This update was working fine for a bit for me then back to crashing again when I'm masking my video. Just doesn't crash as often now. I lose a few frame of video masking when it crashes so I'm saving after every frame. Wish there was a setting to change how often program auto saved.

...Wish there was a setting to change how often program auto saved.

@Trustman There is. Hold down SHIFT while clicking Options > Preferences. Click the Internal tab. Search msAutoSaveInterval. Mine is set to 60,000 (1 minute). Default is 300,000 (5 minutes).

@Nick:

.......the Internal tab. Search msAutoSaveInterval. Mine is set to 60,000 (1 minute). Default is 300,000 (5 minutes).

Now, Nick, this is MOST interesting!

Nick, I have Edward Troxel’s AUTO SAVE. This great utility does several things and WILL save according to my wishes: Time interval; folders; dormancy.... etc . My question is this, can you imagine a clash of “saving” IF whilst one, ET’s is saving and the VP auto starts to save? I’ve been getting “White Outs” hangs during Exiting. Could this be a symptom of such a clash? A type of Game: “The Clash of Saves”. But seriously, having this hidden in Internal Settings implies it isn’t available to us mere mortals. I’d suggest to Derek and Eric should make this as Preference, UNLESS there is a wise reason NOT to.

BTW, Nick, when I type @ in a reply I make, I can get a list of all those participating in the thread, except yours? Why? Is this a feature available for you too?

BTW, Nick, when I type @ in a reply I make, I can get a list of all those participating in the thread, except yours? Why? Is this a feature available for you too?

@Grazie I only see 4 or 5 in the list if I type @. There are a lot more than 5 participants in this thread. It seems to me that the popup lists the thread starter and the last few commenters, so I don't know why you're not seeing me.

If you ever want to tag me, type @Hope and then choose me from the list. There are too many "Nick"s for @Nick to work, and as soon as you type a space, the tagging thingy stops working.

@NickHope: You can never have “too many” Nicks, ... Nick.

Any thoughts on my “Clash of Saves”? Or liberating that Internal option into the main Preferences?

@Grazie I would favour making that preference non-internal but perhaps with upper and lower limits. Regarding a clash, presumably Vegas internally "queues up" such operations so that there isn't. A white-out during exiting could be because of all sorts of things.

@Grazie I would favour making that preference non-internal but perhaps with upper and lower limits.

I like that, though why the limits?

Regarding a clash, presumably Vegas internally "queues up" such operations so that there isn't.

Yeah, well, there’s much in that presumptive clause I’d like Eric&Derek to respond to.

A white-out during exiting could be because of all sorts of things.

For sure. We’re all used to moving Inverebrate Targets with Vegas 😉. And again, I’d like to be able to acquire some form of Crash Dummy utility that could spell it out for the Masters of Madison or the Berlin KB Bashers.

I have a veritable smorgasbord of WhiteOut Crash Reports upwards of 30 thus far that I’ve sent off to the Engineers. They can’t find a reason why this happens. Maybe the queuing-up AGAINST Edward’s Saves is constipating the save on EXIT?

We need input from the specialists here.

I like that, though why the limits?

To prevent silly numbers, like saving every 10 seconds or 10 days.

To prevent silly numbers, like saving every 10 seconds or 10 days.

How about save on change/s?

Please return the closing button on the old place (upper left corner of the window instead of in the tab).

Now it is very un-functional. Very often when switching tabs by accident, I close the window (eg VideoFX, ProjectMedia, Explorer).

In the video preview window, the tab is not needed if we only have one window. At this moment, the area of the preview window is reduced, only by the presence of the tab. This makes the preview window smaller.

Can you bring it back to the version it was in Vegas Pro 14?

If not, give VP16 a choice so that the user can decide what interface he wants to use.

Please...

Please return the closing button on the old place (upper left corner of the window instead of in the tab).

Now it is very un-functional. Very often when switching tabs by accident, I close the window (eg VideoFX, ProjectMedia, Explorer).

I cannot agree more. I hate these close buttons on tabs as I always closing tabs when I'm trying to switch to it.

To prevent silly numbers, like saving every 10 seconds or 10 days.

How about save on change/s?

That could be a lot of saves! Might disrupt the flow a bit if it's a big/complex project that takes some time to save.

In the video preview window, the tab is not needed if we only have one window. At this moment, the area of the preview window is reduced, only by the presence of the tab. This makes the preview window smaller.

This is one of the 2 things I dislike most about VP15 compared to earlier versions (the other being the Render dialog design). In previous GUI designs, if there was only 1 window in a group, the tab would automatically disappear. That was a pretty neat bit of design that has now been lost. The space wasted by that lone tab is quite significant, especially where space is limited, like on a laptop, and especially if you like to have a lot of individual docked windows.

The space wasted by that lone tab is quite significant, especially where space is limited, like on a laptop, and especially if you like to have a lot of individual docked windows.

Indeed, and not only for a laptop, also for a ultra wide monitor whereby horizontal space is plenty, but vertical space is scarce.

In that respect (for ultra wide monitors) I would like that the developers would make it possible to adjust the (horizontal) width of the timelines so any other window can take up some extra vertical space.

So, I was working on a new project. Using just basic MP4 H264 files and GH5 footage (same as I mentioned earlier so many times) ... I have got "VEGAS STOPS WORKING" and gray-inactive-screen every like 2 minutes. That was painful experience. Is there any new patch upcoming? There needs to be something new coming, right? As I mentioned two weeks ago, Magix should really bring more frequent patching for the issues, or everyone will leave this software.

I really feel that most of the time I am wasting my time at work just because of the software and not my skills, which is painful especially because outside is so nice weather where I am now ... daaaamn.

@Fiola, just curious as to the bitrate of your MP4 files. I am guessing that you are working at 4K or.. lower resolution. The reason for me asking is that I did a 4K short video with the files from my Panasonic G7 and FZ300 and had not problems. The transitions were simple cross dissolves, but there was some stabilization and straightening of a couple of clips. I did work with proxies. No crashes and exported just fine as H265.

I do agree with you about issues with the software not being fixed fast enough. Especially for a "pro" software. There are other options out there, one is really great and is free. "IF" I purchase their camera that fits in a pocket, I'll give the software a twirl. But I have to be honest, I am surprised how fast I can work with Vegas, a software I never had on my radar because the interface is was butt ugly.... Now... if they can get VP and VMS to play nice together...

I stated this many times... it's 4K GH5 Long-GOP files - which I understand is harder to decode. But my machine is capable to do it without any problem let's say in DaVinci Resolve and Premiere... but not in Vegas. The proxies would be fine... except, they are without alpha channel... so... for my case (i.e. transparent motion graphics added in layers) it just don't work.

But I have to be honest, I am surprised how fast I can work with Vegas, a software I never had on my radar because the interface is was butt ugly.... Now... if they can get VP and VMS to play nice together...

That's the only reason I am still with VEGAS ... there is no other software, where you can cut your footage and produce it in high quality in such a fast pace... I really like Vegas in theory, but in practice - the fast workflow is, at least in my case, interrupted by constant crashing :( ...

@Fiola, sorry for not knowing the file format. Lots for me to read since I am basically new with the software. With the GH5/5s being a popular camera, yeah... Vegas should handle your files. I feel your pain when things just go "crash". I've been there with other software where I spent more time rebooting, constantly saving, etc. to keep the crashes a minimum only leading to me being totally frustrated with the software.

@Reyfox I am sorry, I didn't mean it offensive previously :). I understand you can't know how long we are trying to explain this problem to Magix here. Of course, I learn to just constantly smashing CTRL+S every time I am moving something on timeline or edit something. But the thing is ... I don't feel like paying for new version of VEGAS if this will be constant problem. I was paying for VEGAS since 2012 ... and after what MAGIX bought the Vegas from SONY I was really happy that someone will adress these issues.

I have got a glimpse of hope lately, since MAGIX tried to address some of the issues and actually they got fixed a few of them. But after this 321 update - ... nothing. I thought it was just small first step towards faster iterations of the software ... but roadmap for this can't to be found yet. I really wish Magix would tell us more constant timeframes If they are working on the updates or not.

I would pay them again for making it better and fix their software. I would also provide some reports from crashing, but I am sending TONS of them. If this means I should move my license to VEGAS 365 to give them chance of more constant flow of money - I will do it... but I can't be alone... and I can't see anything right now what would even indicate I should do that in the first place.

@Fiola, no offense taken!! Trust me, I've been there with other software where the rant was at the tips of my touch typing fingers! If a software works for me and does all that I want and more, I too don't mind paying for that "piece of mind" knowing I can finish what I start with a minimum of fuss, and where I am the limiting factor, not the software.

I had RAM issues with VP15 using more than VP14 for basically the same project, making me consider adding more RAM if and when prices drop. Again, I was blown away with the speed in editing on the timeline, with VP14 Edit, that I bought the upgrade to VP15 Suite. I hope they find a solution for you. The GH5 is a camera I am considering in the future.

@Fiola FWIW: I have had incredible many crashes in V15 build 321 (in fact since V14 build 211) and tried to find out what of my media made Vegas crash. The result was that my Vegas would crash even without any project or media loaded.

Kindly helped by Nick Hope and OldSmoke I found the reason to be the version of my AMD driver as you can read in this thread:

https://www.vegascreativesoftware.info/us/forum/vegas-pro-15-has-stopped-working-constant-crashing--111034/?page=1

IF your issue seems to be similar try to start an empty instance of Vegas and leave it running untouched while you edit and work with other instances - just to see if the empty one also crashes all by itself?

@ritsmer Thank you for the tip! Unfortunately this is not my case. I have Intel i9s and GTX 1080Ti setup here. And VEGAS alone is stable before I start editing. My problem is always during playback. For example, I will play preview, stop it, go back little bit, press spacebar to preview the chunk again aaaaand CRASH! :) So it's similar, but another problem.

I am on newest BIOS, Windows & NVIDIA drivers though. :)