DDR4 3000 (added another 32GB later...)
--$350 refurbished, but like-new Radeon Vega 64 LQ (liquid cooled)

Renders Vegas11 "Red Car Test" (AMD VCE) in 13s when clocked at 4.9 ghz
(note: BOTH onboard Intel & Vega64 show utilization during QSV & VCE renders...)

Source Video1 = 4TB RAID0--(2) 2TB M.2 on motherboard in RAID0
Source Video2 = 4TB RAID0--(2) 2TB M.2 (1) via U.2 adapter & (1) on separate PCIe card
Target Video1 = 32TB RAID0--(4) 8TB SATA hot-swap drives on PCIe RAID card with backups elsewhere

10G Network using used $30 Mellanox2 Adapters & Qnap QSW-M408-2C 10G Switch
Copy of Work Files, Source & Output Video, OS Images on QNAP 653b NAS with (6) 14TB WD RED
Blackmagic Decklink PCie card for capturing from tape, etc.
(2) internal BR Burners connected via USB 3.0 to SATA adapters
Old Cooler Master CM Stacker ATX case with (13) 5.25" front drive-bays holds & cools everything.

Workstations A & B are the 2 remaining 6-core 4.0ghz Xeon 5660 or I7 980x on Asus P6T6 motherboards.

$999 Walmart Evoo 17 Laptop with I7-9750H 6-core CPU, RTX 2060, (2) M.2 bays & (1) SSD bay...

Paul-Jonack wrote on 4/17/2022, 1:06 AM

Hello, I just got my RTX3060 12GB new for a good Price now. I Upgraded the Card for my Vegas Pro 17 and installed the Latest Studio divers. But it seems my Playback ist getting any better not rendering. Playback works fine for like 5 seconds and then I get 1 fps. I have Set preview RAM t 0 since I have 32GB of RAM and a fast SSD and a good Ryzen 7. I had before a RX 470 gpu with 8GB which works okay for me. The rtx 3060 works not faster -. - can anyone relate to this?

Greetings from Berlin

RogerS wrote on 4/17/2022, 8:27 PM

@Paul-Jonack Try deleting all AMD drivers with a tool like this. Then do a reset of Vegas to make sure it finds the new GPU. Set dynamic ram preview back to the default of 200MB.

Paul-Jonack wrote on 4/18/2022, 5:36 PM

So thank you very much for this Tip. I tested a Projekt now. My Old AMD RX470 can render this Projekt in 1 Minute and 17 seconds. Then i changed the GPU and the rtx need 3:32 for the same projekt -.-

i deleted now all old drivers and tested again with same results.

Now i restarted vegas with reset. And the same projekt needs even longer. 3:43

My RTX 3060 GPU is on 40 to 55% of usage....but my RX470 was on 100% and much faster.

oddly is my 2 games are running perfect with the rtx 3060....way faster as with the rx470.

 

This is so BS -.- i think i will return the rtx 3060